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edgeprod 10-10-2013 07:01 PM

Fellow homemade roast-beef makers?
 
Tonight's creation came out awesome, but I'm getting tired of using the same spices. I'm afraid to use an entire roast on trying out something new -- what do you guys use for spices? I want to try something that someone's tested before, haha. :thumbsup

This is getting sliced up thin and put on sandwiches, nom nom nom.

http://i.imgur.com/TN13ysP.jpg

facialfreak 10-10-2013 07:35 PM

2 tablespoons paprika
2 tablespoons crushed black pepper
2 tablespoon coarse ground coffee
2 tablespoons kosher salt
1 tablespoon granulated garlic
1 tablespoon granulated onion
1 tablespoon crushed coriander
1 tablespoon dill
1 tablespoon crushed red pepper flakes

Use this as a dry rub at least 24 hours before cooking .... 30 minutes every 2 pounds at 350'F -- or until internal temp of 140'F is reached.

thumbuilderic 10-10-2013 07:37 PM

I usually go for the Chicago steak seasoning!

L-Pink 10-10-2013 07:39 PM

Damn that looks good …….

RebelR 10-10-2013 07:40 PM

I use a mixture of salt, pepper, onion powder, garlic powder, a bit of paprika, thyme, and coffee grounds (that I put in a spice grinder and turn into a powder). It develops a nice deep mahogany bark. When I'm lazy I use a Montreal style spice that I make with the first 5 ingredients but add corriander and dill seed.

edgeprod 10-10-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 19830521)
Use this as a dry rub at least 24 hours before cooking .... 30 minutes every 2 pounds at 350'F -- or until internal temp of 140'F is reached.

That's pretty close to what I use normally. As far as cooking it, though, I do 20 minutes @ 500F, then finish it at 300F until it's 120F-125F internally.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mastersmodeling (Post 19830523)
I usually go for the Chicago steak seasoning!

I've tried it in the past with decent results. I'm just looking for something new. Maybe garlic-based or ghost-pepper based or something.


Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19830526)
Damn that looks good ??.

It's delicious, and very easy to make. I hate not knowing what's in the food I'm eating, and this is a really good way to control it. Locally-sourced grass-fed beef that you roast in your own oven is pretty reassuring.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 19830531)
I use a mixture of salt, pepper, onion powder, garlic powder, a bit of paprika, thyme, and coffee grounds (that I put in a spice grinder and turn into a powder). It develops a nice deep mahogany bark. When I'm lazy I use a Montreal style spice that I make with the first 5 ingredients but add corriander and dill seed.

Definitely used that recipe, and enjoyed it. I've done the corriander and dill as well to doctor up some Emeral's Steak Seasoning.

LightscapeMedia 10-10-2013 08:35 PM

Nothing's better than home-made horseradish sauce using freshly grated horseradish root to go with it.

bronco67 10-10-2013 08:39 PM

If you need a good source of roast beef, look up Lyndsey Lohan's skirt. Just snatch up whatever might be hanging.

That pic of the rare roast beef is making me hungry.

edgeprod 10-10-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 19830590)
Nothing's better than home-made horseradish sauce using freshly grated horseradish root to go with it.

That's what I often dip it in when I'm sitting by the pool. Good call! :thumbsup I'll have to try it on the sandwich next time, I keep forgetting. I save the juices for dipping, but the combination of the au jus and the homemade horseradish may be pretty awesome.


Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19830593)
If you need a good source of roast beef, look up Lyndsey Lohan's skirt. Just snatch up whatever might be hanging.

That pic of the rare roast beef is making me hungry.

I'd definitely have to sample that roast beef, too.

LightscapeMedia 10-10-2013 09:24 PM

I recently found the perfect way to cook it too.. What I do is:

1. Coat the roast generously in soft, but not melted butter (like 1/8th of an inch thick worth over every square inch)

2. Sprinkle with coarse kosher salt and cracked pepper on all sides

3. Alternate the length of the roast with sliced onion and rosemary sprigs. All resting on the top.

4. Insert thermometer. (Not a rectal one for God's sake!)

5. Place on a baking sheet and surround it with chopped red potatoes and unpeeled garlic cloves. Don't peal them.. just break them away from the bulb and place them on the sheet. When the butter melts, it will coat them so they roast.

Here's the key!

