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Trend 06-26-2013 07:25 PM

TSA - Be Careful When Carrying Cash
 
So this was really disturbing.

I was on a flight out of LaGuardia this week and was detained by TSA for 4+ hours .. my "crime" ... I was carrying 12k in cash.

According to TSA, an American, travelling domestically is not allowed to carry more than 10k in cash.

It was quite an ordeal as they contacted my bank, the hotel I stayed at, the people I met with in NY etc. They grilled me pretty hard and I have to tell you... it was spooky.

Juicy D. Links 06-26-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19688578)
So this was really disturbing.

I was on a flight out of LaGuardia this week and was detained by TSA for 4+ hours .. my "crime" ... I was carrying 12k in cash.

According to TSA, an American, travelling domestically is not allowed to carry more than 10k in cash.

It was quite an ordeal as they contacted my bank, the hotel I stayed at, the people I met with in NY etc. They grilled me pretty hard and I have to tell you... it was spooky.

10K has always been the limit , you are lucky some shady TSA fucks didn't confiscate it and such....

Evil Chris 06-26-2013 08:03 PM

What are you doing walking around with that much hard currency on you?

geedub 06-26-2013 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 19688635)
10K has always been the limit , you are lucky some shady TSA fucks didn't confiscate it and such....

I thought 10k or more meant you had to declare it, not the maximum you could actually carry.

96ukssob 06-26-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 19688635)
10K has always been the limit , you are lucky some shady TSA fucks didn't confiscate it and such....

Yeah, very true. Some of these things are clearly listed, but they could of easily taken your cash and held it for years.

Why would you be carrying that much cash anyway? They don't have banks where you are going or planning on buying every item on the plane?

Major (Tom) 06-26-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19688578)
So this was really disturbing.

I was on a flight out of LaGuardia this week and was detained by TSA for 4+ hours .. my "crime" ... I was carrying 12k in cash.

According to TSA, an American, travelling domestically is not allowed to carry more than 10k in cash.

It was quite an ordeal as they contacted my bank, the hotel I stayed at, the people I met with in NY etc. They grilled me pretty hard and I have to tell you... it was spooky.

Bro no disrespect but I was taught that in 3rd grade.
Ds

timlover 06-26-2013 08:05 PM

Well thats to help fight drug money payments and money laundering...

next time fill out the form

http://www.unclefed.com/IRS-Forms/1998/f4790.pdf

Juicy D. Links 06-26-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geedub (Post 19688639)
I thought 10k or more meant you had to declare it, not the maximum you could actually carry.

not sure i think it is 10k , any more than that is asking for trouble i think in questioning and so on....

I once duct taped my wad on my gooch on the way back from Vegas

Rochard 06-26-2013 08:11 PM

Why is it disturbing? You are taking large amounts of cash out of the country. Not strange at all.

baddog 06-26-2013 08:15 PM

Nothing new here.

Pipecrew 06-26-2013 08:18 PM

Not fully related but if the amount is under 10k usually and on your person you won't have a problem.

However today when flying out of lax. I had 400 cash on me and I went through the 3d X-ray thingy. They made me step out and hand them my cash and then get back in. Never seen that procedure before. Every other time they encourage you to hold onto your cash and boarding pass

24/7 Blogging Crew 06-26-2013 08:19 PM

had to have it for columbia?

baddog 06-26-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 19688658)
Not fully related but if the amount is under 10k usually and on your person you won't have a problem.

However today when flying out of lax. I had 400 cash on me and I went through the 3d X-ray thingy. They made me step out and hand them my cash and then get back in. Never seen that procedure before. Every other time they encourage you to hold onto your cash and boarding pass

I have never had them suggest I hold onto my cash. Boarding pass only.

L-Pink 06-26-2013 08:29 PM

For domestic travel?

georgeyw 06-26-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19688668)
For domestic travel?

I was wondering the same, have never ever heard of this being applied to domestic travel (in Aus of course). We have the asame 10K limit for international travels though.

Why would it matter for domestic?

lezinterracial 06-26-2013 08:33 PM

You are very lucky the TSA didn't take it. You don't want to even drive down the road with more than a few hundred dollars in cash. The cops will take your money and let you go.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/18...or-profit-case

You can refuse a search of your car, But the cops will bring a dog that they can signal when to alert.

