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$5 submissions 09-24-2013 05:02 PM

Google KILLS FINETUNING SEO with latest move?
 
Well, you can still do SEO while building your site. Optimizing it using keywords you ACTUALLY RANK for... well, that part got tricky due to this: http://searchenginewatch.com/article...-Secure-Search

Adam_M 09-24-2013 05:56 PM

"Not provided" is already over 90% of our search traffic.

kane 09-24-2013 06:00 PM

What about within their own webmaster tools ?

That still tells me what keywords I am ranking for and how many people are finding my site from those keywords.

looky_lou 09-24-2013 06:32 PM

I noticed this a few days ago. I don't use Goggle Webmaster Tools. I use a 3rd party stats script. I thought it was a problem with the 3rd party script, but I guess it is a result of this latest Google change.

The last 2 days 99% of my Google and Google Image stats fall into the "not provided" categories. There are a few stragglers for Google, but that's about it.

Awkward 09-24-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_M (Post 19811464)
"Not provided" is already over 90% of our search traffic.

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sandman! 09-24-2013 07:31 PM

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Arnox 09-24-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_M (Post 19811464)
"Not provided" is already over 90% of our search traffic.

Tell me about it. I have to use what landing pages I have to see what content is popular these days. So lame.

Tom_PM 09-24-2013 08:09 PM

Used to be that if the destination url was also https, they passed the data. The article didn't touch on that, did it? Is that gone too? What about for adwords?

oppoten 09-24-2013 08:32 PM

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Emil 09-25-2013 04:48 AM

Yeah, they've been doing this for a while now, fucking cunts.

seeandsee 09-25-2013 05:07 AM

google control and know all NOT :)

Emil 09-25-2013 07:20 AM

edit:
ops, already posted

Antonio 09-25-2013 08:17 AM

Fucking super greedy cunts. From now on, they will run updates every 20 days that do nothing more than shuffle sites at random so that NO webmaster could ever rely on their organic traffic long term. Your alternative? Adwords, or so they hope

96ukssob 09-25-2013 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 19811413)
Well, you can still do SEO while building your site. Optimizing it using keywords you ACTUALLY RANK for... well, that part got tricky due to this: http://searchenginewatch.com/article...-Secure-Search

You just now saw this?

This has been going on now for MONTHS, which is why they want you to use GWT instead to check ranks and search queries. All due to "user privacy" when searching.

adultmobile 09-25-2013 08:27 AM

http://i1.wp.com/www.thesmallbusines...s/meme-seo.jpg

wehateporn 09-25-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 19812050)
Fucking super greedy cunts. From now on, they will run updates every 20 days that do nothing more than shuffle sites at random so that NO webmaster could ever rely on their organic traffic long term. Your alternative? Adwords, or so they hope

In which case it's worth having 100's or 1000's of sites with a variety of designs, so as the shuffle will have little impact on overall sales :2 cents:

rogueteens 09-25-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19812062)
In which case it's worth having 100's or 1000's of sites with a variety of designs, so as the shuffle will have little impact on overall sales :2 cents:

except that you'll have 100's or 1000's of sites with no traffic while all the prime spots go to Google's so-called authority sites.

wehateporn 09-25-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19812080)
except that you'll have 100's or 1000's of sites with no traffic while all the prime spots go to Google's so-called authority sites.

Agreed, though if one focuses on high profit long-tail keywords there can still be plenty of sales :2 cents:

just a punk 09-25-2013 09:10 AM

It's time to buy SSL certificates for your sites. In this case the SE keywords won't be hidden from you :winkwink:

Emil 09-25-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19812116)
It's time to buy SSL certificates for your sites. In this case the SE keywords won't be hidden from you :winkwink:

What? Why isn't it hidden? Because 2 SSL-layers would fuck things up? I dont get it. :upsidedow

just a punk 09-25-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 19812130)
What? Why isn't it hidden? Because 2 SSL-layers would fuck things up? I dont get it. :upsidedow

https -> https

adultmobile 09-25-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19812080)
so-called authority sites.

Following %'s must be updated:

http://cdn.business2community.com/wp...01/SEORank.png

$5 submissions 09-29-2013 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19812116)
It's time to buy SSL certificates for your sites. In this case the SE keywords won't be hidden from you :winkwink:

uhm, Google is going 100% hidden EXCEPT for adwords

Zeiss 09-29-2013 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 19812050)
Fucking super greedy cunts. From now on, they will run updates every 20 days that do nothing more than shuffle sites at random so that NO webmaster could ever rely on their organic traffic long term. Your alternative? Adwords, or so they hope

Pff.. That's what I thought, too.

Ramirez 09-29-2013 08:27 AM

Google sucks camel balls.

DWB 09-29-2013 09:37 AM

For "user privacy" yet they give all user data to the US government. lol

livexxx 09-29-2013 01:46 PM

Don't bother with going to SSL thinking it retains keywords, its a kinda myth.
It's all gone now and turned off apart from CPC adword traffic, which isnt much help for organic traffic :)

Bing, Yahoo and others still pass it, but that doesn't really help if you are tuning and tweaking landing pages on inbound references for Google searches or exploring long tail drivers.

It was all quietly turned off about 3 or 4 days ago. Probably a good time to grab and review all your current keyword data in case they ever decide to wipe that menu option from the dashboard...

$5 submissions 09-29-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livexxx (Post 19816263)
Don't bother with going to SSL thinking it retains keywords, its a kinda myth.
It's all gone now and turned off apart from CPC adword traffic, which isnt much help for organic traffic :)

Bing, Yahoo and others still pass it, but that doesn't really help if you are tuning and tweaking landing pages on inbound references for Google searches or exploring long tail drivers.

It was all quietly turned off about 3 or 4 days ago. Probably a good time to grab and review all your current keyword data in case they ever decide to wipe that menu option from the dashboard...

Plus, Google's launching a REWRITE of their main algo. Fun times ahead :Oh crap

AdultKing 09-29-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 19816266)
Plus, Google's launching a REWRITE of their main algo. Fun times ahead :Oh crap

They already have.

Hummingbird went live a month ago.

Sid70 09-29-2013 02:37 PM

Back to yahoo and rambler time.

gracesfall 09-29-2013 03:36 PM

What are the odds that if Google keeps fucking w/ their algo and results that users will jump ship and go to Bing or Yahoo? It's too early in the game NOT to optimize for Google, but damn I'll be glad when I don't have to jump through hoops to appease that fickle whore.

$5 submissions 09-29-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gracesfall (Post 19816329)
What are the odds that if Google keeps fucking w/ their algo and results that users will jump ship and go to Bing or Yahoo? It's too early in the game NOT to optimize for Google, but damn I'll be glad when I don't have to jump through hoops to appease that fickle whore.

Considering how Google's trying to create a SEAMLESS system between websites and mobile, it is becoming increasingly unlikely people will jump to another SITE. Google's transformed itself into a PLATFORM and fighting a platform with a site isn't going to cut it. Still, this might all blow up in Google's face if it screws people's privacy in a major way in the future.


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