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McCain and Graham won't support strike without all out war
Republican Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham issued a joint statement that they want much more than just limited action against Syria.
?we cannot in good conscience support isolated military strikes in Syria that are not part of an overall strategy that can change the momentum on the battlefield, achieve the President?s stated goal of Assad?s removal from power, and bring an end to this conflict, which is a growing threat to our national security interests. Anything short of this would be an inadequate response to the crimes against humanity that Assad and his forces are committing. And it would send the wrong signal to America?s friends and allies, the Syrian opposition, the Assad regime, Iran, and the world ? all of whom are watching closely what actions America will take.? http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/..._id=&Issue_id= |
In todays news, McDonalds workers went on strike with the bizarrely unrelistic goal of doubling their pay because "life's unfair". In other news, hundreds of children were gassed to death in Syria, because it was a Thursday.
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I saw a few moments of McCain on Leno last night. I don't like Jay so can't watch it much before the urge to change channel kicks in. But I saw McCain say that Obama only wanted to make a token few strikes to appease Americans. Every chance he gets, jab, twist, jab some more.
When asked what he would do he said he would crater every runway, then said he would not use any troops. He would supply the rebels with weapons. I suppose he thinks it always works out great when America supplies weapons. Like to Iraq, to Afghanistan and to Iran. All shining examples of success. ? |
Sounds like Leno is funnier than ever
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McCain is a fool that has had his 10 mins long past run out. Graham is just a nut job that needs to go back to where ever the fuck he came from.
They are both prime examples as to why the Republican party is completely useless for anything but pointing and laughing at. |
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Biden has said we have incontrovertible evidence of where the missiles came from, when they came, where they landed and that it was chemical weapons. We could have struck at those locations long ago. It's all about appeasing people at this point and I can't say I'd blame anyone for now forcing people to declare where they stand even though I don't like it. People are bitching at Obama if he doesn't strike, the way he's spoken already, if he does strike, if he strikes alone, if he doesn't strike alone, if he strikes before asking congress, if he doesn't strike before asking congress. At least this way nobody can come back and say it was all him. Pretty shitty position to be in but at this point he's WELL schooled in how it's going to go down. Just imho. |
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He is asking congress because he has to. Not because he does not have the authority to strike on his own, but because he and Biden spent a great deal of time arguing that Bush was Hitler II and had no authority to do anything with the military without the consent of congress. Biden practiced constitutional law as did Obama. Obama tried to say something and not sound weak and it was an empty remark that of course was soon tested. Once it was tested, it was quite clear that he had no plan.. in fact, he hadn't thought about it past his "red line..." remark. “The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,” Obama 2007. Obviously the whole "President and the use of force/War Powers Act" stuff is not clear at all if no one can agree on it on either side of the aisle. But when it was Bush in the hot seat, they seemed to be pretty clear that the President using the military without taking it to Congress was an impeachable offense. Of course, today.... now that roles are reversed and its Obama that has to contemplate the use of military force.... not so much. |
if anybody posts after this, the consequences will be the same.
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is that what he is saying or is there actually a threat in syria to our national security interests? |
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But his ten years are up. |
Obama and Democrats Have Found a Friend: John McCain
Barack Obama, to hear his advisers tell it, has finally found The One he has been looking for: John McCain. “We have been looking literally for years for someone we can cut deals with, and finally someone has stepped up,” a White House official said. West Wing aides say they now talk with McCain roughly every other day. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...ccain-n1647826 |
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Obama may be the follow up to the "boy that cried wolf" -- or we have finally found Saddam's chemical weapons. The rumor, as I recall, was quite a few of Saddam's remaining SCUD missile launchers were transferred to the Syrians too ... |
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That's why we should think like a "liberal". And not just f*cking bomb places from rumours or when we hear "one side of the story". Besides that, wars are bad. But, that's just my opinion. |
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Sorry, no he doesn't have to ask before acting. War Powers Act, bro.
Watching Rand Paul now already saying the evidence we have is not enough for him to vote Yes. What a shocker. BTW, I'm liberal on social issues and very conservative on war and money. Again, nice try though, but dead wrong. |
Of course Russia and China magically "know it is rebels". I wonder how we know where they were launched, where they landed, that Sarin was used, that orders were sent out for gov. forces to use their gas masks. What is it that the Russians "know"? As compelling as that? We should drone whoever did it, not whoever we feel like. Hows that for liberal? lmfao
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"The president does not need congressional approval for limited military interventions, and the executive branch has not sought it in the past."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...fd5_story.html etc. Not worth debating, it's not required, but he wants it. And no matter what, he'll be doing the wrong thing, amirite? yawn edit: "The president called them into the Oval Office Friday night to tell them two things: that he's now decided to use military force, but also that he was reversing course and would seek congressional approval. His reasoning, according to officials who were in the room? He wants members on the record, rather than simply criticizing from outside whatever action he takes." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_16...on-the-record/ |
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McCain is now trying to cash the checks of the men whom have to do it today. |
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Funny how you think 2 nations well known for controlling and restricting the press is where you get your best, unbiased information just because they tell you what you want to hear. You do think like a liberal. |
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So why does the Kremlin back Assad so staunchly? |
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At least I can put 2+2 together and see that the Russians aren't "cleaning up" in muslim countries. Why all these wars? Is it really worth it? Too see people suffer? |
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From what I've heard before from news. I don't know a lot about Russia. It's seldom something written in the news about them, here. Where I live. More than the anti gay laws. Of course. That was quite huge in the news, here. |
the cold war was never ended. perestoika put it on hold.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War They were having trouble with radical muslim groups. In their country. USA are having trouble with "other" muslim countries. Big difference? I'm not a russian fan boy or somthing like that. I just try to be as unbiased, as possible. And try to see things for what they are. And I'm not from the USA. |
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Every nation is acting in its own best interests and biased towards its own interests. Everything they say and do is going to be biased towards their own interests and political/military/economic goals and objectives. That does not however change the simple fact that a nation gassed over 1000 innocent people. What to do about it? There are no good answers. The worst answer of all of the bad answers is "do nothing". |
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Surely, the best thing you can do in such a situation is to go and murder more people by dropping bombs all over the place, in this case, Syria. Like some f*cking lunatic. And, you've yet to quote me on the facts that I think wars are bad. You just quote me like you see fit, and what suits your "world view". |
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