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ShowMe69 09-24-2013 10:06 AM

Forever FreeLoader or Customer?
 
Question for you guys, how much free content do you think you should give away, if any?
Let say length of video preview 30-seconds, 1,2 minutes?

And do you think you can ever change a freeloader into a customer?

Your thoughts on this...

ShowMe69 09-27-2013 07:31 AM

man I really thought you guys would have some thoughts on this

geedub 09-27-2013 07:34 AM

I could give away all of my content, hell a lot of it is non-exclusive and available in full on xvideos. People still buy. There is no direct answer to this question, try a few things and use what works for your site(s).

Fat Panda 09-27-2013 07:41 AM

all the porn any penis will ever need is available online to stream for FREE

porn is dead

ShowMe69 09-27-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 19814419)
all the porn any penis will ever need is available online to stream for FREE

porn is dead

true tons of porn is out there for FREE, but some people still keep buying porn

Struggle4Bucks 09-27-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 19810921)
Question for you guys, how much free content do you think you should give away, if any?
Let say length of video preview 30-seconds, 1,2 minutes?

And do you think you can ever change a freeloader into a customer?

Your thoughts on this...

I have some theories about it but they are all based on own experience and thoughts...

I think it's best working with short trailers instead of full-movies or 6 minutes freemovies.
I mean "best working" for the sponser... Of course the tubes and their cpp's want you to think videos over 5 minutes are the best but that's simply because wtf can they do with 30 second-trailers? That's a shitty product to offer THEIR visitors... If they say: longer videos are better converting they actually mean to say: we don't give a fuck if we convert for you... we don't want it to convert for you... we want as-long-as-possible-free-videos to keep the visitors on our site with your content because rev. share is not our income-model... ads are! Most tubes only accept videos with a minimum length of 5 min. so if you want to add trailers to a tube...

Have you ever seen a 6 minutes hollywoodmovie trailer? Free content should tease. Take a music video for example... they are hotter and often more teasing then porntube movies:1orglaugh Why? Because of the speed of the images: mostly no shots longer then 1 or 2 seconds. It's hot but at the same time very frustrating for the watcher... everytime they see a hot image it's allready gone again. They can not only not fap to it... it also makes them want mooooorrreeee. It's mindblowing... because images go faster then their brain can register.

You can make a very teasing 5 minute-trailer but just make sure the shots are short. If scenes are too short to fill a 5 min. video with short shots then just simply use different scenes for one trailer.

From my own experience... If i see a 5 minutes free video, or a full video; or a 10 minutes trailer or whatever... I've allready seen it... don't need to subscribe to see the rest. Porn surfers are looking for the best possible scene to fap to that best fits their interest/fetish at THAT very moment. They want to see exactly what they are dreaming about. Well, that doesn't exist. It can come close but it's never good enough. That's why you should not show too much! Because if you show too much you're not teasing them... you only show them that your scene is good but not exactly perfectly what they want it to be according to their fantasy of that moment. TEASE!

This is how i make my trailers:

Trailer

bronco67 09-27-2013 10:26 AM

Have an awesome product. Does that thought ever cross anyone's mind as a good business strategy?

Struggle4Bucks 09-27-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19814639)
Have an awesome product. Does that thought ever cross anyone's mind as a good business strategy?

That's what it starts with... and then.....

trevesty 09-27-2013 10:37 AM

Anybody over the age of 18 and a means to pay(credit card, via mobile, whatever) is a potential customer.

trevesty 09-27-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19814644)
That's what it starts with... and then.....

.. at a price point people are willing to pay for your particular product in a format that's convenient for them. :thumbsup

ShowMe69 09-27-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19814629)
I have some theories about it but they are all based on own experience and thoughts...

I think it's best working with short trailers instead of full-movies or 6 minutes freemovies.
I mean "best working" for the sponser... Of course the tubes and their cpp's want you to think videos over 5 minutes are the best but that's simply because wtf can they do with 30 second-trailers? That's a shitty product to offer THEIR visitors... If they say: longer videos are better converting they actually mean to say: we don't give a fuck if we convert for you... we don't want it to convert for you... we want as-long-as-possible-free-videos to keep the visitors on our site with your content because rev. share is not our income-model... ads are! Most tubes only accept videos with a minimum length of 5 min. so if you want to add trailers to a tube...

Have you ever seen a 6 minutes hollywoodmovie trailer? Free content should tease. Take a music video for example... they are hotter and often more teasing then porntube movies:1orglaugh Why? Because of the speed of the images: mostly no shots longer then 1 or 2 seconds. It's hot but at the same time very frustrating for the watcher... everytime they see a hot image it's allready gone again. They can not only not fap to it... it also makes them want mooooorrreeee. It's mindblowing... because images go faster then their brain can register.

