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JeremySF 02-27-2003 03:19 PM

What Religion Are You?
 
????

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 03:22 PM

Agnosticism should not be on the list.

It does not deal with the concept of belief.

JeremySF 02-27-2003 03:24 PM

Nor is athiesm a religion...it's the absence of religion. Semantics mate.....next time I'll rephrase the question.

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Agnosticism should not be on the list.

It does not deal with the concept of belief.


galleryseek 02-27-2003 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Agnosticism should not be on the list.

It does not deal with the concept of belief.

yeah but in terms of religion its the only way to go :winkwink:

Fletch XXX 02-27-2003 03:32 PM

Rege Satanas!

nofx 02-27-2003 03:34 PM

non denominational(sp?)

titmowse 02-27-2003 03:37 PM

You left out SUBGENIUS

Bob will be pissed :BangBang: :ak47: :winkwink:

Jer 02-27-2003 03:37 PM

God is Brazilian

Basher 02-27-2003 03:40 PM

you forgot jedi look it up its a religion now

KRL 02-27-2003 03:41 PM

Organized Religion is for pions, schmucks, and putzes.

Keep putting your money in the basket so they can payoff the neverending lawsuits caused by all these pedo pervert clowns prancing around like they are holy men in their purple tarps with cum stains underneath.

Penn E. Less 02-27-2003 03:41 PM

Everyone at UCumSeeMe.com including myself is of the "Cash Money" religion. We commit sins when we don't generate enough of it.

:1orglaugh

MonkeyMan 02-27-2003 03:42 PM

Buddhist


I am one.

gothweb 02-27-2003 03:45 PM

Thanks for the even-handed list of options. You list Moonie, but leave many people out. Might have considered "Other" as an option.

As to people saying that Athiesm isn't a religion. Well, you're right. However, it is the kind of thing that makes sense as an asnwer to this question. It is, after all, a religious position.

Also, it is foolish to say that Agnosicism has nothing to do with belief. It has everything to do with belief, it just doesn't include certain belief. Admitting you don't know what to believe is a valid position. Thinking otherwise is what leads to dogma.

On-top 02-27-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Agnosticism should not be on the list.

It does not deal with the concept of belief.


agˇnosˇtic -

1a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
1b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.

SCJason 02-27-2003 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
God is Brazilian
That explains the chicks down there !!!!!

MattO 02-27-2003 03:56 PM

I'm an Apathist...

JeremySF 02-27-2003 04:07 PM

C'mon Goth....like you're one to talk. In your poll "Where are you from?" you put "Other North American" instead of Canada. You put England instead of U.K. And you left out Ireland???

Moonie was a joke and "First Church of JJ" translates to "other". I'm curious, what else would you have included?

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Originally posted by gothweb
Thanks for the even-handed list of options. You list Moonie, but leave many people out. Might have considered "Other" as an option.


Zebra 02-27-2003 04:07 PM

Pedestrian

dinkz 02-27-2003 04:08 PM

Actually I'm not 100% sure... I do believe that I'm Lutheran though, as 87% of the Swedes are Lutheran :glugglug

NetRodent 02-27-2003 04:11 PM

You left out several minor religions...

Shintoism
Zoroastrianism
Polytheism

Sarah_Jayne 02-27-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dinkz
Actually I'm not 100% sure... I do believe that I'm Lutheran though, as 87% of the Swedes are Lutheran :glugglug
well, if you are Lutheran then that would make you Christian

dinkz 02-27-2003 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc


well, if you are Lutheran then that would make you Christian

That sounds about right :)

Not visiting churches that often though, only funerals and weddings :Graucho


Edit: Typo

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by On-top



agˇnosˇtic -

1a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
1b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.

Gnosˇtiˇcism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nst-szm)
n.
The doctrines of certain pre-Christian pagan, Jewish, and early Christian sects that valued the revealed knowledge of God and of the origin and end of the human race as a means to attain redemption for the spiritual element in humans and that distinguished the Demiurge from the unknowable Divine Being.

