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Captain Kawaii 05-30-2013 05:03 PM

Roger Waters and Alice Walker Write Letters to Alicia Keys
 
X-Pink Floyd and the writer of the Color Purple

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/05/walker-alicia-israel.html

What will Alicia do?

L-Pink 05-30-2013 05:11 PM

Maybe Alicia likes their empire state of mind …….

Mutt 05-30-2013 05:11 PM

?If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel'‎?

and that's essentially the truth of the matter, the Palestinians would have their homes to live in at peace if the rest of the Arab/Muslim world didn't use the Palestinians as pawns in their ridiculous hatred towards Jews.

_Richard_ 05-30-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19648319)
?If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel'‎?

and that's essentially the truth of the matter, the Palestinians would have their homes to live in at peace if the rest of the Arab/Muslim world didn't use the Palestinians as pawns in their ridiculous hatred towards Jews.

no one is asking them to do that. so it's not the 'essential truth of the matter'

Mutt 05-30-2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19648323)
no one is asking them to do that. so it's not the 'essential truth of the matter'

well genius what are they asking for? you expect the Israelis to make peace with people within their own borders led by terrorists who don't believe in Israel's right to exist?

Captain Kawaii 05-30-2013 05:38 PM

Mutt only proves the writers point.
right wing Israeli's are a paranoid lot.

There are many, many Israeli terrorists. Terrorists from anywhere are not welcome by anyone. Except other terrorists.

Tofu 05-30-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19648318)
Maybe Alicia likes their empire state of mind ??.

hehe :1orglaugh

StickyGreen 05-30-2013 06:18 PM

http://i.imgur.com/mp1Qd3D.gif

Grapesoda 05-30-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19648331)
well genius what are they asking for? you expect the Israelis to make peace with people within their own borders led by terrorists who don't believe in Israel's right to exist?

there is no peace to be made :2 cents:

DTK 05-30-2013 07:34 PM

IMO, Alicia Keys has always been a bit of a knucklehead.

Captain Kawaii 05-30-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19648480)
IMO, Alicia Keys has always been a bit of a knucklehead.

:2 cents::2 cents:

PornDiscounts-V 05-30-2013 11:39 PM

Israel is not a peace loving nation

Mutt 05-31-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19648666)
Israel is not a peace loving nation

um ................. who has Israel ever attacked that hasn't made it known that their goal is the annihilation of Israel?

here's some of the greatest hits from the Quran

Surah 9:5 - Kill non-Muslims wherever you find them. Ambush, seize, and capture them. If they convert to Islam and pray and contribute to the cause of Islam, let them go.

Surah 48:16 - Non-Muslims must convert to Islam or they will be killed.

Surah 98:6 - Verily, those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikûn will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.

and here's what Mohammed the prophet had to say about Jews

Allah's Apostle says, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!'

Very reasonable people Israel has to deal with :1orglaugh

Now go read the Old Testament and find me where there's any hatred and threats towards Arabs.

brassmonkey 05-31-2013 01:13 AM

i hope she skips those assholes :2 cents: she's still fucking fine as hell

Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19648713)
i hope she skips those assholes :2 cents: she's still fucking fine as hell

She's gonna be hot til she drops.

Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 02:33 AM

In response to Surah 9:5 - Your post is a complete fabrication meant to push your warring agenda. The surah was written when Muslims in Arabia were fighting non-Islamic Arabs.
There was a lull in the war. the Prophet wrote the surah during the lull. It was directed at muslims as guidance in how to deal with non-believing pagan Arabs who refused to stop fighting. Nothing about Jews in the surah. You and your little playmates added that. I did not continue with the rest as I assume the other notes you made are just as distorted.

Here is a link to a translation found on an American Islamic Scholarship site.
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php...95_commentary/

Israel has no interest in peace without it dominating the ME and elsewhere. You treat neighbors like dogs, you cage them, you kill their children. Of course they will fight back. Any mother and father would.

Israel has been "hitting" people all over the world for decades.

Israel is an Apartheid State. Waters and Walker and millions of others are correct in that.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19648689)
um ................. who has Israel ever attacked that hasn't made it known that their goal is the annihilation of Israel?

here's some of the greatest hits from the Quran

Surah 9:5 - Kill non-Muslims wherever you find them. Ambush, seize, and capture them. If they convert to Islam and pray and contribute to the cause of Islam, let them go.

