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baddog 08-11-2013 04:58 PM

About to get real in Cairo
 
Watch for it

JFK 08-11-2013 05:12 PM

FOX ? :Graucho

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-11-2013 05:14 PM

Appears to be headed that way...

Quote:

Egypt Police To End Pro-Morsi Protests

When former Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi was ousted from power amid massive protests of his regime, his supporters took to the streets of Cairo to demand his reinstatement.

Come Monday morning, these pro-Morsi demonstrators will have to contend with Egyptian security forces who have been tasked with dispersing the tens of thousands of people staging the sit-ins. Mediators and some Egyptian officials have urged the police not to use force against the protestors, but the plan will move ahead at dawn even if it leads to more bloodshed in the streets.

About 300 people have been killed in clashes since Morsi was forcibly removed from office.

Quote:

Islamist militant group in Egypt says it was target of Israeli drone

An Islamist militant group said on Saturday four of its members were killed in an Israeli drone strike in Egypt's North Sinai region.

"Our heroes became martyrs during their jihadi duties against the Jews in a rocket attack on occupied lands," the Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis group said on a jihadist website.

Egyptian security sources said earlier that four Islamist militants were killed by a missile strike on Friday as they prepared to launch rockets at Israel.

It was not clear how the militant group determined that its members were the target of an Israeli drone strike.

Five security sources told Reuters the attack was carried out by Israel. But the Egyptian armed forces officially denied that was the case and an Israeli army spokeswoman in Jerusalem declined to comment on the incident.

The two countries have cooperated in tackling the threat from Islamist militants in Sinai in the past and neither seemed interested in creating a fuss over this case.
Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis criticized the Egyptian military for what it called its repeated cooperation with Israel.

The Egyptian military said two explosions took place at a site 2 miles west of the border and south of the city of Rafah on Friday afternoon.

The security sources in Sinai said an Israeli aircraft struck at the militants, killing four, after discovering they had planned to fire rockets into Israel.

One source said the Israeli aircraft had observed the militants preparing three rocket launch pads to hit Israel. It launched a missile, killing two men, then killed another pair who stepped up to the pads after the first strike.

However, an Egyptian army spokesman denied in a subsequent statement any Israeli role in the incident.

Militants based mainly in North Sinai near the border have escalated attacks on Egyptian security forces and other targets since July 3, when the army deposed Islamist President Mohammed Morsi and installed a new government.

The Sinai is largely demilitarized as part of the Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty of 1979 but Israel has approved troop reinforcements to combat the militants and arms smuggling by Palestinians into Gaza.

The desert peninsula has long been a security headache for Egypt and its neighbors. Large and empty, it also borders the Palestinian-ruled Gaza Strip and flanks the Suez Canal linking Asia to Europe. It is also home to nomad clans disaffected with rule from Cairo.

The Egyptian army said on Wednesday it had killed 60 militants in the Sinai Peninsula in the month since Morsi's overthrow.
http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i3Ivjcj9yp90.jpg

http://coffeeandmarkets.com/wp-conte...13-800x440.jpg

Ramadan is over so the gloves are off again. :uhoh

:stoned

ADG

globofun 08-11-2013 05:25 PM

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/55b/692...1337871415.jpg

baddog 08-11-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19755384)
FOX ? :Graucho

Al Jazeera. :thumbsup

and ADG nailed it; they were waiting for the end of Ramadan . . . but [I think I heard] there is another holiday coming up so it will be interesting to see if they (the army) act quickly or just get in position.

RandyRandy 08-12-2013 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19755407)
Al Jazeera. :thumbsup

and ADG nailed it; they were waiting for the end of Ramadan . . . but [I think I heard] there is another holiday coming up so it will be interesting to see if they (the army) act quickly or just get in position.

Next big holiday isn't until October 15-17 (Idul-Adha)

At least according to the NYC Alternate-side of the street Parking Calendar Holiday Schedule:thumbsup

http://http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/h...-parking.shtml

Barry-xlovecam 08-12-2013 06:44 AM

What is really horrid is the presence of children of the Brotherhood's pro-Morsi protesters at their sit-in encampments.

I guess child endangerment is part of their cause? I read that there have been 276 deaths attributed to the most recent political crisis.

The pro-Morsi protesters have expressed a willingness to become martyrs for their cause -- martyring their children too -- peaceful settlement doesn't seem a realistic possibility.

