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adendreams 09-19-2013 12:40 PM

College Football Prediction: Oregon Ducks will win National Title
 
I know I said it last year and was wrong...like the dude who predicted the Rapture I'm coming back for more.

Will bump the day they win or lose it - anyone want to start a betting pool I'm in.

kane 09-19-2013 12:56 PM

I hope so.

They look good.

Perhaps the one thing they will have this year that they have missed the last few years is an improved defense.

purecane 09-19-2013 01:34 PM

your prediction is invalid since the Miami Hurricanes are gonna take it all this year.....GO CANES!!!!!!

deltav 09-19-2013 02:15 PM

They're my alma mater, so I'm pretty excited about the season.

Defense is improved (not that they've been a total slouch the past few years despite the 'all-offense' cliche), offense will roll most games as usual, but.....

Our Achilles heel is the kicking game. The inability to reliably kick an end-of-game FG hurt us in some huge games the past couple years (USC in 2011, Stanford 2012). Last year it cost them a shot at a weak Notre Dame team in the championship, whom they would have crushed. And I think it'll cost us one this year too.

My prediction is another BCS bowl win but no NCG - against Ohio State in the Rose Bowl would be fine with me, get revenge for a few years back. We'll see...

Hawkeye 09-19-2013 02:28 PM

I agree.

dimfizz 09-19-2013 04:08 PM

I see nothing on the Ducks schedule that would NOT allow them to go undefeated. However, if Alabama gets thru it's 10X's harder schedule without a defeat, forget it.

Alabama almost got beat by TA&M (Johnny Manziel), but won with a high powered offense. How would the Ducks do Johnny Manziel? Or any of the other stronger teams in the SEC?

If it comes down to the Pac 12 or the SEC, which do you think would win?

deltav 09-19-2013 04:18 PM

The SEC is still king of the block until someone knocks them off, no doubt. But last season the best NC matchup would've been Bama-Oregon - both easily won their bowl games, and though Bama would've obviously been favored who knows how it actually plays out.

Hopefully we'll get to see it this year. Both teams will be favored for the rest of their matchups, but all it takes is playing one shitty game at the wrong time. SEC teams can usually absorb a loss and make the NC as we've seen, Pac-12 have no margin for error.

From what I've seen this year A&M ain't all that - I'd be surprised if they don't lose another couple games.

bushwacker 09-19-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806176)
I see nothing on the Ducks schedule that would NOT allow them to go undefeated. However, if Alabama gets thru it's 10X's harder schedule without a defeat, forget it.

Alabama almost got beat by TA&M (Johnny Manziel), but won with a high powered offense. How would the Ducks do Johnny Manziel? Or any of the other stronger teams in the SEC?

If it comes down to the Pac 12 or the SEC, which do you think would win?

I'm no oregon fan, but the ducks would hang 50 on a&m. Their defense is horrible. A&M can't stop a nose bleed. :2 cents::2 cents:

dimfizz 09-19-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushwacker
I'm no oregon fan, but the ducks would hang 50 on a&m. Their defense is horrible. A&M can't stop a nose bleed.

Dumbass, Alabama did hang 49 on them. That's not the problem, A&M got 42 back.

deltav 09-19-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806220)
Dumbass, Alabama did hang 49 on them. That's not the problem, A&M got 42 back.

I watched that game - it wasn't really as close as the score indicated. A&M scored a couple late touchdowns on a desperate last minute comeback attempt, and it took some lucky-ass bounces and breaks to even get them that close. There was never much doubt Bama was going to win.

bushwacker 09-19-2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806220)
Dumbass, Alabama did hang 49 on them. That's not the problem, A&M got 42 back.


Dickhead, my point was bama does not have a high powered offense, far from it, A&M:s defense sucks.

Got it fuck face? :321GFY

dimfizz 09-19-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav
I watched that game - it wasn't really as close as the score indicated. A&M scored a couple late touchdowns on a desperate last minute comeback attempt, and it took some lucky-ass bounces and breaks to even get them that close. There was never much doubt Bama was going to win.