The Heron 06-26-2013 08:35 PM

Pretty sure it's only international when the 10k limit applies, interstate travel should be affected but then again TSA is pretty hard to pin down their rules

TheSquealer 06-26-2013 08:38 PM

Thats nothing new and has zero to do with the TSA. Been like that for probably close to 20 years. The magic number has been 10k. Same with bank deposits. You can't just fill a briefcase with cash and fly out of the country with it.

georgeyw 06-26-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19688687)
Thats nothing new and has zero to do with the TSA. Been like that for probably close to 20 years. The magic number has been 10k. Same with bank deposits. You can't just fill a briefcase with cash and fly out of the country with it.

Domestic travel :2 cents:

Pseudonymous 06-26-2013 08:46 PM

i always carry exactly 9,999 in my pocket when going to the states each time, its how much i pay my models. and i like to take it out in american before i go down, i pay my models cash, not cheque. never been questioned. but probably because i carry under 10k? not like they know how much is there, passes through scanner and t hey give it to me

Due 06-26-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 19688679)
Pretty sure it's only international when the 10k limit applies, interstate travel should be affected but then again TSA is pretty hard to pin down their rules

I think it's based on your appearance. If you look like it's a lot of money for you they will treat you like it's a lot of money.

shake 06-26-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19688652)
Why is it disturbing? You are taking large amounts of cash out of the country. Not strange at all.

He said domestically :2 cents:

Trend 06-26-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19688668)
For domestic travel?


Right. I think people are misunderstanding here. I was not leaving the country. I was going from NY to Miami LOL.

And for those who are asking about the dollar amount. 12k for a trip to Miami .. especially during a week when the Heat won the championship... sorry but that is chump change.

I have travelled extensively domestically for years and have NEVER had issue carrying cash.

Trend 06-26-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19688652)
Why is it disturbing? You are taking large amounts of cash out of the country. Not strange at all.


Domestically.

From my attorney:

It is not illegal to carry large amounts of cash while traveling domestically. You only need to declare amounts over 10k when travelling internationally. The government cannot seize the funds without first proving it to be connected with criminal activity or having a lien on the cash (e.g. from a tax assessment, etc). Absent some other fact found in the screening that would indicate criminal activity, the TSA should not detain you for long simply because you have a lot of cash on you.

Robbie 06-26-2013 08:57 PM

It shouldn't be any of the govt.'s fucking business how much money you have with you.

But I guess I'm the only one who is disgusted with this kind of shit going on.

All in the name of the the failed "drug war"...which is the govt. telling us what we can put in our own bodies.

I should be able to walk around with as much of MY money as I want to at any given time. It's nobodies business. ESPECIALLY the govt.

But I guess you have to be treated like a criminal to ride on what passes for an airplane these days (a glorified bus with wings)

baddog 06-26-2013 09:00 PM

http://airsafe.com/issues/baggage/cash.htm

Iffy

Robbie 06-26-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19688701)
Right. I think people are misunderstanding here. I was not leaving the country. I was going from NY to Miami LOL.

And for those who are asking about the dollar amount. 12k for a trip to Miami .. especially during a week when the Heat won the championship... sorry but that is chump change.

I have travelled extensively domestically for years and have NEVER had issue carrying cash.

Yep, and back before the "war on drugs" and the TSA and ATM machines...big time rich gamblers would load up with hundreds of thousands of dollars in CASH in cases and come here to Vegas to gamble.

Hell, a lot of them still do. You can't withdraw money fast enough or in big enough amounts to sit down at some high stakes poker games. Even an ATM will limit you on how much you can pull out, etc.

The whole thing is disgusting to me that the authorities are monitoring our every move and even telling us how much of our own money we can or can't have in our own pockets.

brassmonkey 06-26-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19688578)
So this was really disturbing.

I was on a flight out of LaGuardia this week and was detained by TSA for 4+ hours .. my "crime" ... I was carrying 12k in cash.

According to TSA, an American, travelling domestically is not allowed to carry more than 10k in cash.

It was quite an ordeal as they contacted my bank, the hotel I stayed at, the people I met with in NY etc. They grilled me pretty hard and I have to tell you... it was spooky.

yeah its 10k dogg. did you get the flour to bake the cakes? :winkwink: :uhoh

Trend 06-26-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19688706)

How is this "iffy" ?

"If you are on a domestic flight in the US, there is no limit to the amount of cash or monetary instruments that you can carry."

I didn't mind a few questions but 4+ hours of intrusive questions, phone calls etc and a missed flight.. I was rightfully pissed.

Trend 06-26-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19688707)
Yep, and back before the "war on drugs" and the TSA and ATM machines...big time rich gamblers would load up with hundreds of thousands of dollars in CASH in cases and come here to Vegas to gamble.