5. Turn the oven all the way up to 500. And cook for exactly 20 minutes. Don't open the door.

6. At exactly the 20 minute mark, turn the oven all the way down to the lowest setting (mine is 200 I think) - Again, DON"T open the door. (use the light instead)

7. Leave it till it hits 5 degrees below your doneness temperature preference.

8. Remove and let rest. Comes out perfect every time. Seared crust and perfect juicy inside!


NOW.. those garlic cloves.. They'll just slide out of their casings and you can use them as a spread.. I usually just mash them on the meat as I eat it. OR they taste fucking awesome whole.. just by themselves.

potter 10-10-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 19830618)

5. Turn the oven all the way up to 500. And cook for exactly 20 minutes. Don't open the door.

6. At exactly the 20 minute mark, turn the oven all the way down to the lowest setting (mine is 200 I think) - Again, DON"T open the door. (use the light instead)

7. Leave it till it hits 5 degrees below your doneness temperature preference.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

My favorite way to do it as well.

edgeprod 10-10-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 19830618)
I recently found the perfect way to cook it too.. What I do is:

1. Coat the roast generously in soft, but not melted butter (like 1/8th of an inch thick worth over every square inch)

2. Sprinkle with coarse kosher salt and cracked pepper on all sides

3. Alternate the length of the roast with sliced onion and rosemary sprigs. All resting on the top.

4. Insert thermometer. (Not a rectal one for God's sake!)

5. Place on a baking sheet and surround it with chopped red potatoes and unpeeled garlic cloves. Don't peal them.. just break them away from the bulb and place them on the sheet. When the butter melts, it will coat them so they roast.

Here's the key!

5. Turn the oven all the way up to 500. And cook for exactly 20 minutes. Don't open the door.

6. At exactly the 20 minute mark, turn the oven all the way down to the lowest setting (mine is 200 I think) - Again, DON"T open the door. (use the light instead)

7. Leave it till it hits 5 degrees below your doneness temperature preference.

8. Remove and let rest. Comes out perfect every time. Seared crust and perfect juicy inside!


NOW.. those garlic cloves.. They'll just slide out of their casings and you can use them as a spread.. I usually just mash them on the meat as I eat it. OR they taste fucking awesome whole.. just by themselves.

Sounds awesome. I do a lot of that -- for the 'remove and let rest' part, I put foil over it for 20 minutes, then I slice it thin.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-10-2013 10:29 PM

Teriyaki sauce with roasted sesame seeds... :thumbsup

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma...5ftxo1_500.jpg

:stoned

ADG

facialfreak 10-10-2013 10:38 PM

Is she ^^^^ eating a broiled vagina?????? :eek2

edgeprod 10-10-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19830644)
Teriyaki sauce with roasted sesame seeds... :thumbsup

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma...5ftxo1_500.jpg

:stoned

ADG

Oh shit. That sounds good as fuck. Would I do that BEFORE I roast it, or AFTER?

WetandPuffy 10-11-2013 12:37 AM

Damm I am hungry now and I am going to to after try these recipes out. I love beef but never seem to cook it right

yuu.design 10-11-2013 06:47 AM

yummy yummy!

PR_Glen 10-11-2013 07:23 AM

i switch it up with fresh herbs every now and then but i don't get all that creative with it because the beef flavour is what I enjoy the most.

Anyone else cook the roast on the rack itself? I've been doing this for a few years now and it always comes out perfect this way.

Grapesoda 10-11-2013 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19830625)
Sounds awesome. I do a lot of that -- for the 'remove and let rest' part, I put foil over it for 20 minutes, then I slice it thin.

try injection as well.... maybe wine or some fruit juice, or just flavored beef stock

DamianJ 10-11-2013 08:25 AM

Absolutely nothing at all. I want to just taste beef.

But, I make a cracking gravy to have with it from the juices in the pan, some fresh beef stock and red wine. And obviously, as is the way here, serve with yorkshire puds, roast spuds and a selection of veg from the garden.

_Richard_ 10-11-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19831070)
Absolutely nothing at all. I want to just taste beef.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/122...-hamster-o.gif

edgeprod 10-11-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19830989)
Anyone else cook the roast on the rack itself? I've been doing this for a few years now and it always comes out perfect this way.

I put a baking rack inside of a pan to elevate the meat.