Wrong. There was a doubt from the beginning, A&M took a 14-0 lead, so it looked like they might repeat as winners. You have to remember that A&M beat Alabama last year (Alabama's only defeat). So after A&M scored so easily the first two times on offense, it looked like it might be a blowout. And even after Alabama "took control" it could have gone back the other way. With Johnny Manziel you never know.

A&M scored 21 points in the last quarter, and it looked like they might pull off a miracle. You go and ask some Bama fans how they felt watching that game in the last few minutes... bet they didn't think it was over (til it was over).

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Originally Posted by bushwacker
Dickhead, my point was bama does not have a high powered offense, far from it, A&M:s defense sucks. Got it fuck face?

Alabama beat A&M this year with a combination of opportunistic defense and high powered offense. They racked up more than 500 yards total offense. (A&M over 600 yards).

Back to the point, are you're saying the Ducks could beat most of the teams in the SEC?
Probably not. If the Oregon Ducks where in the SEC they would be 3rd at best.

Personally, I think both Alabama and A&M could beat Oregon. Along with Clemson and Georgia. The only reason the Ducks will be anywhere near the top ten this year is the schedule they play... it's weak. The PAC ten is weak.

deltav 09-19-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806435)
Personally, I think both Alabama and A&M could beat Oregon. Along with Clemson and Georgia. The only reason the Ducks will be anywhere near the top ten this year is the schedule they play... it's weak. The PAC ten is weak.

Blah blah blah blah blah.

All that conference chest thumping is the most retarded thing about college football. It's boring. In the NFL fans just root for their team, they don't give a fuck about division pride or whatever.

Guess we'll see how things pan out at season's end.

dimfizz 09-19-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav
Blah blah blah blah blah.

I cannot argue with that. :thumbsup

srockhard 09-19-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806435)

Personally, I think both Alabama and A&M could beat Oregon. Along with Clemson and Georgia. The only reason the Ducks will be anywhere near the top ten this year is the schedule they play... it's weak. The PAC ten is weak.

First off it is the PAC 12 now. And I'm pretty sure there are 5 teams from the Pac 12 that are ranked in the top 25 in the nation which is the same amount of teams in top 25 from SEC...I'd take Mariota over McCarron everyday of the week but I'm not a huge Ducks fan...I'm a UW Huskies fan and so far this year it looks like their program is gaining some respect.

kane 09-20-2013 12:02 AM

Living in Oregon you can't go anywhere without seeing Duck green and yellow. Suddenly half the state is dressing like they went to school there.

geedub 09-20-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19806520)
Living in Oregon you can't go anywhere without seeing Duck green and yellow. Suddenly half the state is dressing like they went to school there.

bandwagon kids ftw

adendreams 09-20-2013 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806176)
I see nothing on the Ducks schedule that would NOT allow them to go undefeated. However, if Alabama gets thru it's 10X's harder schedule without a defeat, forget it.

Alabama almost got beat by TA&M (Johnny Manziel), but won with a high powered offense. How would the Ducks do Johnny Manziel? Or any of the other stronger teams in the SEC?

If it comes down to the Pac 12 or the SEC, which do you think would win?

Smart move by Oregon to take on a weaker schedule this year - knowing pretty much that if they run the table they will make the title game - BUT they cant lose..not one game or their out of the hunt. Can they beat Alabama will be the big question all season as long and if Ore stays undefeated this will be the first TRUE match-ups of 2 best teams of any title game in many years.

Mutt 09-20-2013 02:28 AM

Not a fan of college football but I did watch the Texas Alabama game to see Manziel. College football is basketball in cleats. Up and down the field we go ..... weeeeeeeeeeeeee

I also hate the big schools beating up on the weak. Team sports are supposed to be about competition, there's no competition when the scores are 70-12. Top teams should play each other more often, there should be an 'A' division and 'B' division within conferences, top couple of teams in 'B' division move up to the 'A' division the next year, worst teams in 'A' division move down.