Surah 48:16 - Non-Muslims must convert to Islam or they will be killed.

Surah 98:6 - Verily, those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikûn will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.

and here's what Mohammed the prophet had to say about Jews

Allah's Apostle says, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!'

Very reasonable people Israel has to deal with :1orglaugh

Now go read the Old Testament and find me where there's any hatred and threats towards Arabs.


Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 03:29 AM

Dear Alicia Keys

I read today Alice Walker's eloquent and moving entreaty to you in her open letter.

It is hard to add anything except to implore you to follow all the links she has directed you to.

To introduce myself to you, I am a fellow musician, my name is Roger Waters, I used to be in a band called Pink Floyd, and, believe it or not, I still work.

I had reason last December to write a letter to Stevie Wonder to encourage him to withdraw from an engagement in LA. It was a Gala to raise funds for the Israeli Defense Force. I wasn't the only one to write, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, the great advocate of peace and reconciliation, was among many, many others who wrote as well. To Stevie's great credit he withdrew.

We are all part of the same old story, nothing has changed since the bad old days of apartheid South Africa and Segregated America. We must stand united with all our brothers and sisters against racism, colonialism, segregation and apartheid.

Please, Alicia, do not lend your name to give legitimacy to the Israeli government policies of illegal, apartheid, occupation of the homelands of the indigenous people of Palestine.

Others may try to persuade you that by playing in Israel you may magically effect some change; we know that this is not true, appeasement didn't work with South Africa and it has not worked in Israel. I know I tried it ten years ago, things have only got worse.

I appeal to you to join the rising tide of resistance. Join the many millions of us in global civil society who stand together on the side of justice and peace for all humanity. "We shall overcome one day."


With love and respect,

Roger Waters

Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 03:32 AM

Alice Walker's Letter

Dear Alicia Keys,

I have learned today that you are due to perform in Israel very soon. We have never met, though I believe we are mutually respectful of each other?s path and work. It would grieve me to know you are putting yourself in danger (soul danger) by performing in an apartheid country that is being boycotted by many global conscious artists. You were not born when we, your elders who love you, boycotted institutions in the US South to end an American apartheid less lethal than Israel?s against the Palestinian people. Google Montgomery Bus Boycott, if you don?t know about this civil rights history already. We changed our country fundamentally, and the various boycotts of Israeli institutions and products will do the same there. It is our only nonviolent option and, as we learned from our own struggle in America, nonviolence is the only path to a peaceful future.

If you go to my website and blog alicewalkersgarden.com you can quickly find many articles I have written over the years that explain why a cultural boycott of Israel and Israeli institutions (not individuals) is the only option left to artists who cannot bear the unconscionable harm Israel inflicts every day on the people of Palestine, whose major ?crime? is that they exist in their own land, land that Israel wants to control as its own. Under a campaign named ?Brand Israel?, Israeli officials have stated specifically their intent to downplay the Palestinian conflict by using culture and arts to showcase Israel as a modern, welcoming place.

This is actually a wonderful opportunity for you to learn about something sorrowful, and amazing: that our government (Obama in particular) supports a system that is cruel, unjust, and unbelievably evil. You can spend months, and years, as I have, pondering this situation. Layer upon layer of lies, misinformation, fear, cowardice and complicity. Greed. It is a vast eye-opener into the causes of much of the affliction in our suffering world.

I have kept you in my awareness as someone of conscience and caring, especially about the children of the world. Please, if you can manage it, go to visit the children in Gaza, and sing to them of our mutual love of all children, and of their right not to be harmed simply because they exist.

With love, younger sister, beloved daughter and friend,
Alice Walker

Mutt 05-31-2013 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19648760)
Israel has no interest in peace without it dominating the ME and elsewhere. You treat neighbors like dogs, you cage them, you kill their children. Of course they will fight back. Any mother and father would.


Countries that have expelled, killed, or refused entry to these blessed downtrodden Arab Palestinians:

Jordan
Lebanon
Libya
Syria
Kuwait
Iraq
Saudi Arabia

Such brotherhood, such love, brings a tear to my eye and a little vomit to my mouth.