Hell, a lot of them still do. You can't withdraw money fast enough or in big enough amounts to sit down at some high stakes poker games. Even an ATM will limit you on how much you can pull out, etc.

The whole thing is disgusting to me that the authorities are monitoring our every move and even telling us how much of our own money we can or can't have in our own pockets.


It was disgusting.

Imagine this .. my bank received an inquiry from TSA regarding my withdrawal activity.

My mainstream business client received a call from TSA questioning our relationship and meeting in NY

The hotel I have been a Gold Member+ for over 15 years received a call from TSA questioning my hotel stay.

baddog 06-26-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19688712)
How is this "iffy" ?

"If you are on a domestic flight in the US, there is no limit to the amount of cash or monetary instruments that you can carry."

I guess you would have to read the next sentence or two.

Trend 06-26-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19688707)
Yep, and back before the "war on drugs" and the TSA and ATM machines...big time rich gamblers would load up with hundreds of thousands of dollars in CASH in cases and come here to Vegas to gamble.

Hell, a lot of them still do. You can't withdraw money fast enough or in big enough amounts to sit down at some high stakes poker games. Even an ATM will limit you on how much you can pull out, etc.

The whole thing is disgusting to me that the authorities are monitoring our every move and even telling us how much of our own money we can or can't have in our own pockets.


Speaking of coming to Vegas ... is there a train from the east coast .. because I may never fly again! lol

Jim_Gunn 06-26-2013 09:17 PM

For fuck's sake I don't know which is worse among the early replies- the people who didn't understand from his clearly stated post that this was a *domestic* flight, not international; or the people that act like they approve of the government being up their ass and asking them questions "because they have nothing to hide".

I agree with Robbie, it's fucking ridiculous that TSA agents at airports and State troopers all over the country are now setting up on highways and confiscating people's hard earned money on some bullshit suspicion of drugs or terrorist activity or whatever other excuse they dream up. The police have actually become modern day highwaymen stealing from people unlucky enough to pass them by.

Vendzilla 06-26-2013 09:30 PM

This has been going on for more than 30 years that I know of, had that problem way back then.

L-Pink 06-26-2013 09:36 PM

So on my way to buy a car for instance I can have my cash confiscated?

Robbie 06-26-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19688728)
This has been going on for more than 30 years that I know of, had that problem way back then.

Probably more like 40 years...ever since Richard Nixon started the "War On Drugs".

Only thing is they weren't able to just search people (because it's unconstitutional and people wouldn't stand for it back then) so it wasn't really able to be enforced as much.

But now...thanks to "terrorism" (you know, a dozen guys with box cutters 12 years ago), they search you and scan you and you have zero privacy.

Robbie 06-26-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19688732)
So on my way to buy a car for instance I can have my cash confiscated?

Got news for ya...if you buy a car with cash it better be the cheapest car on the planet. Because if you walk into a car dealership and pay more than $10,000 in cash...the fucking IRS requires the dealership to make you fill out Form 8300 so they can keep track of YOUR money at all times.

I bought my jeep a few years ago with "cash", I did it by going to the bank and purchasing several cashiers checks for $9,000 each.

Tent Pitcher 06-26-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 19688658)
Not fully related but if the amount is under 10k usually and on your person you won't have a problem.

However today when flying out of lax. I had 400 cash on me and I went through the 3d X-ray thingy. They made me step out and hand them my cash and then get back in. Never seen that procedure before. Every other time they encourage you to hold onto your cash and boarding pass

Some newer currency has RFID tags embedded in it, which could interfere with the backscatter x-ray machines at most airports.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-26-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 19688649)

not sure i think it is 10k , any more than that is asking for trouble i think in questioning and so on....

I once duct taped my wad on my gooch on the way back from Vegas

What a gooch wad!!! :xomunch

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6085742080/h403892D7/

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o_fY2BVaOc...ng-money03.jpg

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...hoe--10172.jpg

:stoned

ADG

zuffa 06-26-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19688728)
This has been going on for more than 30 years that I know of, had that problem way back then.


I have travelled in and out of Vegas for many years carrying significant sums of cash and had never been stopped.

Glad I don't travel commercially any longer.

brassmonkey 06-26-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19688741)
What a gooch wad!!! :xomunch


http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...hoe--10172.jpg

:stoned

ADG

should have just put it in his jaw

Jim_Gunn 06-26-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19688732)
So on my way to buy a car for instance I can have my cash confiscated?

