Nathan if you're wondering why Playboy sucks .........
 

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What is that shit? Is this 1988? Who let Suze Randall back behind a camera?

She seems awfully close to that fire!

No we should go back to the idiots that put the camera on automatic setting and use hardware store flood lights.
it is a fake back ground.

U Think??:1orglaugh fire looks painting

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I agree, not diggin' that pic.

Gypsy woman, I like!

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Are you kidding me?

This industry still has idiots that don't own cameras with manual settings. :Oh crap

It's silly old fashioned photography that nobody wants in 2013 - Arabian Nights set :1orglaugh

I like it

Not my style but it doesn't look terrible or anything

Interesting comment. Even Vegas got rid of their Arabian themes.

Looks great. She has a great ass.:thumbsup

I think some chocolate covered strawberries in the pic would be good... I don't know why... I look at that picture and I think of deserts.

I concur. :thumbsup It may be vintage neo-romantic arabian but I can still imagine licking the chocolate and strawberries off that ass. A dessert buffet with several girls would be just fine.

I think that was all that needed to be said. But I might add that the fans are not any better.

Some 67 yo has just slipped a viagra and is jacking off to this as I write, hopefully he remembered to take his Beta-blockers

If you surf babe sites, you can always tell the Playboy thumbnails. I grew up loving that stuff but now I can't even be bothered to open the gallery.

set distracts from the model .. the shot is definitely not well thought out ... :2 cents:

lack of respect for you 'market' is an interesting concept that will take you far, I'm sure :2 cents:

And you know what " Some 67 year old man " does that the young men do not do?
Pay to masturbate. I would prefer 1 paying old man instead of 100 young men that do not.

Correct, I get plenty of sales from those guys on my 'Sexy' sites :2 cents:

I have a camera and my micorwave is a manual setting one.

Does that count?

True. There are idiots fans too. :2 cents:

Who let Suze Randall back behind a camera:1orglaugh

I make a distinction between fans and clients.

As in strip bars.
A punter will sit with the girl all night long and never pay for a dance. A smart and experienced stripper can see real fast who will open their wallet and is nice to them.
And it is always the idiot that never purchases a dance that complains that the girls are whores and that he never gets what he wants.

Unfortunately in the porn industry not only do they tend to listen to this bitching cheap skate idiot but quite often go to him for opinions and even offer them jobs.

Not what Playboy customers are looking for outside of the Middle East where it is banned so sales suck there anyways and the market is all black market and piracy.

looks sexy

Playboy was ahead of it's time in the 60's - 70's then became throwbacks..Just stuck in a time warp.

Met a young model lately who thought Playboy was just a clothing line - the mag is going from irrelevant to even worse...unknown...to a whole new generation. The Bunny logo is known...but not for being associated to a magazine by many younger people...

They should retire the magazine when Hef dies. Otherwise it will just wobble and fall eventually like a punch drunk fighter way past his prime.

Playboy needs to go out with dignity Breaking Bad style.

The Suze Randall comparison is hilarious. Yes I see it as well. But I think even she refrained from such gaudy sets as this.

I'm a vintage guy, so I'm biased - but Playboy was excellent in the 1970s when they went full-frontal but before they got into the 1980s over-airbrushing and teased hair stuff. If you like the retro look those sets still hold up today IMO.

I have a big collection from the 1960s & 70s, and it's funny... the articles and other writing in them is 10x more intelligent than "legit" news magazines today. Great interviews with politicians, artists, writers, celebrities, bona fide literature in their short fiction features, quality travel writing, etc. You really could "read it for the articles". Seriously, thumb through a few Playboys from the early 1970s and you'll see how dumbed down our culture's gotten where a girlie mag from that era is way smarter than any mainstream mags (outside of Harpers, et al) today.

Then in the 90s they tried to modernize, skew younger & go the Maxim route (but with actual tits), but they just had no idea how to do it. Alienated their original audience and never connected with the younger one, it's been a train wreck for years now.

Not enough cock?

I disagree, said not one person in the history of marketing/sales, ever.

Only fools pay for lap dances. Fucking fools. Tipping them when they come around is fair, but I want to tweak a nipple.
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Put the camera in the microwave - post the vid. :1orglaugh

Hope it turn it round

I cannot whack it to pictures such as this.

Playboy should start some amateur fucking sites :)

You just more or less proved what I said.

no quite the opposite. I proved the distinction between cheap and stupid. Paying for a lap dance is stupid. Not tipping is cheap. I always tip. I just never pay for a stupid lap dance. If I was getting blown, sure, maybe I would drop a 100, but for a guy who films porn, a lap dance is a bit mickey mouse.
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I have been in this industry in one form or another probably longer than most on this site have been alive. And I have heard many many many similar comments and arguements over years. Each time it was a punter or a former punter that found his way in to this industry.

So not to be disrespectful to you but you might want to try and re-work what you just wrote. Because you are coming across (at least in my opinion) as a punter and not a professional.

As for me when I go in to a strip bar I tip and I pay the girls for their time. Otherwise I do not go in.

I have been doing this for 12 years +. I own a very successful program. Just because I don't want a damn lap dance doesn't mean shit. Where do you draw these parallels from? If a girl sits next to me, I put a dollar in her cleavage & I tell her I'm not interested in a lap dance before she tells me how she's in school to be a veterinarian. I'm a 2 beer & out kinda guy & tip well. If I'm there I'm recruiting these whores.
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So I ask, what's this gotta do with Nathan ?:winkwink:

Exactly I never pay for a Lap Dance or Dance Drink.
I will buy a Normal Drink.

I tip Awesome Dancers on stage. I tip Every Dancer that comes around for tips After she dances.

Why pay to get turned on.. Like paying for Blue Balls...... No Lap dances for me.

Drinks.. mostly no alcohol and the club gets the money. If a dancer sits and talks to me knowing this, (yes I tell them up front) then I slide her a nice tip for her time.

No, Private rooms, I have heard are for sex reasons... IDK

I just tell them I am a photographer, then get their number. setup a shoot, and most fuck...

No PAY Me Bitches for the info!!!!

He (Manwin) bought a large portion of the Playboy Empire - the cable and web rights and such (including GFY?)... But I doubt he has much to do with the Magazine.

Sup Short Stack!

Recruiting these whores.

Yes. You're some kind of save a ho?
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not super cool calling women whores even if that's exactly what they are, so I avoid that term.

if I go into a strip club I generally leave with phone numbers and tipping doesn't help one bit