Iraq has agreed to disarm it's Al Samoud missles. Bush says fuck you.
 

http://www.msnbc.com/news/842500.asp?vts=022820031310

Not exactly. But he did say this.


?MY ATTITUDE about Saddam Hussein is that if he had any intention of disarming, he would have disarmed,? President Bush said in an interview with USA Today. He added: ?We will disarm him now.?

Who would expect something different.

You guys give far more credit to Saddam Hussein for telling the truth than the President of the US...yeah sure they have both lied but man you've got to choose who you're backing here a bit more carefully.

Hussein just claimed to Dan Rather the other night that these missles did NOT violate any UN Resolution and there was no need to disarm them.

If he didn't think so then, why would he really think so now...sure he can talk it, but the man hasn't proven he can be trusted at all.

if you read saddams declaration iraq claims it doesn't know how to destroy them. LOL


No matter what happens he is fucked, we don't have 200,000+ troops over there for nothing....

Bush thinks he's John Wayne and Bruce Willis wrapped into one.

Iraq has never attacked any Western country. The only "Friend" of the West he attacked was Israel with a publicity stunt sending SCUD missiles aimed at Israel in an attempt to drag them into the war and raise feelings amongst fellow Muslim countries.

He has however murdered millions of his own country men, Iraniaqns, Kuwaitis and Muslims. They do not seem so keen to rmove him

He does not nor will he ever have the capability to harm the West except as a terrorist, this war will not stop terrorism. It will probably encourage it.

The US could take out his entire army in a couple of months if he was ever stupid enough to try anything. 9/11 and Afghanistan showed what the West can and will do. He is aware of that.

So can someone explain why the West vis so hell bent on pushing for war? Especially when the N. Koreans are using the situation.

The BBC said that the missiles that DID violate the the Resolution were stripped of all payload, guidance systems and warheads.

So technically the missiles, in fighting trim, did NOT violate the Resolution. But if you strip out a few hundred pounds, aim them on a perfectly parabolic trajectory and fire away, I guess they did.

My point being is that he feels justified either way...so why would he honor this latest attempt at appeasement?

if iraq didnt have oil and/or bush didnt own oil companies, we wouldnt be over there.

It's about reforming the whole damn Middle East. Why can't people just look past Saddam and just realize that. That part of the world has been a mess for decades and it's getting out of hand. It's 2003 and they're all still fighting religous wars and bickering about things that happened years and years ago. Western Countries have tried to leave the the situation alone for decades thinking that Middle East Governments will sort things out but they haven't and it's just going to get worse. September 11th just shows how the Middle East is getting out of hand and something should be done about it as we move on into a new century. How can society move forward when everyday brings another suicide bomber killing innocent people for the sake of "Allah". Middle Eastern governments don't want to shape up and do something about it so we're stepping in.

Then why didn't we take the oil the last time we were there?

hell yeah.

no offense to any veterans, i have great respect for anyone willing to fight for this country... but did we really accomplish anything last time we were there? i mean what was the end result... sadam is still around... he has more shit than ever... what did we accomplish?

I have explained as has many others, you apparently do not accept the explanations and prefer your own views. So be it.

Other than getting them out of Kuwait and enforcing the UN resolution at the time, then cleaning up the oil field mess not much else.

This is why we're going back because the fucker won't honor the agreements that were made to leave him in power.

But the point was you claimed we were going there for oil, this is what people claimed pre desert storm, we didn't take their oil then so why would we take it now?

never said we wanted THEIR oil... look at gas prices... can u imagine how much more bush is worth right now, as opposed to when he got elected? his domestic oil stocks, values, companies, etc... are all worth a lot more now, than before he decided saddam wasnt playing nice.

So in order to make some extra cash for the oil companies our President almost cripples our economy by creating all this fear of war...okay...so now where do we go from here?

Kinda hard to buy gas at $2.00 a gallon if you don't have a job.

Ironhorse

NICE! You make that?

:thumbsup

true. not too logical. just makes me wonder if things would be this way if he didnt own oil companies.

plus, im pretty sure that this country has always had a period of growth after every war...

Regardless the oil price is up.

MJ can't play for the Wizards till he sells it, people that own companies can't sell stock before they announce something that is going to kill it, but our President can have interest in things he can directly effect.

thats bs. vietnam had no oil. cuba had no oil. north korea no oil either.

You guys keep thinking about this oil as a day to day thing, like what will the price be next week, but think 30 years from now, Iraq will be dominating global oil production. I'm sure a few US politicians are asking what kind of Iraq do we want in 30 years? Oil money in 2030 will buy alot of weapons real fast, don't ignore the fact that you can mine uranium right next door in Iran.

two interesting headlines on cnn.com last night. Dubya's re-election ratings are now below 50% and Saddam says he'll disarm on Saturday. Now bush says fuck you.... wait, why are we going to war again?
"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." ?George W. Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

Bush's views on Iraqi soldiers and his plead for them to lay down their weapons, b/c "When Iraq is liberated, you will be treated, tried and persecuted as a war criminal." ?George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 22, 2003

Persecuted?

Damn my state for fucking up the last election!

More Bushisms...