Mutt 10-11-2013 08:43 AM

Cavemen - too rare for me :Oh crap

I like beef brisket from Jewish deli's, don't have any near me tho.

sperbonzo 10-11-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 19830521)
2 tablespoons paprika
2 tablespoons crushed black pepper
2 tablespoon coarse ground coffee
2 tablespoons kosher salt
1 tablespoon granulated garlic
1 tablespoon granulated onion
1 tablespoon crushed coriander
1 tablespoon dill
1 tablespoon crushed red pepper flakes

Use this as a dry rub at least 24 hours before cooking .... 30 minutes every 2 pounds at 350'F -- or until internal temp of 140'F is reached.

Good recipe for the rub, but I put it at 450 until the internal temp is about 75, then lower it to 350 until the internal temp is 112. Then I take it out and let it rest for about 15 minutes. (During which time the internal temp rises to about 120-125 and the juices are re-absorbed.)

Also, I let it sit out until it comes almost to room temp prior to cooking.



.:2 cents:

edgeprod 10-11-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19831098)
Cavemen - too rare for me :Oh crap

I like beef brisket from Jewish deli's, don't have any near me tho.

You would have hated the ribeye steak I had last night, then. I put it on the sear (infrared) grill for 10 seconds per side. Lightly cooked on the outside, red-raw on the inside. Love it that way. It takes longer for my wife to go get me a beer than it does to finish my steak. :1orglaugh

sperbonzo 10-11-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19831275)
You would have hated the ribeye steak I had last night, then. I put it on the sear (infrared) grill for 10 seconds per side. Lightly cooked on the outside, red-raw on the inside. Love it that way. It takes longer for my wife to go get me a beer than it does to finish my steak. :1orglaugh

My kind of guy!


:drinkup



.

edgeprod 10-11-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19831293)
My kind of guy!


:drinkup

A fellow taste-lover, eh? I just think cooking the meat robs it of SO MUCH flavor. My steaks never bleed, are always delicious, and I often don't even need to season them. When I cook a steak for someone else, I toss on salt, pepper, and two pats of butter per side. For me, I just cook the damn thing, and it's delicious.

Si 10-11-2013 07:59 PM

Beef gives me the shits. True story.

Seth Manson 10-11-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 19831871)
Beef gives me the shits. True story.

Sounds like you're using too much lube.

Si 10-11-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19831874)
Sounds like you're using too much lube.

:1orglaugh

lagcam 10-12-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19831070)
Absolutely nothing at all. I want to just taste beef.

Same here. Play with the sauces, don't mess with the meat.

Nickatilynx 10-13-2013 06:54 AM

I agree with Damian and lagcam.

The main thing is to make sure the gravy is good.Need it for veggies and Yorkshires to taste majestic.

Here is my gravy receipe:

cook onions and garlic in frying pan until translucent
Add in beef broth and half cup of red wine...
reduce
Add rest of bottle of red wine , add bottle of brandy...
throw away the Beef and drink the gravy.....

;-)))

mineistaken 10-13-2013 08:37 AM

raw is for animals

edgeprod 10-14-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19832914)
raw is for animals

... which humans are.

mineistaken 10-14-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19833962)
... which humans are.

I was expecting such an answer.
Humans are capable of cooking, boiling food. Animals are not, so they eat it raw. No need (most likely not good) to eat raw for humans.

edgeprod 10-14-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19833985)
I was expecting such an answer.
Humans are capable of cooking, boiling food. Animals are not, so they eat it raw. No need (most likely not good) to eat raw for humans.

You're prefer to denature food versus eating it raw? What studies led you to this conclusion? Many foods are better for you cooked -- tomatoes release more active compounds when cooked. Broccoli, for example is the opposite, and is better for you raw. Cooking broccoli actually lessens its benefits.

It's a puzzle that takes some thought and research to master. Until you have, blanket statements just make you look like you read something once and parrot it for the rest of your life.

baddog 10-14-2013 11:25 AM

I remember a party in Amsterdam (I think) put on by Local Billing. They had beef carpaccio . . . made me wonder why we spent so much time cooking beef when it was so delicious raw.

PuffyCash_Megan 10-14-2013 11:28 AM

I really want Roast Beef now... I generally don't put anything on mine either... Apart from a little bit of Olive oil, and occasionally rock salt but not that often.

(but for future reference, with Lamb I make slits in the meat and I place in cloves of garlic, and cover in olive oil... mmmm)

edgeprod 10-14-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19834032)
I remember a party in Amsterdam (I think) put on by Local Billing. They had beef carpaccio . . . made me wonder why we spent so much time cooking beef when it was so delicious raw.