The entire Arab Middle East is a shithole filled with religious lunatics, thieves and despots and should be treated as such. The US should be right out of the Middle East or should be pillaging it of the only thing worth anything, oil. But instead it spends billions of dollars financing regime changes and then trying to nation build - I'm all for toppling regimes, backing new puppets and taking the oil, forget about the billions spent on building something that can't be built. 100 years from now whether Israel exists or not it will be the same thing, Arabs/Muslims killing, maiming and subjugating each other.

Arabs don't want peace, never have, even amongst each other. They are only happy when there's hate in the air and blood on the ground.

Grapesoda 05-31-2013 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19648867)
Countries that have expelled, killed, or refused entry to these blessed downtrodden Arab Palestinians:

Jordan
Lebanon
Libya
Syria
Kuwait
Iraq
Saudi Arabia

Such brotherhood, such love, brings a tear to my eye and a little vomit to my mouth.

The entire Arab Middle East is a shithole filled with religious lunatics, thieves and despots and should be treated as such. The US should be right out of the Middle East or should be pillaging it of the only thing worth anything, oil. But instead it spends billions of dollars financing regime changes and then trying to nation build - I'm all for toppling regimes, backing new puppets and taking the oil, forget about the billions spent on building something that can't be built. 100 years from now whether Israel exists or not it will be the same thing, Arabs/Muslims killing, maiming and subjugating each other.

Arabs don't want peace, never have, even amongst each other. They are only happy when there's hate in the air and blood on the ground.

a wide band of low IQ :2 cents:

Mutt 05-31-2013 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19648788)
Alice Walker's Letter

Dear Alicia Keys,

I have learned today that you are due to perform in Israel very soon. We have never met, though I believe we are mutually respectful of each other’s path and work. It would grieve me to know you are putting yourself in danger (soul danger) by performing in an apartheid country that is being boycotted by many global conscious artists. You were not born when we, your elders who love you, boycotted institutions in the US South to end an American apartheid less lethal than Israel’s against the Palestinian people. Google Montgomery Bus Boycott, if you don’t know about this civil rights history already. We changed our country fundamentally, and the various boycotts of Israeli institutions and products will do the same there. It is our only nonviolent option and, as we learned from our own struggle in America, nonviolence is the only path to a peaceful future.

If you go to my website and blog alicewalkersgarden.com you can quickly find many articles I have written over the years that explain why a cultural boycott of Israel and Israeli institutions (not individuals) is the only option left to artists who cannot bear the unconscionable harm Israel inflicts every day on the people of Palestine, whose major “crime” is that they exist in their own land, land that Israel wants to control as its own. Under a campaign named ‘Brand Israel’, Israeli officials have stated specifically their intent to downplay the Palestinian conflict by using culture and arts to showcase Israel as a modern, welcoming place.

This is actually a wonderful opportunity for you to learn about something sorrowful, and amazing: that our government (Obama in particular) supports a system that is cruel, unjust, and unbelievably evil. You can spend months, and years, as I have, pondering this situation. Layer upon layer of lies, misinformation, fear, cowardice and complicity. Greed. It is a vast eye-opener into the causes of much of the affliction in our suffering world.

I have kept you in my awareness as someone of conscience and caring, especially about the children of the world. Please, if you can manage it, go to visit the children in Gaza, and sing to them of our mutual love of all children, and of their right not to be harmed simply because they exist.

With love, younger sister, beloved daughter and friend,
Alice Walker

Delusional woman, I will send her my last post. Hahaha Alicia Keys doesn't know Alice Walker from Alice Cooper. Because they're both black she thinks Alicia is 'younger sister, beloved daughter and friend'.

Dear Alice Walker,

I have a mother, she is a white Italian American woman, you are an old black woman, you are not my mother. I am an only child, you are not my sister, older or otherwise. As for friend, I don't remember any parties you've invited me to nor have we taken in any concerts together or gone on any trips or outings together. I can't find you on my Facebook friends list, your phone number isn't in my phone.

Regards,

Alicia Keys

************************************************** ****************


oh look, what a surprise, Alice Walker is a full fledged kook

"Walker is a supporter of David Icke and believes that the "blue eyed devils" identified by Malcolm X as the oppressors of black people are in fact an extra-terrestrial lizard race."

alex.missyouth 05-31-2013 11:28 AM

I hope she doesn't play the gig.

Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19648876)
Delusional woman, I will send her my last post. Hahaha Alicia Keys doesn't know Alice Walker from Alice Cooper. Because they're both black she thinks Alicia is 'younger sister, beloved daughter and friend'.