Eyeball 08-12-2013 11:43 AM

I'm off into cairo soon. Hope it chills out a bit.

lezinterracial 08-14-2013 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyeball (Post 19756249)
I'm off into cairo soon. Hope it chills out a bit.

30 dead. Hope you are staying clear of the pro-Mursi camps.

AllAboutCams 08-14-2013 02:24 AM

Stopping for a holiday? What a joke.

EddyTheDog 08-14-2013 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 19758225)
30 dead. Hope you are staying clear of the pro-Mursi camps.

Officially now its at 100 - Others are saying a 'lot' more...

Also I have heard that the Coptic's are having a hard time - They are burning churches etc. - Taking advantage of the general unrest.....

lezinterracial 08-14-2013 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19758264)
Officially now its at 100 - Others are saying a 'lot' more...

Also I have heard that the Coptic's are having a hard time - They are burning churches etc. - Taking advantage of the general unrest.....

That sucks. I visited Coptic Cairo once. Has a nice, little museum in there.

Juicy D. Links 08-14-2013 07:40 AM

fucked up situation over there

lucas131 08-14-2013 07:43 AM

great place for vacation ... i mean, not anymore, great success on killing their country! :upsidedow

Evil Chris 08-14-2013 07:43 AM

If you get CBC News now, it's probably the best coverage.

AllAboutCams 08-14-2013 07:44 AM

A sky news cameraman got killed today

Sid70 08-14-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19758446)
great place for vacation ... i mean, not anymore, great success on killing their country! :upsidedow

Back in 2006 a 2 story 120 square meter houses were on sale for $25k near Hurghada... Now free I assume.

lezinterracial 08-14-2013 10:36 AM



Looks like an Army Vehicle was pushed off an overpass here.

Tom_PM 08-14-2013 10:40 AM

So, which side am I supposed to support? Their government, or the protesters?

I hope they work it out and let us know quickly.

seXXXhub 08-14-2013 10:42 AM

those monkeys know nothing but trouble ...

lezinterracial 08-14-2013 10:43 AM

I support neither. I'm not educated enough on it and our media sucks.

Example of a fake rally.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b4_1375922321

Scott McD 08-14-2013 10:43 AM

Ha! It showed on the news here that people were blaming America for not stepping in.

I guess America is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't...

Tom_PM 08-14-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 19758695)
Ha! It showed on the news here that people were blaming America for not stepping in.

I guess America is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't...

That's what I'm talking about. :helpme

Jman 08-14-2013 11:07 AM

This is really bad, so many innocent and young lives dying...

_Richard_ 08-14-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19755377)
Watch for it

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/11/egyptian-police-to-break-up-pro-morsi-protest-camps-monday-sources-say/

got the fox news drop on everyone

Paul&John 08-14-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 19758694)
I support neither. I'm not educated enough on it and our media sucks.

Example of a fake rally.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b4_1375922321

lolz....

directfiesta 08-14-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 19758695)
Ha! It showed on the news here that people were blaming America for not stepping in.

I guess America is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't...

Well, expected to hear the US rep say :

'' Hazem el-Beblawi and the military must go '' as they said before ..

But, even with a military coup and against its own laws , the US is supporting the military regime ...

Democracy .... lol

baddog 08-14-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 19758449)
If you get CBC News now, it's probably the best coverage.

Al Jazeera :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19758454)
A sky news cameraman got killed today

At least two journalists now, and an Al Jazeera reporter was arrested.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 19758695)
Ha! It showed on the news here that people were blaming America for not stepping in.

I guess America is damned if it does, damned if it doesn't...

I haven't seen that even hinted at on AJ or RT

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19758798)
Well, expected to hear the US rep say :

'' Hazem el-Beblawi and the military must go '' as they said before ..

But, even with a military coup and against its own laws , the US is supporting the military regime ...

Democracy .... lol

You really like to misstate the facts. While I agree that it is fucked up that Obama is not calling a spade a spade and admit it is a coup, that is the Obama you think is so fucking great. Be that as it may, they are not supporting the military regime. :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 08-14-2013 12:36 PM

America is the evil that kept Mubarak in power or why America and/or the EU does not help to restore order -- it depends on who you ask.

Fighting and dying for your magical man-in-the-sky and his right Prophet is stupid.