JeremySF 02-27-2003 04:51 PM

huh? I'm not following.... Gnosˇtiˇcism and agnostic are two different things.

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Gnosˇtiˇcism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nst-szm)
n.
The doctrines of certain pre-Christian pagan, Jewish, and early Christian sects that valued the revealed knowledge of God and of the origin and end of the human race as a means to attain redemption for the spiritual element in humans and that distinguished the Demiurge from the unknowable Divine Being.


XxXotic 02-27-2003 04:52 PM

agnostic

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeremySF
huh? I'm not following.... Gnosˇtiˇcism and agnostic are two different things.


Yes, there's an 'a' in front.

a-theism
a-gnostic

People get so caught up in the popular use of words that they forget that in order to fully understand a word you need to take it back to its root.

gothweb 02-27-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Yes, there's an 'a' in front.

a-theism
a-gnostic

People get so caught up in the popular use of words that they forget that in order to fully understand a word you need to take it back to its root.

Gnosticism is not the root of agnosticism. Both have gnosis, or knowledge, as their root. Agnosticism is not the opposite of gnosticism. Come on.

Agnostic... "a-" as in "non" and gnostic as in "knowledge"... Not having knowledge. Not being sure.

Mr Cheeks 02-27-2003 05:07 PM

you left out an option for me. i am jemustian..
(hybrid jew, muslim and christian)

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb


Gnosticism is not the root of agnosticism. Both have gnosis, or knowledge, as their root. Agnosticism is not the opposite of gnosticism. Come on.

Agnostic... "a-" as in "non" and gnostic as in "knowledge"... Not having knowledge. Not being sure.

True.

So an agnostic is one who admits to having no knowledge of 'god'. Again, this does not deal with the concept of belief.

Someone who is an atheist or a-theist, is basically a non theist i.e. does not hold a belief in theism. Take careful note that in no way does this mean that an atheist DENIES the existence of god. Of course, some atheists might try to and some refer to this as "strong" athiesm but atheism in its pure form is just non theism.

a-theism deals with belief
a-gnosticism deals with knowledge.

They are actually complementary positions.

JeremySF 02-27-2003 05:29 PM

LOL.... I was wondering if I should include BuJew, buddhist Jewish

Quote:

Originally posted by alchemist
you left out an option for me. i am jemustian..
(hybrid jew, muslim and christian)


gothweb 02-27-2003 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


True.

So an agnostic is one who admits to having no knowledge of 'god'. Again, this does not deal with the concept of belief.

Someone who is an atheist or a-theist, is basically a non theist i.e. does not hold a belief in theism. Take careful note that in no way does this mean that an atheist DENIES the existence of god. Of course, some atheists might try to and some refer to this as "strong" athiesm but atheism in its pure form is just non theism.

a-theism deals with belief
a-gnosticism deals with knowledge.

They are actually complementary positions.

a-theism denies god
a-gnosticism denies knowledge

If you do not understand the close relationship between knowledge and belief... well, let me put it this way. If you feel you cannot *know* about something, what do you believe about that thing? Agnosticm has the answer to that worked out. So do people who understand it.

steffie 02-27-2003 05:35 PM

Wiccan?

Anybody??

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb


a-theism denies god
a-gnosticism denies knowledge

If you do not understand the close relationship between knowledge and belief... well, let me put it this way. If you feel you cannot *know* about something, what do you believe about that thing? Agnosticm has the answer to that worked out. So do people who understand it.

Bullshit.

Your statement that atheism denies god is absolute hogwash.
An atheist is someone who holds NO THEISTIC BELIEF or, in other words, is a non-theist.

Many people who call themselves agnostics are actually atheists because they are simply non-theists. There is no fence-sitting when it comes to belief. You either believe or you don't.

Do you even know who coined the term 'agnostic' and when?

Miss Novette 02-27-2003 05:56 PM

Independent.

