Streammate Doesn't Like Me Anymore - Who Wants My Cam Business?
 

So I had to change the domain name for my White Label with Streammate and apparently they don't want to do it! They say I'm not sending enough joins per month (60) so they can de-commission the current White Label but will not give me another one. Huh.

Funny, Streammate didn't have a "60 joins per month then you get a White Label" requirement when I setup my original White Label. They said: "Please feel free to promote Streamate and if your signups increase to at least 60 per month we can give you a Whitelabel."

Well, please feel free to bite my balls Streammate! :D

Who else wants my cam business? Members Area-only links. Or does every cam site have a 60 joins a month requirement for White Labels?

You've been Manwinnnnnnnnned! :thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I can't understand streamate stats. I get around 200 uniques per day from google in one whitelabel (1 month so far), but the stats say all Zero in everything. Zero Zero Zero...

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link in sig :)

I will buy your existing Streamate white label. Hit me up on skype (srockhard) or email info at nmmllc .com

Co-sign. Sam is good people.

And you already know what it is with http://datinggold.com

:thumbsup

switch it over to Video Secrets

they've been converting and retaining for me for years

1 m in Streamate. Just sayin

Do you work for them? They haven't answered tickets submitted 10 days ago. :Oh crap

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we got what you need :)

Just curious- you're sending 60 free membership joins and I presume they aren't spending much money? Or you're sending 60 paid joins?

Thanks everyone!
The problem is I need to change the domain name associated with my White Label.
I'd like to keep it but apparently Streammate is taking this opportunity to tell me to go fuck myself.

Therefore, I will need to find another cam program.
(I cannot sell my white label as the domain itself must be retired.)


No, not sending 60 joins but I AM sending paid joins and making a couple hundred a week with the White Label. I was planning on ramping up my promotion but then this domain name change occurred so now, apparently, I'm out with Streammate. LOL Ah well!

It's uniques on the join page for the main site, so that's probably true for white labels as well (I don't have one).

Ask them and find out.

Do you ever stop whining?

Let me guess, tm violation?

When it comes to business and making more money? Nope.

60 sales is not enough? :disgust

whats the domain?

Your sales do not equal the resources it takes to switch on there end, pretty simple to figure out.

Streamate gets :thumbsup :thumbsup from me.

That's probably it and I do understand that - it just seems they were like 'ok fuck you bye!' because I needed to make a change. I'd still promote them but not after their attitude like I was bothering them. LOL

And again, they setup a white label toot suite (or is it 'toot sweet'?) not long ago but now seem less accommodating. LOL

Gotta love this "biz"!

VS converts great for me. They also offer API. I don't think any cam company offers API

Thanks guys! :thumbsup

Sign up with us and let me know if I can help with anything. WLs take 5 minutes to set up. jeff.vsmedia on skype or my first name at videosecrets [dot] com

Streamate gets :thumbsup :thumbsup from me as well

Maybe we can work something out Peabody

thx tofu

I still don't fully understand. SM wants you to change your domain name? Why? ...Why don't you just do what they are asking and then sell it to me? I'll even give you a domain if you'd like.

what does that mean?

He was spelling it with 2m's

No dude - I wanted to change the domain name, not Streammate. Streammte wants to de-commission the white label (turn it off) instead of just changing the domain name, like I wanted. And instead of giving me a NEW white label with the domain name I need they said promote us til you get to 60 Joins a month THEN you can have another white label even tho they didn't tell me that when I setup the first white label.

Understand?

I understand.

1. It is correct that you are not sending enough to make it worth their cost. They are incredibly numbers driven, which has pros and cons when it comes to service, but is critical when it comes to earnings. You are a business man and as such you should not hold this against them, imo, at least.

2. It appears that you think it should be an easy fix but since that is not the case it is no reason to lambaste them, refer to reason #1.

3. We do a lot more numbers than that on cams and consider doing a wl with them but know that the bar of entry is very high. We accept it and move to attain those merits not hold it against them for setting the bar so high. Think about what your 60 joins a month means compared to the close to 60 a minute that Manwin probably is sending. Compute the service expense to deal with that kind of business by way of ratio to what it costs to do special services for your account. Doing a lot less for greater return or doing a lot more for less return. Which would you pick?

4. We test cams frequently and push traffic accordingly. Streamrate and VS are consistently the best for us. To be walking away from what you have with them right now under your current label should be a very good reason, like you had to give up the domain over a mark dispute or something involuntary, imo.

5. Like every company out there, including the almighty Peabody, they are free to change terms of service on a whim without making even an announcement about it if they so choose since in most terms it is up to the client to maintain awareness of any changes.