Rather see a team like Ohio State play home and home games against Michigan and Wisconsin than the University of Buffalo, San Diego State and Florida A&M - pointless games.

dimfizz 09-20-2013 02:31 AM

OK, I get the PAC 10 & the PAC 12 mixed up. Which one is the colleges?

dimfizz 09-20-2013 03:11 AM

Where the F*** did you come from? You snuck up behind me...

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Originally Posted by Mutt
I also hate the big schools beating up on the weak. Team sports are supposed to be about competition, there's no competition when the scores are 70-12. Top teams should play each other more often, there should be an 'A' division and 'B' division within conferences, top couple of teams in 'B' division move up to the 'A' division the next year, worst teams in 'A' division move down.

Spoken like a typical loser. "If one is better than the other", we must bring everyone down to the loser level. So everybody can be a loser. Because in sports... it's all about "not beating up on the weak".

In other words, we all have to be weak.

bushwacker 09-20-2013 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806435)


Back to the point, are you're saying the Ducks could beat most of the teams in the SEC?
Probably not. If the Oregon Ducks where in the SEC they would be 3rd at best.

Personally, I think both Alabama and A&M could beat Oregon. Along with Clemson and Georgia. The only reason the Ducks will be anywhere near the top ten this year is the schedule they play... it's weak. The PAC ten is weak.

No what I was saying is the oregon's offense would do the same too a&m. FYI, clemson is in the ACC, and it's the PAC 12. :error

kane 09-20-2013 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806626)
Where the F*** did you come from? You snuck up behind me...



Spoken like a typical loser. "If one is better than the other", we must bring everyone down to the loser level. So everybody can be a loser. Because in sports... it's all about "not beating up on the weak".

In other words, we all have to be weak.

The problem is with college football the school actually has a lot of say in who they play. There are a handful of games that the NCAA doesn't schedule and leaves it up to the school to pick their opponents. So the big schools with plenty of money will pay small schools $500k to play them. The small schools show up, knowing they are going to get their brains smashed in, play, lose badly and collect a check. They play 3-4 of those per year and it pays for the sports programs for those school.

If they really wanted a competitive system they would divide the schools up by budget or they would use some kind of ranking system so that little school that the big, great teams play each other every week, not just a few times per year.

Mutt 09-20-2013 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimfizz (Post 19806626)
Where the F*** did you come from? You snuck up behind me...



Spoken like a typical loser. "If one is better than the other", we must bring everyone down to the loser level. So everybody can be a loser. Because in sports... it's all about "not beating up on the weak".

In other words, we all have to be weak.

No, my point is the opposite. You play the best to be the best week in week out. These lopsided NCAA matchups are like an NBA team playing an NBDL team, a Premier League soccer club playing a Third Division club, a heavyweight fighting a lightweight fighter.

deltav 09-20-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19806532)
Smart move by Oregon to take on a weaker schedule this year - knowing pretty much that if they run the table they will make the title game

Except it doesn't quite work that way. Teams to get to pick their own nonconference sked provided they can find willing opponents, but this is done many years in advance so you can only guess how the matchup will be when it actually happens. For example the Tennessee game was the 2nd of a home-and-home first scheduled in 2004 or 2005, when TN was an SEC team a few years off a National Championship and still often finishing with 10-3 or 11-2 records. At the time it looked like a strong opponent for Oregon, no one could predict they'd be so mediocre now. So the weak 2013 nonconference schedule is more coincidence.

But I do hate the paycheck games against overmatched small FCS schools, those are indeed boring as hell. However, they are also essential for the small schools to fund their teams - they bring in sometimes over $500000 per game which is a huge chunk of the budget on that level.

adendreams 09-20-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19807272)
Except it doesn't quite work that way. Teams to get to pick their own nonconference sked provided they can find willing opponents, but this is done many years in advance so you can only guess how the matchup will be when it actually happens. For example the Tennessee game was the 2nd of a home-and-home first scheduled in 2004 or 2005, when TN was an SEC team a few years off a National Championship and still often finishing with 10-3 or 11-2 records. At the time it looked like a strong opponent for Oregon, no one could predict they'd be so mediocre now. So the weak 2013 nonconference schedule is more coincidence.