Dear Alice Walker,

I have a mother, she is a white Italian American woman, you are an old black woman, you are not my mother. I am an only child, you are not my sister, older or otherwise. As for friend, I don't remember any parties you've invited me to nor have we taken in any concerts together or gone on any trips or outings together. I can't find you on my Facebook friends list, your phone number isn't in my phone.

Regards,

Alicia Keys

************************************************** ****************


oh look, what a surprise, Alice Walker is a full fledged kook

"Walker is a supporter of David Icke and believes that the "blue eyed devils" identified by Malcolm X as the oppressors of black people are in fact an extra-terrestrial lizard race."

At least you are open about your support of murdering civilians, prohibiting free speech, prohibiting views not approved by the lukuds, and global oppression and suppression of facts. At least you are open about it. You fight like a lizard. Maybe Icke is on to something. :1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.missyouth (Post 19649412)
I hope she doesn't play the gig.

If she does she will alienate her base.

Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 12:04 PM

Supporters of the Boycott - Kudos to the Jewish folks taking a stand against their insane posse relatives.

Organizational Endorsements:

10/15 Anarchist Collective, Toledo,OH
Action 4 Palestine
The Adobe Alliance
Al Awda
Al-Nakba Awareness Project
American Jews for a Just Peace
Another Jewish Voice, Santa Fe

Arab Resource and Organizing Center
Artists Against Apartheid, USCEIO affiliate
Birthright Unplugged
BOYCOTT! Supporting the Palestinian BDS call from within
Break the Siege (Bay Area)
British Committee for the Universities of Palestine
Cafe Intifada ? film/cultural group
Campaign to End Israeli Apartheid, Southern California
Code Pink
Committee for Palestinian Rights
Emory Advocates for Justice in Palestine
The Free Palestine Alliance (USA)
Friends of Bil?in in USA
Green Party of the United States
Harrisburg Middle East Justice and Peace (South Central Pennsylvania)
INCITE! Women of Color Against Violence
Indian Campaign for the Acdemic and Cultural Boycott of Israel
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network ? Los Angeles Chapter

Lipan Apache Women Defense
Los Angeles Jews for Peace
Los Angeles Palestine Labor Solidarity Committee
Nakba Archive
National Council of Arab Americans
New York City Labor against War
NorCal Friends of Sabeel
Palestinian Economists Association
PATOIS: The New Orleans International Human Rights Film Festival
PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy
Radical Arab Women?s Activist Network
Radius of Arab American Writers (RAWI)
Right to Education Campaign Campaign, Birzeit University
Scientists Without Borders
Shi?a Organization of America
Students Creating Radical Change, New York University
Students for Justice in Palestine, Northeastern University
Students for Justice in Palestine, Northern Arizona University
Students for Justice in Palestine, UC Davis
Students for Justice in Palestine, University of Pittsburgh
Students for Justice in Palestine, University of California, Riverside
Teachers Against the Occupation, Minnesota
US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation
US Palestinian Community Network

from: http://www.usacbi.org/endorsers/

Captain Kawaii 05-31-2013 12:56 PM

During WW2, Hitler and the Nazi Party tried to expel German Jews, deport them, to any country who would take them. Few or No takers.

The countries you list below are either in no position to handle refugees, or take more than what they have. Or they know if they accept them, Israel will never allow the right for Palestinians to return.

Israel needs to drop the hate.

300 new houses going up in East Jerusalem do not help matters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19648867)
Countries that have expelled, killed, or refused entry to these blessed downtrodden Arab Palestinians:

Jordan
Lebanon
Libya
Syria
Kuwait
Iraq
Saudi Arabia

Such brotherhood, such love, brings a tear to my eye and a little vomit to my mouth.

The entire Arab Middle East is a shithole filled with religious lunatics, thieves and despots and should be treated as such. The US should be right out of the Middle East or should be pillaging it of the only thing worth anything, oil. But instead it spends billions of dollars financing regime changes and then trying to nation build - I'm all for toppling regimes, backing new puppets and taking the oil, forget about the billions spent on building something that can't be built. 100 years from now whether Israel exists or not it will be the same thing, Arabs/Muslims killing, maiming and subjugating each other.

Arabs don't want peace, never have, even amongst each other. They are only happy when there's hate in the air and blood on the ground.



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