3 responses:

1. There are little to zero 'associated costs' for my account as all I've ever done is put up a standard I-Frame and never contacted anyone except how to generate more revenue. They responded with some great ideas I was about to implement then I had to change the domain name (see #3 below). So the "cost" of doing this, in my case, is minimal. I do understand numbers and don't necessarily hold it against them, as in hold a grudge or think they're bad people. But, in the end, Streammate is not the only cam game in town.

2. With all this talk of "porn is dying!" going around you'd think companies would want to keep people who were sending consistent joins and interested in sending more instead of so easily blowing them off.

3. Your Reason #4 is the reason for the domain name change. It is not my choice. So this is costing me about $12,000 a year from Streammate but I'm hopeful some other cam program will net me that and more in the future. All good. :)

A response response...

1. That is all you have to do but does not quantify what they have to do on their side to set up and service a wl; still, you are right they may not be the only game in town but they are the best so it is a bummer you have to be in the situation.

2. Porn is not dying for Streamrate, in fact, I will wager it has never been better. Last visit I made to their offices I was blown away and they have only gotten bigger since then. (btw, last I heard they never sold to Manwin either. ) I actually believe there is a chance Boday is or will be the first adult biz billionaire and is just totally low key about it. They are highly sophisticated about operations, they would not say "forget 12k a year" without a very solid reason, like "a wl costs us (X) to set up then service so we need it to produce (y) to be profitably sustainable - earning at least (z) per month to make it worthwhile.

3. Sorry to hear that but if you violated a mark then you would get a big tsk tsk and a karma is a bitch from me but I hope that isn't the case. In any event, I wish you luck and urge you caution and hope you find a suitable replacement. I recommend VS. I know it is easier to do wl's with them now but back in the day we had the same issues - volume had to be there for them to budge and they were and are our pals and comrades in the Acacia fight. So in that respect nothing really has changed, just business as usual.

you better try www.bongacash.com

I misread your thread and thought you were trying to sell your cam biz...as in getting rid of it...best of luck MrP

give us a try webcams.com we also offer white labels to our affiliates, please feel free to contact me by email or ICQ.

Another vote for Video Secrets here.

Streamate is respected for sure by reading responses here; imagine what the comments if same was made by AWE :)

Streamate rocks I love it. I work there exclusively now. I hope you can work it out and still send ur traffic.

No problem at all. Thanks for the kind words. :)


Unfortunately I need to drop the domain the white label is on otherwise I would continue with Streammate. But they don't seem interested in even discussing it, which is surprising, but there ya go. LOL

The mark issue came up unexpectedly. It was not something done deliberately on my part. More will be revealed soon (sorry to be cryptic LOL).

Again, just to be clear: I am NOT bashing Streammate! I'm just looking for alternatives now. :)

I'm sorry to hear that you're having troubles with your existing White Label. If you're looking for other cam solutions, ClickCash does offer a white label of iFriends with no minimums required for joins. I'd be happy to discuss that option with you if you'd like!

~Emily

Just for the record, most times when you tell someone to "bite your balls" it is one of two things... you are into S&M or you are using it in the derogatory sense. It would be easy to assume that you are bashing them a little in this case. As the kids say these days... "just saying". :winkwink:

Not sure if it means anything but Streamate was recently sold/changed/moved to a company called ICF technology Inc in Seattle, WA.
ICF Technology Inc.
2019 3rd Avenue, Seattle, WA 98121

206-374-0374


ICF does have Manwin ties and is likely manwin owned so not sure what they are up to.

Are you an attorney, politician or a teacher?

If not I think you missed your calling
:thumbsup

I am interested to buy it off you

And we need to talk :upsidedow

try chaturbate.com

Well, I guess you got me there man! I did bring up ball-biting. LOL But that was more of a 'ok fine whatever' kinda thing not a mean-spirited call to action.

Besides, my balls are so tiny I doubt anyone could even find them to nibble on. Just sayin'. :D

They have had the new white label rule in place quite a while before that sale was finally closed.

As far as I know they only count hits to the signup page.

Streamate old company: Accretive Technology Group Inc/Flying Crocodile (FCI), address: 2019 3rd Avenue, Seattle.

Perhaps you should have learned that when manwin buys something it is filed in a few places (ireland) and the whois ends up with certain same companies manwin really owns :)

1) Its old news that they have ownership stake in Streamate.com
2) The company name changes happened with every affiliate being notified and being required to take certain actions a couple months ago
3) You're a fucking moron

I know they own streamate I broke the story a year ago or more...but this change is VERY recent as in the last few weeks.