Saw Elysium : Why do movie makers treat audiences like idiots?
 

I just saw Elysium. Cool looking flick that contains some decent action but SO MANY TECHNICAL ERRORS that it just killed the movie for me. Oh that and the story was lame. Save your money and wait it to play on Syfy.

what kind of technical errors? I can't think of any.

Typical Hollywood movie these days. Even Matt couldn't hold up such a lame story. Gave it a good shot though.

So many.... [Warning : Spoilers]

- Elysium is a giant spinning space station in geostationary orbit which is 22,236 miles straight up, but it takes spaceships that take off from the ground only about 3 minutes to get there.

- This would also mean that those little transport ships would have to travel a little more than 7,400 miles per hour. Even if they could do it they would have to accelerate at over 82 miles per second per second (about 3.74 g's) until they got half-way there and then decelerate at -82 miles per second per second to land. While the rebels could handle it the passengers couldn't. Yes of course this is just a sci-fi movie but I guess I was expecting 2001 a space odyssey.

- Elysium has an atmosphere yet nothing to contain it. This shown not once but twice as space ships "crash land" onto its "surface". Without a seal for its "sky" the atmosphere would escape.

- Elysium is always show "flat" or just about parallel to the earth. As the residents live on the inside-edge of a spinning wheel, sunlight would be coming in front the far edge of the wheel but instead it is always "overhead". The sun also never appears to change directions despite the spin of the wheel.

- Though not in the movie it is established that the residents of Elysium have "Med Pods" to cure all disease in every home (Because of increased exposure to radiation from space maybe?). If they are cheap enough to have in homes why aren't they on earth? They are cheap enough to make after all and even if they weren't it would still be much cheaper to pay to use it on earth than to fly to space to use it.

- "Re-Boot Elysium?" "To make all earthlings civilians"? "So everyone can be cured?" And the "code" is in someone's brain? That can be copied? That kills the host after it is copied? And that eventually just looks like random characters? Oh and they dress-up like Robots too. STUPID!

Elysium is a nice-looking movie for sure but check your brain at the door if you want to enjoy it.

Luckily only 5% of the population can spot these errors :)

It's a movie dude, chill

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wtf? :helpme :error

You mean Elysium isn't a documentary?!!

I think Prince answered his own question.

you were there right?

Do you bring a calculator to every movie you see? What are your calculations on the millenium falcon doing the kessel run in under 12 parsecs? If you tell me the math isn't right on that I am going to go burn my dvds right now.

lolz, another damon smash! hahahqh, he prolly phoned it in as per usual, just mail him the $20m check.


he;s part of the problem, not part of the solution. this movie would have been infinitely better with a better actor who isn't cast in evrey 3rd movie hollywood cranks out.

the problem is many movie execs think a *blockbuster* like this needs to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator in order to sell enough tickets to make a profit, consequently we get watered down scripts like this with high-visibilty over-cast actors to get more seats filled. too bad.

Please give us a detailed breakdown on the technical errors of Star Wars while you're at it.

Because most audiences are idiots.

Yeah, your a rare breed, Prometheus had more holes and the worst storey line I ever saw, yet people loved it, glad i'm the 1% above the rest when it comes to common sense. To like the movie you would have to ignore obviously garbage .

Or you know you could enjoy the movie for what it is SCIENCE "FICTION".
Fiction is the form of any work that deals, in part or in whole, with information or events that are not real, but rather, imaginary and theoretical?that is, invented by the author.

According to the numbers you stated wouldn't the transport ships have to be traveling at a little over 444,000 miles per hour to make the trip in 3 minutes?

:2 cents: :2 cents: i was just about to say that!

Welcome !

Because a high percentage of people are idiots or lack common sense. :2 cents:

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It is actually 19 minutes to get to the station, as clearly stated by Jodi Foster's character.

I liked it. While not a sequel to "District 9", it is thematically consistent and if you are watching for entertainment purposes and not for fact checking, and you liked District 9 then you are probably going to like it.

It is a movie full of racism which is what I thought you were going to say. It took about 19 minutes to get to Elysium IIRC. I did not like the fact that Kruger did not die when his head was half blown off but that is about the only problem I had with it all.

I love sci fi, I hate HUGE plot holes!

Good point. All or most of the movies have unreal things, thats why they are movies. I mean Terminator is also not possible, is that an error? Its fiction movie, the whole story itself is "an error".

Suspension of disbelief - most cinema goer's aren't going to be concerning themselves with the math behind space travel etc.

It's entertainment, not a physics test.