You can make a very teasing 5 minute-trailer but just make sure the shots are short. If scenes are too short to fill a 5 min. video with short shots then just simply use different scenes for one trailer.

From my own experience... If i see a 5 minutes free video, or a full video; or a 10 minutes trailer or whatever... I've allready seen it... don't need to subscribe to see the rest. Porn surfers are looking for the best possible scene to fap to that best fits their interest/fetish at THAT very moment. They want to see exactly what they are dreaming about. Well, that doesn't exist. It can come close but it's never good enough. That's why you should not show too much! Because if you show too much you're not teasing them... you only show them that your scene is good but not exactly perfectly what they want it to be according to their fantasy of that moment. TEASE!

This is how i make my trailers:

Trailer

I tend to agree with you

SilentKnight 09-27-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19814629)
I have some theories about it but they are all based on own experience and thoughts...

I think it's best working with short trailers instead of full-movies or 6 minutes freemovies.
I mean "best working" for the sponser... Of course the tubes and their cpp's want you to think videos over 5 minutes are the best but that's simply because wtf can they do with 30 second-trailers? That's a shitty product to offer THEIR visitors... If they say: longer videos are better converting they actually mean to say: we don't give a fuck if we convert for you... we don't want it to convert for you... we want as-long-as-possible-free-videos to keep the visitors on our site with your content because rev. share is not our income-model... ads are! Most tubes only accept videos with a minimum length of 5 min. so if you want to add trailers to a tube...

Have you ever seen a 6 minutes hollywoodmovie trailer? Free content should tease. Take a music video for example... they are hotter and often more teasing then porntube movies:1orglaugh Why? Because of the speed of the images: mostly no shots longer then 1 or 2 seconds. It's hot but at the same time very frustrating for the watcher... everytime they see a hot image it's allready gone again. They can not only not fap to it... it also makes them want mooooorrreeee. It's mindblowing... because images go faster then their brain can register.

You can make a very teasing 5 minute-trailer but just make sure the shots are short. If scenes are too short to fill a 5 min. video with short shots then just simply use different scenes for one trailer.

From my own experience... If i see a 5 minutes free video, or a full video; or a 10 minutes trailer or whatever... I've allready seen it... don't need to subscribe to see the rest. Porn surfers are looking for the best possible scene to fap to that best fits their interest/fetish at THAT very moment. They want to see exactly what they are dreaming about. Well, that doesn't exist. It can come close but it's never good enough. That's why you should not show too much! Because if you show too much you're not teasing them... you only show them that your scene is good but not exactly perfectly what they want it to be according to their fantasy of that moment. TEASE!

This is how i make my trailers:

Trailer

Sage words of advice. Good stuff! :thumbsup

sadiedazzle 09-28-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19814629)
I have some theories about it but they are all based on own experience and thoughts...

I think it's best working with short trailers instead of full-movies or 6 minutes freemovies.
I mean "best working" for the sponser... Of course the tubes and their cpp's want you to think videos over 5 minutes are the best but that's simply because wtf can they do with 30 second-trailers? That's a shitty product to offer THEIR visitors... If they say: longer videos are better converting they actually mean to say: we don't give a fuck if we convert for you... we don't want it to convert for you... we want as-long-as-possible-free-videos to keep the visitors on our site with your content because rev. share is not our income-model... ads are! Most tubes only accept videos with a minimum length of 5 min. so if you want to add trailers to a tube...

Have you ever seen a 6 minutes hollywoodmovie trailer? Free content should tease. Take a music video for example... they are hotter and often more teasing then porntube movies:1orglaugh Why? Because of the speed of the images: mostly no shots longer then 1 or 2 seconds. It's hot but at the same time very frustrating for the watcher... everytime they see a hot image it's allready gone again. They can not only not fap to it... it also makes them want mooooorrreeee. It's mindblowing... because images go faster then their brain can register.

You can make a very teasing 5 minute-trailer but just make sure the shots are short. If scenes are too short to fill a 5 min. video with short shots then just simply use different scenes for one trailer.

From my own experience... If i see a 5 minutes free video, or a full video; or a 10 minutes trailer or whatever... I've allready seen it... don't need to subscribe to see the rest. Porn surfers are looking for the best possible scene to fap to that best fits their interest/fetish at THAT very moment. They want to see exactly what they are dreaming about. Well, that doesn't exist. It can come close but it's never good enough. That's why you should not show too much! Because if you show too much you're not teasing them... you only show them that your scene is good but not exactly perfectly what they want it to be according to their fantasy of that moment. TEASE!

This is how i make my trailers:

Trailer

My thoughts exactly. I've experimented with longer "trailers" and they don't convert any better than shorter trailers. Sites just want product to fill their sites and keep people on their site, not go to yours.


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