But I do hate the paycheck games against overmatched small FCS schools, those are indeed boring as hell. However, they are also essential for the small schools to fund their teams - they bring in sometimes over $500000 per game which is a huge chunk of the budget on that level.

Good info - thanks!

adendreams 11-07-2013 07:43 PM

Stanford is up 14-0

Ducks title hunt could end tonight...but smart money would having them scoring 30 points in 2nd half

Joshua G 11-07-2013 08:03 PM

this thread is not complete without adding florida state to the conversation. That team is the real deal this season.

mozadek 11-07-2013 08:12 PM

This thread is rather presumptuous, the Ducks wont be playing in the national title game, let alone win it.

adendreams 11-07-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 19865251)
This thread is rather presumptuous, the Ducks wont be playing in the national title game, let alone win it.

the pundits were all saying that the ducks will certainly be in the title game if they run the table...gotta get by stanford now though

17-0 stanford at the half

kane 11-07-2013 08:25 PM

Not looking good for them right now, but they have the team that can score enough to win this game in the second half.

mineistaken 11-07-2013 08:36 PM

Muricaville Handeggers are going to take it this year.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-07-2013 09:18 PM

23-Zip going into the 4th...

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...40019596_n.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...play_image.jpg

Go Trees!

:stoned

ADG

adendreams 11-07-2013 09:55 PM

aint over yet - 1 possession game

adendreams 11-07-2013 10:01 PM

well Stanford got very lucky time ran out, and they got a squeaky 6 point win - 2 more minutes of game time they would have lost.

Oregons season is over, anything but title game total failure for the Ducks

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-07-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19865331)

aint over yet - 1 possession game

http://cdn.teamcococdn.com/jokes/664...ideo-games.jpg

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/def...019cba72eb.jpg

http://blog.timesunion.com/hottopics...ford-band2.jpg

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatrepo...nford-fans.jpg

Exciting finish... :)

:stoned

ADG

fitzmulti 11-07-2013 11:14 PM

"Quack" ;-(

mozadek 11-08-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19865338)
well Stanford got very lucky time ran out, and they got a squeaky 6 point win - 2 more minutes of game time they would have lost.

Oregons season is over, anything but title game total failure for the Ducks

Even though I wanted Oregon to lose I wanted them to recover the last onside kick to see what happens.

stever 11-08-2013 02:14 AM

fucking shit man I took the ducks ml
the Oregon fucks

PornDiscounts-V 11-08-2013 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19807272)
Except it doesn't quite work that way. Teams to get to pick their own nonconference sked provided they can find willing opponents, but this is done many years in advance so you can only guess how the matchup will be when it actually happens. For example the Tennessee game was the 2nd of a home-and-home first scheduled in 2004 or 2005, when TN was an SEC team a few years off a National Championship and still often finishing with 10-3 or 11-2 records. At the time it looked like a strong opponent for Oregon, no one could predict they'd be so mediocre now. So the weak 2013 nonconference schedule is more coincidence.

But I do hate the paycheck games against overmatched small FCS schools, those are indeed boring as hell. However, they are also essential for the small schools to fund their teams - they bring in sometimes over $500000 per game which is a huge chunk of the budget on that level.

True that. You get bored watching the Ducks win 72 - 0 but then have to realize those other guys needed the money. It is like Fighters having to fight to pass another fighters stats and make some money knowing he is going to clobber you.

BaliPimp 11-08-2013 06:20 AM

Go Noles>>>--;;;-------;;;----->

scuba steve 11-08-2013 08:58 AM

i liked the guy crying in the third quarter, then getting knocked out of the game. next time don't give the other team bulletin board material


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