The pro-Morsi protestors were warned for a week that their resistance protests would be brought to an end and their tent cities cleared out -- the Army brought out bulldozers and soldiers.

Egypt is a country of some 84 million, considering the last 2 years that many really haven't died as compared to a lot of other contested revolts, coup de ta, or whatever you want to call it.

Unfortunately, neither side calls it needless death.

Lykos 08-14-2013 04:45 PM

250+ dead ppl already :(

CAHEK 08-14-2013 05:10 PM

The Health Ministry said 235 civilians were killed and more than 2,000 injured, while Interior Minister Mohammed Ibrahim said 43 policemen died in the assault

baddog 08-14-2013 05:23 PM

Muslim Brotherhood has said over 2,000 dead . . . both sides lie about their numbers, I'd guess closer to 1,000 based on prior exaggerations.

$5 submissions 08-14-2013 05:29 PM

Muslim Bros = not ready for prime time

The best move for Egypt = Turkish style secular govt. They need an Egyptian version of Ataturk (minus the Armenian genocide of course).

Securalism a day keeps muslim extremism away

Phoenix 08-14-2013 05:38 PM

I remember when I used to watch aj and rt and some people here mocked me

directfiesta 08-14-2013 05:54 PM

'' They are killing their own people ... ''

http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/ima...73032232_8.jpg

Isn`t the USA against the '' killing your own people '' thing ????

Barry-xlovecam 08-14-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

By evening, the Egyptian Health Ministry said 235 civilians had been killed in violence across the country, and the Interior Ministry said 43 police officers had been killed. The number of injured was put at 900. But the large number of dead and critically injured Egyptians whom reporters for The New York Times saw moving through various makeshift field hospitals in Cairo indicated that the final death toll would climb much higher.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/15/wo...ast/egypt.html


Local television footage showed protesters streaming out of the Rabaa al-Adawiya sit-in Wednesday evening; some of them running with children, their hands held high in surrender, as security forces pushed further into the camp. Footage posted online also purported to show pro-Morsi demonstrators firing assault rifles.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/world/eg...4_story_1.html

The government insists people in the camp were armed. Television stations controlled by the state or its sympathizers ran footage of what appeared to be pro-Mursi protesters firing rifles at soldiers from behind sandbag barricades.

Reuters journalists and other Western media did not witness such incidents. The crowds appeared to be armed mainly with sticks, stones and concrete slabs against police and troops with rifles.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97C09A20130814
How did (or if) the pro-Morsi demonstrators kill that many armed policemen? With rocks and wooden clubs?

What do you think would happen if demonstrators killed 43 policemen in the USA or in Russia in one day?

Interestingly, the Chinese haven't said anything :upsidedow

baddog 08-14-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19759308)
How did (or if) the pro-Morsi demonstrators kill that many armed policemen? With rocks and wooden clubs?

You don't think pro-Morsi own guns?

MagicWand 08-14-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19759311)
You don't think pro-Morsi own guns?

pack your bags and go fight

baddog 08-14-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicWand (Post 19759313)
pack your bags and go fight

Why don't you go fuck yourself?

pornmasta 08-14-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicWand (Post 19759313)
pack your bags and go fight


Barry-xlovecam 08-14-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19759311)
You don't think pro-Morsi own guns?

The question was tongue-in-cheek rhetorical ... But the police are wearing body armor ...

I IM'd with a friend in Alexandria, Egypt a few hours ago and she says she is scared -- you can't blame her it's a mess there.

Gunfire from demonstrators









SilentKnight 08-14-2013 07:54 PM

The riots and killing won't last much longer.

Canada's foreign affairs minister John Baird is calling for calm.

It'll all be over soon. Baird has spoken.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/john-...late-1.1410556

directfiesta 08-15-2013 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19759419)
The riots and killing won't last much longer.

Canada's foreign affairs minister John Baird is calling for calm.

It'll all be over soon. Baird has spoken.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/john-...late-1.1410556

Oh good !

Now that he solved this, I heard he was moving on to the Israeli/Palestinian peace talk sessions; should be settled and signed in a few days :thumbsup :)

Phoenix 08-15-2013 07:14 AM

anywhere with too many of one religion in particular seems to be going to shit fast

i wonder what that is about

J. Falcon 08-15-2013 07:30 AM

Syria Part Duex

bronco67 08-15-2013 07:33 AM

When you look at the news footage, it's kind of scary. Thousands of men in the street, not a woman in sight. What else do they have to do besides create violent mobs?

