Think as a man (and as a paying user), not as a webmaster.

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  • Crazy Enough
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2011
    • 449

    #1

    Think as a man (and as a paying user), not as a webmaster.

    I used to work with dating, but then I asked for a "premium" account to see the site as the users see.

    Maybe I'm too naive, but I realized that most profiles were fakes, not to mention that most profiles were men.

    Perhaps that's the reason my conversions were very low, my rebills were almost inexistent, and that's why I stopped working with dating.

    I'm not saying that all dating programs are "fake", but this is a true story. Don't pretend. Assume!

    Free tip #01: Promote what you love, what you, as a man, really enjoy paying, and "using". If you really believe on what you are selling, your subconscious mind will work 24/7 trying to figure new ways to promote that offer. Don't do things just for money.

    "Hell, this site is a piece of crap, outdated, and fake. But I will try to sell it anyway. Maybe some fool will pay to join, and then I'll make some cash."
    The mindset above can't produce good things. You'll jump from one program to another in cycles until you give up.

    As a men and a user I wouldn't pay to use a dating site, so if I don't believe I shouldn't try to sell it, right?

    However, I would be glad paying to watch updated high quality full HD porn, that's why, even with all those tubes I've chosen to work with a very cool paysite (see sign... if you want to) instead of anything else.

    Free tip #02: Last year I was "dispersing" my traffic with several sponsors. That's another thing you should avoid. It's useful to test, not to use as a role model. Of course, if you have millions of visits coming you can promote multiple sites, but that's not the case for most webmasters, right?

    Last edited by Crazy Enough; 05-22-2013, 01:50 PM. Reason: grammar mistakes
  • Marcus Aurelius
    No Refunds Issued.
    • Apr 2003
    • 14809

    #2

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    • nexcom28
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jan 2005
      • 3716

      #3
      Good tips although pretty obvious for most.

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      • xNetworx
        So Fucking What
        • Jan 2004
        • 14445

        #4

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        • Crazy Enough
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2011
          • 449

          #5
          Originally posted by nexcom28
          Good tips although pretty obvious for most.
          Maybe, but thanks!

          That's the problem with humans! We know, but we don't do those "obvious" things on a daily basis.

          We know that we should eat less junk food, and more vegetables and fruits, but we don't do that.

          We know that we should go to the gym or practice some sport, but most of us are sedentary and fat.

          We know that we shouldn't fuck whores without condom, but we fuck.

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          • Ferus
            Bye - Left to do stuff
            • Feb 2013
            • 4102

            #6

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            • EddyTheDog
              Just Doing My Own Thing
              • Jan 2011
              • 25433

              #7
              Promote gay dating sites - Most of the issues you talk about don't exist...

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              • yuu.design
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Mar 2006
                • 25308

                #8
                good tips dude! thanks!
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                • Sarah_Jayne
                  Now with more Jayne
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 40077

                  #9
                  I've been thinking with my non-existent penis for 14 years or so now.

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                  • CDSmith
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • May 2001
                    • 51460

                    #10
                    I see that you're coming at this from a certain point of view, dating sites mostly. But in the world of general webmastering I would have to somewhat disagree with both of your tips. I've found that webmasters who only promote what they themselves like often end up leaving a hell of a lot of money on the table. Case in point: I'm not into bondage or trannies or anything much kinky etc but I've run fetish sites and made quite a chunk from them in years past. My thinking there was basically who cares what *I* like, it's what my surfers are willing to pay for that matters.

                    Of course I did expend a lot of painstaking effort to make sure the sites/programs I was promoting were worth it.

                    As for tip 2, don't diversify? Again, in the dating world perhaps it's wise to pick a worthy program and stick to it. But in the general webmaster/affiliate game I can't tell you how many people I've known over the past 15 years who put all their eggs in one basket, then watched as their cash cow went out of business or changed their method of operation, etc, and then had their income stream evaporate instantly. I always had at least 1-2 dozen programs on the go, promoting collectively a hundred or more pay sites. Whenever a site or entire program went down or ceased to exist the effect on my bottom line was negligeable.

                    Then again I wasn't running just one website. More like dozens. Only promoting what I like or just one program would have been about the worst thing I could have done.


                    By the way just curious, how many neighborhood kids did that dog in your avatar have to eat to get that fat?
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                    • Crazy Enough
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 449

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                      Promote gay dating sites - Most of the issues you talk about don't exist...
                      Lol... That's a creative suggestion

                      I can't do things thinking about the money only. I like pussy, so gay is not an option for me, but maybe it is for some folks. Who knows. There's nothing wrong with that.

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                      • Webmaster Advertising
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 1360

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sarah_Jayne
                        I've been thinking with my non-existent penis for 14 years or so now.
                        So have most of the 'guys' on GFY LOL

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                        • Crazy Enough
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 449

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CDSmith
                          I see that you're coming at this from a certain point of view, dating sites mostly. But in the world of general webmastering I would have to somewhat disagree with both of your tips. I've found that webmasters who only promote what they themselves like often end up leaving a hell of a lot of money on the table. Case in point: I'm not into bondage or trannies or anything much kinky etc but I've run fetish sites and made quite a chunk from them in years past. My thinking there was basically who cares what *I* like, it's what my surfers are willing to pay for that matters.

                          Of course I did expend a lot of painstaking effort to make sure the sites/programs I was promoting were worth it.

                          As for tip 2, don't diversify? Again, in the dating world perhaps it's wise to pick a worthy program and stick to it. But in the general webmaster/affiliate game I can't tell you how many people I've known over the past 15 years who put all their eggs in one basket, then watched as their cash cow went out of business or changed their method of operation, etc, and then had their income stream evaporate instantly. I always had at least 1-2 dozen programs on the go, promoting collectively a hundred or more pay sites. Whenever a site or entire program went down or ceased to exist the effect on my bottom line was negligeable.

                          Then again I wasn't running just one website. More like dozens. Only promoting what I like or just one program would have been about the worst thing I could have done.


                          By the way just curious, how many neighborhood kids did that dog in your avatar have to eat to get that fat?
                          Makes sense, but I'm crazy enough to enjoy several kinky and lustful things So I have tons of things to promote who I really enjoy.

                          Diversify? Yes. Disperse? No. There's a limit. If I had one million visits every day I could promote ten programs, but I still prefer stick with a few. I build "generic" niche sites, and I can change what I'm promoting anytime. If a program stop paying or close the doors, I can start promoting a different one on that niche. Of course, I'll lose my recurring payments, but this is something that I can't prevent.

                          It's easy to manage and focus, but this is a personal choice, idea, and recommendation. If you prefer to promote dozens of programs, and you can make a good money with each one of them, cool. Alternatively, if you can only make a few dollars, that's up to you.

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                          • "GGG" Guenter
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 146

                            #14
                            Great Idea :-)

                            Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                            Promote gay dating sites - Most of the issues you talk about don't exist...
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                            • JFK
                              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 67369

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sarah_Jayne
                              I've been thinking with my non-existent penis for 14 years or so now.
                              The penis pills didnt help ?

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                              • helterskelter808
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 3405

                                #16
                                This is the most long-winded 'see sig' spam I've ever seen.

                                Try to make it slightly bigger though, there may be people on other planets who can't see your one sale.

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