But, let me ask...
How much chuck could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck chuck?

Next you'll be telling me lightsabers aren't real.

A really smart person is someone who knows stuff, but knows when to forget that stuff for 2 hours and enjoy some entertainment.

Canadians have become the new Britons on this board?

Qft. Word

Sorry about your Autism :(

Matt Damon spilled a box of 200 matches, and the correct number of isosceles triangles were formed, which would be about 10. But two of them were technically trapezoids so the movie sucks.

I can only imagine the shit you gave the poor concession kid who improperly buttered your popcorn.

the movie was stupid :2 cents: what happened to him saw it coming. now make a part 2 :1orglaugh people will go see it.

I don't remember is saying anything about being in geostationary orbit. Looked more like low earth orbit. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to see details of it from Earth if it was that high up.

Atmosphere doesn't escape because of the artificial gravity created by the wheel spinning. Also the walls are high and curved slightly inwards.

The sunlight I think is artificially created. That's not that the sun at all.

The Med Pod technology is deliberately withheld from the general population. Only Elysium citizens can use it. Yes they are evil.

When it is rebooted it made everyone a citizen of Elysium. Most of the system is automated so now everyone gets Med Pods. Max's brain implant was not designed to hold that much data. They said it was 50Xbits. Also it could not be fully downloaded to anywhere but the Elysium core as the code was protected. They are not dressed like robots, they are robots.

The International Space Station is in low Earth orbit. About 250 miles up.

+1. Hollywood knows who's buying the tickets.

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i didnt get why they didnt heal children. why didnt they have a healing machines on earth to heal workers? movie didnt have too many details on some things. if max had a label to get healed why didnt they heal him? :helpme

Quiet, dog.

was looking forward to it, saw it, thought it was crap

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Actually, a Parsec is a measurement of distance, not time. A parsec is equal to 3.08567758 × 1016 meters or about 3.25 light years. When Han said this quote, he technically got it wrong.

Star Wars nerds will say that he was talking about his piloting skills, suggesting that the "Kessel run" is a kind of obstacle course with more than one path to take to get to the end. A good pilot, maybe, could do that path in a shorter distance.

However Han clearly says its a "Fast Ship", and brags about doing the Kessel run in less than 12 Parsecs. In that case, he is either an idiot, or George Lucas made a GLARING TECHNICAL ERROR that still keeps me up at night. Doesn't it keep you up at night?

Arrghh..

Mark, I think it's fair to assume that you belong to the very small minority of physics/space geeks that went to see that movie. It's a very mainstream movie, while you were yelling "FALSE", 99% of the moviegoers went "WOW".

I am certain, however, that there will be lots of technical errors to discuss at an upcoming Trekkie convention. :winkwink:

We know.


Arrghhh!


The Death Star was a globe, not a spinning wheel. It could be argued that its gravity was from its own mass. However if this was true it would have been detectable from much further way. It would have required an enormous amount of energy to get from point A to point B. During deceleration it would have had to have converted all of that momentum into light and heat also making it detachable. It's proximity to the planets it attacks would have destroyed those planets without the need of an energy weapon, and -


You sir, are awesome and correct.

I hear you, but sometimes I want a little more SCIENCE in my Science Fiction. Salads once in a while instead of big macs are a good thing.

Yes you are right.

Sorry I must have missed that. In movie-time it takes them only a few minutes but ok lets say its 19 minutes. To travel 22,236 miles in 19 minutes you would have to go 70,218 miles per hour. To do it in 3 minutes and using Boziffous corrected math the ship would have to go 444,720 miles per hour.



Right. They can fix his face and yet can't fix the main character's brain. Yes they addressed when another character said it at one point but it was an over-dub and sounded like a weak attempt to fix a glaring pot hole to me.

I agree. I loved Man of Steel and comic book movies and all kinds of other flicks especially TREK flicks. Elysium just sucked thats all.

d'oh, snap.

Thank you.


Nah... don't get me wrong I love sci-fi movies... maybe I'm just tired of the "action" flicks and want something that stimulates my noggin. I have been hoping that Europa Report would come to threaters near here but haven't see it yet.

One movie I am REALLY looking forward to is 2014's INTERSTELLAR. Written by Chris Nolan (Inception) and KIP THORNE (GASP!). Finally, some brain candy.

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Almost as bad as Kubrick's work :2 cents:

I remember them saying it was a 16 minute flight

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That was the point of the movie. Life sucked unless you were rich enough to live up there.

I've read about kids like you; I just figured it was an urban legend.