JeremySF 02-27-2003 06:55 PM

Only 5 hebes so far?? Where are all my babaghanouj-eating, kipa wearing, non-shul going, porn-surfing Jewish brethren?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Manny The Freak 02-27-2003 07:03 PM

Athiest.

Vendot 03-02-2003 05:12 AM

Fuck..... I didnt expect to be the token hindu.

I guess hindu's are too conservative to be in porn.

duroflex 03-02-2003 05:24 AM

I don't have a fucking religion.

Religion is for people too fucking weak to realise that they only have themselves to blame.


Quote:

"Uhh, the lord acts in mysterious ways"

NO HE DOESN'T. :mad:

He's fucking fiction. He's a character from a book, that's all. He isn't real. End of story.

If you are so fucking stupid and mindless that you need to blame some god for everything or ask some god for help, you need to wake up!

All gods are just characters from books. Do you believe in Harry Potter?

No?

Well, why not? He's a character from a book. Tell you what, Ill write a book with me as main character, and you can worship me!

Danny_C 03-02-2003 07:56 AM

Most agnostics are NOT "unsure". People tend the wrong impression about agnosticism and say things like "They're people who can't make up their minds," or, "They just don't know if there's a God."

That's true in some cases, but in most cases, agnosticism is an active decision not to believe in anything that can't be proven. It's an understanding that the metaphysical, by the sheer fact of being metaphysical, is unexplainable and unprovable, and therefore has no merit in an intellectual debate.

And most are also atheists. I'm an atheist and an agnostic. I don't believe in God, but I believe it's important to keep my mind open to all possibilities, so that I can easily assimilate any new real data (as opposed to believers who reject solid data any time it conflicts with their beliefs... things like evolution).

Gman.357 03-02-2003 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Rege Satanas!
Temple of Set.

LadyMischief 03-02-2003 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse
You left out SUBGENIUS

Bob will be pissed :BangBang: :ak47: :winkwink:

Yeah, all these pink bastards would never understand anyways.

I'll have my seat on the spaceship and my coca cola come x-day! :P

LadyMischief 03-02-2003 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
Wiccan?

Anybody??

Yes ma'am. Wiccan here :)

blazi 03-02-2003 09:33 AM

religion kinda sucks 'cause it seems to create war...

we need a system where there is no war! there has to be one?

I don't know!

pink_in_the_middle 03-02-2003 10:09 AM

I was baptized Christian.

Danny_C 03-02-2003 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blazi
religion kinda sucks 'cause it seems to create war...

we need a system where there is no war! there has to be one?

I don't know!

How about atheism? When people don't believe that there's a fairy godfather watching over them, and that they won't go to a happy place to spend eternity with all their dead pets and favorite grandparents, they take life a lot more seriously.

I actually heard this once from a Christian: "I think we should just turn Afghanistan into one big glass parkin' lot. Fuck 'em! Blow 'em to shit and let God sort 'em out."

In other words, who gives a shit of a lot of people die? God's gonna reward the good Christians and punish the evilders anyway, right? So what does it really matter if we massacre innocent people to get to a few bad ones?

Joe Sixpack 03-02-2003 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danny_C
That's true in some cases, but in most cases, agnosticism is an active decision not to believe in anything that can't be proven. It's an understanding that the metaphysical, by the sheer fact of being metaphysical, is unexplainable and unprovable, and therefore has no merit in an intellectual debate.

This is atheism.

Joe Sixpack 03-02-2003 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
I was baptized Christian.
So what does that have to do with anything?

Are you a practising Christian?

Zoe 03-02-2003 11:00 PM

Hellenic Polytheist Pagan... :)

definition - copious quantities of sex is good... very good. Of course, it does have a much broader definition, but I think that at least covers the main point.

Enchantress 03-02-2003 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
Wiccan?

Anybody??

I'm a Wiccan as well.

StuartD 03-03-2003 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manny The Tranny Fucker
Athiest.
I thought you were gone? Liar!

Anyway, I am "United." Anyone know what that means? :winkwink:


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