I see a video or article almost every month on Youtube and news sites about some immigrant businessman trying to buy a franchise store, a family moving out of state, a retired guy buying a truck or some other law abiding citizens on their way to wherever driving down the highway within America in places like Tennessee and elsewhere getting their cash "confiscated" by State troopers on suspicion of drug trafficking. They always bring some dogs out and make them "signal" at some pre-determined moment and they say the dog smelled drugs and force their way into the vehicle even if it is locked and steal your money. Then a year or so later after you spend thousands fighting it in court they'll just say there must have been "residue" on your bills give you back 95% of it if your attorney is really good. It's insane the shit that goes on nowadays with law enforcement.

Rochard 06-26-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19688687)
Thats nothing new and has zero to do with the TSA. Been like that for probably close to 20 years. The magic number has been 10k. Same with bank deposits. You can't just fill a briefcase with cash and fly out of the country with it.

My parents used to do just that - a briefcase full of case every time they went to Europe. My step father had his own business, and as a side business he sold cars under the table. He would buy a car at auction using cash, fix it up, and then sell it, and stash the profits. Three or four times a year he would fly off to Europe. By the time my folks divorced, they had $200k in investments in Europe.

Good times.

Barefootsies 06-26-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19688736)
Got news for ya...if you buy a car with cash it better be the cheapest car on the planet. Because if you walk into a car dealership and pay more than $10,000 in cash...the fucking IRS requires the dealership to make you fill out Form 8300 so they can keep track of YOUR money at all times.

I bought my jeep a few years ago with "cash", I did it by going to the bank and purchasing several cashiers checks for $9,000 each.

Odd. I guess the dealerships I have dealt with over the years are not following this law, as I have never had to do this with any cashier's check, and I have paid for cars cash. My 2011 Ford Edge I bought 2 years ago was more than $10k, and never had this issue then either.

I have heard of the $10k rule, and the only time I can think of being hassled with it was once a year at the casino if I won more than $10k in a 2 day period of time. That is the only time I recall having to fill anything out with it.

I have bank wires coming and going for much more than that on a weekly basis, and again, never had an issue. I do get called from the bank every 3-6 months, and I have explained what I am doing, who I am dealing with, and whatever so they have a full understanding of why I have these large payments and invoices going back and forth.

Do I get annoyed having to explain some of this stuff repeatedly? Sure. But I also do not want them locking up accounts on bullshit either. Which has never happened as I am straight forward with what is going where and why.

Do I think the government needs to know where every dime of my money in coming and going? No, not at all. I find it beyond annoying. However, I do concede that "most Americans" do not have :2 cents: to their name, so I can understand why they are asking about such matters. I am not saying it's right or wrong and I do find it some level of intrusive. I also do not agree with them seizing it, or getting all up in your business with the bank/hotel/friends/etc. or local Fife taking it either.

I am simply saying, I can understand WHY they ask when most people do not have $10,000 to their name, much less carrying it on their person regardless of where they are going.

:2 cents:

JockoHomo 06-26-2013 10:01 PM

You can transport as much money as you like domestically. Internationally you must declare amounts over the 10K limit.

Now, you must remember that airports are not normal areas and once you are in an airport you can be searched. If they found that much cash on you they might assume you could have drugs (this is profiling which is used despite denials). You do NOT however have to PROVE anything at all.

You are well within your rights to carry that cash...just have the knowledge that the fucking authorities will use that sort of thing to do further searches!

RyuLion 06-26-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19688706)

:2 cents::2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 19688698)
I think it's based on your appearance. If you look like it's a lot of money for you they will treat you like it's a lot of money.

BINGO!! That's why I will always get sent to secondary inspection..

xNetworx 06-26-2013 10:14 PM

I never get on a plane with more than $9,990.

12k seems like a lot for anybody to keep on them for a flight, unless you were flying private.

I agree it is ridiculous what they did to you though.

myjah 06-26-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19688748)
My parents used to do just that - a briefcase full of case every time they went to Europe. My step father had his own business, and as a side business he sold cars under the table. He would buy a car at auction using cash, fix it up, and then sell it, and stash the profits. Three or four times a year he would fly off to Europe. By the time my folks divorced, they had $200k in investments in Europe.

Good times.

I love how you have a story to fit every topic

Phoenix 06-26-2013 10:53 PM

some balllers up in this thread :)

xNetworx 06-26-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myjah (Post 19688800)
I love how you have a story to fit every topic

Have you heard about his Mustang? JK, of course you have.


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