And we're not currently attacking any of them... coincidence? :winkwink:

We liberated Kuwait. That was what we went there for and that's what we did. At least that was the goal on the surface, the one given to the American people. I'm sure there was a lot more going on behind the scenes, much like what we all think is happening now.

what if bush go to war, remove saddam and then dont find any weapons of mass destruction?

after all this he better find a nuke or two!

Oh I'm sure there is strategy involved here that would give us more strength in the Middle East, but why would we not want that.

As has been posted either on this thread or one of the other Iraq v America threads the Middle East and it's occupants, not all of them but a lot of them have shown that they can't play nicely or share their toys.

While the rest of the world moves into a new century, there exists those that have power in some of those other countries clinging to centuries past.

What we don't need is a bunch of fucking fundamentalists whether they are Muslim Clerics in Iran, Palestinian bombers in Israel, or Bubbas in West Virginia fucking up progress.

Things wouldn't be this way if those ass monkeys hadn't flown planes into our buildings and killed 2000+ people. They stirred the pot a little too much this time.

China is next... Does Bush have a son yet?

You took the Kuwait oil. Now is the time to get Iraq's oil deposit, second largest in the world. Once you control the flow and distribution of oil in the middle east, your dream of ruling the world has been realized. I am happy to be Canamerican! :thumbsup

I know you didn't just put September 11th in the argument over Iraq. Damn propoganda works like a charm. Ok just for the record, Bin Laden is the one that had planes flown into the WTC. We already went after him. He's still alive.

Well, at least when Sadamm gets kicked out of Iraq he can get a job modeling for a "pregnant fetish" site.

I don't know weather I should laugh at you or cry for you.

digi,
I agree they better find something on Iraq. However, if they found 3000 tons of anthrax the world would say it was planted. It's a no win situation as far as that goes.

I was waiting for you to chime in. Anyone harboring terrorists... I know you'll never get it but I thought I would respond anyways.

You'll never wear me out with the propaganda bullshit, but keep trying it is amusing.

Kuwait exports the majority of its oil to Asian countries, especially Japan. If we wanted the oil wells there, then we would have taken them after we put the fires out from Saddam's scorched earth cowardly retreat last time.

woodman,
What the fuck are you posing facts for. It's so much easier to blame the US and except it for fact. Also didn't you see the Rather interview?? Iraq won that war.... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Who gives a flying fuck about his missles, they couldn't reach anything the US cares about anyway..It's the Bio he's got that a pint of could be dropped in a building or in a water supply that's what's important!
Remember the nerve gas in the Tokyo subway?
The next 911 should be in France or Germany maybe that would wake a few people up!
The only people that ass in Iraq is fooling are the Countrys that continue to trade and make a buck from him..
I'm not for War, it costs every American money that could be spent on people in THIS country, and why we keep supporting half the world is beyound me!

getting through to some of these guys is like trying to herd cats.

Misinformed. Everyone! Think about it, lets get inside the head of Sadaam Hussein. First of all we know that he's one product away from a Nuclear Weapon. We don't know when he plans on using it and why is he???

9/11 Was the push on the wrong country. We are now in preventive stages for the US and so we are taken care of the big problem before we get caught with our thumbs up our asses again.

Secondly, Sadaam is funding terrorism we don't need to prove that you just need to believe it! Always hated America, Heres some money go and Terrorize them!

Finally we've saved in some way or another every damn country in the world. They should know we aren't out to take over the world. If we were we would have already done it!:thumbsup

Did Bush really say "fuck you"?

By the way...
The 2 missiles found will be destroyed as another attempt to play with the UN.

What I want to know is if the Iraqi's are asking how to destroy the missiles then where the hell are the thousands of other stockpiles they supposedly destroyed!

lol no.

So what one Muslim does give you the right to do what you wish with the rest of them?

I think you will find that was their argument over 9/11. Americans support Israel therefore all Americans are guilty.

You've got yourself a dandy question there......

:winkwink:

Nukes aren't going to turn up....

As far as anything else, I'll make a guess that after the war, there won't be any of it left to worry about.

At this point I'm rooting for Saddam. Anyone else?

Why don't you go sit next to him for a few weeks??

Pussy

Whatever you say simpleton. If issues were that easy the world would be a wonderful place. Maybe it is like that were you are? Nice and simple? No complexities?

You were the one complaining about a white guy getting searched instead of the two muslims behind you in the airport in a different thread. Stop talkin' out of both sides of your mouth. You're hilarious.

Most countries would consider attempting to assassinate their leader an act of war..."an attack" in your words.

If he develops weapons of mass destruction, there is a very plausible fear that he has (or may form) alliances with terrorists who would use them. The use of such weapons on his own citizens, as you so rightly pointed out, shows that human life has no particular value for him.

Since 9/11, the idea of stopping any further such attacks before they start has become VERY popular. Simply retaliating for a 9/11 that could have been prevented won't get a president re-elected.

We live in an age where an nuclear device can be carried in a suitcase. A nuclear explosion, unlike a car or truck bomb will vaporize the evidence, making it a perfect weapon of terror. (After the explosion in Oklahoma City, a serial number on the axle of the truck led to the arrest of the instigators.)