It truly is. Anything over medium rare ruins a lot of the flavor in most steaks.


Quote:

Originally Posted by PuffyCash_Megan (Post 19834038)
I really want Roast Beef now... I generally don't put anything on mine either... Apart from a little bit of Olive oil, and occasionally rock salt but not that often.

(but for future reference, with Lamb I make slits in the meat and I place in cloves of garlic, and cover in olive oil... mmmm)

That sounds delicious!

CDSmith 10-14-2013 12:02 PM

One way I like to do it sometimes is to cover the roast with a good sprinkling of Montreal Steak Spice, then lay several strips of thick cut smoked peppered bacon overtop of it all. Put it in at 400-450 for about half an hour, then turn down the heat to 300-325 or so and cook it the rest of the way as you like it. No matter if you like it rare in the middle or well-done and falling apart it tastes simply succulent. Carve up what's left (if any) and let the slices soak in the juice overnight and you'll have the best leftovers you ever ate the next day.

Did that with a super lean moose roast once and it turned out to be one of the best damn roasts I have ever had. Naturally I had to try it with beef. It's different I know, probably a little too 'Canadian' for some, but it's different, which is what you asked for. :D

Elli 10-14-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 19830618)
I recently found the perfect way to cook it too.. What I do is:

1. Coat the roast generously in soft, but not melted butter (like 1/8th of an inch thick worth over every square inch)

2. Sprinkle with coarse kosher salt and cracked pepper on all sides

3. Alternate the length of the roast with sliced onion and rosemary sprigs. All resting on the top.

4. Insert thermometer. (Not a rectal one for God's sake!)

5. Place on a baking sheet and surround it with chopped red potatoes and unpeeled garlic cloves. Don't peal them.. just break them away from the bulb and place them on the sheet. When the butter melts, it will coat them so they roast.

Here's the key!

5. Turn the oven all the way up to 500. And cook for exactly 20 minutes. Don't open the door.

6. At exactly the 20 minute mark, turn the oven all the way down to the lowest setting (mine is 200 I think) - Again, DON"T open the door. (use the light instead)

7. Leave it till it hits 5 degrees below your doneness temperature preference.

8. Remove and let rest. Comes out perfect every time. Seared crust and perfect juicy inside!


NOW.. those garlic cloves.. They'll just slide out of their casings and you can use them as a spread.. I usually just mash them on the meat as I eat it. OR they taste fucking awesome whole.. just by themselves.

Do you use any particular cut for this loveliness?

sandman! 10-14-2013 12:39 PM

im hungry now :2 cents::2 cents:

edgeprod 10-14-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 19834159)
im hungry now :2 cents::2 cents:

Trade roast beef for servers? :1orglaugh

Actually, I was thinking of moving one of them today. Hit me on Skype.

LightscapeMedia 10-14-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 19834154)
Do you use any particular cut for this loveliness?

Usually either a London Broil or a Tri-tip.

LightscapeMedia 10-14-2013 12:50 PM

Humans are capable of cooking, boiling food. Animals are not, so they eat it raw. No need (most likely not good) to eat raw for humans.[/QUOTE]

The only reason raw meat is bad for humans is because of its lack of freshness in modern society. From the time it's butchered to the time it's served is significant. If you killed and ate a raw chicken immediately, there would be no salmonella poisoning, for example..

whOaKemosabe 10-14-2013 12:59 PM

http://inflanation.com/wp-content/up...nt-Croatia.jpg

edgeprod 10-14-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by whOaKemosabe (Post 19834210)

Not sure what this Croatian plant has to do with what we're talking about here.

fuzebox 10-14-2013 01:17 PM

I've never done a roast. This thread has inspired me :thumbsup

fuzebox 10-14-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19834227)
Not sure what this Croatian plant has to do with what we're talking about here.

I'd spend more time on GFY is they banned losers like this.

https://gfy.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=304891

edgeprod 10-14-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19834239)
I've never done a roast. This thread has inspired me :thumbsup

Sweet! Looking forward to pics.


Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19834244)
I'd spend more time on GFY is they banned losers like this.

https://gfy.com/search.php?do=finduser&u=304891

Sadly, GFY would become a wasteland without half of the idiots who fit that mold. Eric is probably right to keep them, as frustrating as it is for the rest of us.


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