Socks 08-15-2013 07:36 AM

They're fighting for.... a politician???

Barry-xlovecam 08-15-2013 08:22 AM

Quote:

[M]orsi has been under house arrests at an undisclosed location. Other Brotherhood leaders have been charged with inciting violence or conspiring in the killing of protesters.

In his televised address, el-Beblawi (*military appointed interim president) said the government could not indefinitely tolerate a challenge to authority that the 6-week-old protests represented.

"We want to see a civilian state in Egypt, not a military state and not a religious state," he said.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...lence/2658671/
Democracy is not 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting who is for supper ...

baddog 08-15-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19759397)
The question was tongue-in-cheek rhetorical ... But the police are wearing body armor ...

I IM'd with a friend in Alexandria, Egypt a few hours ago and she says she is scared -- you can't blame her it's a mess there.



A couple weeks ago I was talking with a guy on Fbook that was in a tourist destination on the coast. While everyone in Cairo was up in arms, at his location everyone was happy and celebrating Morsi being arrested. It definitely matters where you live.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19759967)


Democracy is not 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting who is for supper ...

Here is the problem . . . . the country is pretty evenly split between pro and anti-Morsi (kind of like Obama here). The 50% that are against Morsi don't think Democracy is working because the person they wanted to get elected, wasn't.

Barry-xlovecam 08-15-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19760021)
Here is the problem . . . . the country is pretty evenly split between pro and anti-Morsi (kind of like Obama here). The 50% that are against Morsi don't think Democracy is working because the person they wanted to get elected, wasn't.

Probably read that in the media ...

The people tired of military rule that started when the Wafd ended with The Free Officers coup de ta. Most famous Presidents Nasser and Mubarak were little better than dictators installed by "fair elections" like they had in the old USSR. Like the USSR there were land reforms with a socialist label applied. The poor Egyptians still make mud brick on the banks of the Nile to build their crude dwellings in rural villages as they did in antiquity and much of the Muslim Brotherhood's majority support comes from that Rural environment -- their majorities do not come from more urbane and sophisticated Egypt.

Then comes the "Arab Spring" revolts and the military seizure of power from Mubarak, his resulting trial and imprisonment, and contentious election of Morsi (Mursi) the Presidential candidate of the Muslim Brotherhood. The same Muslim Brotherhood that helped Nasser come to power and whom he tossed out and made his political enemy after Nasser established the UAR with Syria. During Mubarak's reign the same Muslim Brotherhood attacked Egyptian government assets and tourists causing extreme damage to the Egyptian economy, much of Egypt's foreign earnings were from tourism. It was in act of sabotage to the economy -- with enough economic suffering the Muslim Brotherhood could seize political power -- which they did accomplish. However, the Muslim Brotherhood only knows religious hate with terrorism and how to destroy; e.g., their close alliance with Hamas and maybe, unproven their ties to other Islamic Fundamentalists. However, the Muslim Brotherhood has persecuted the few Shi'ite Muslims in Egypt as well as the Coptic Christians -- so they are not about sectarian tolerance at all and that was one promise that they made to gain power that failure being one of the main reasons that the Military took control to preserve the secular nature of the Egyptian government -- one of the foundations of the Wafd's overthrow in the 1950's by the The Free Officers.

This is why in Syria Assad and his father continuously to this day have fought and Massacred over 10K Muslim Brotherhood "insurgents (enemies of the ruling Ba'th)" and civillians in Hama, Syria. The Muslim Brotherhood are sworn enemies of the Shi'ite and Ba'athist party member.

In Egypt many of those that supported Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood found that after he took power that his promises were just a ploy to get elected and install a new constitution, by force without any meaningful parliamentary debate, and rejected his plans with civil resistance by peaceful protest -- then the Military ousted the "elected" leader to avoid what they saw as becoming a civil war.

Bottom line the pro-Morsi and Muslim Brotherhood supporters are a vocal and violent minority now -- armed and in open revolt.

The USA, Canadian and European governments are totally hypocritical and playing to the masses with their condemnations of the current military installed interim government in Egypt. If armed demonstrators shot and/or killed 43 policemen in their countries they would act very similarly -- meet deadly force with deadly force.


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