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Webmaster Advertising 05-14-2013 01:50 PM

Should Fat People Be Shamed?
 
If they know they are fat and not doing anything about it?

I gotta admit, I'm not exactly a small framed guy myself, but I'm not morbidly obese either, those who are fat and don't seem to have any thought about losing some of their weight, do you think they should be shamed to lose weight (so long as it doesn't go overboard)?

Webmaster Advertising 05-14-2013 01:51 PM

Just to clarify, I mean grown adults, who should know better, not abused kids who's parents feed them McDonalds for breakfast, lunch and dinner...

TheSquealer 05-14-2013 01:52 PM

They should be accountable. If you want to eat cookies and ice cream and cheeseburgers all day long, then you should also have to purchase 2 plane tickets and pay more for health care. People who end up with illness related to smoking, drinking and eating too much should be paying for it.

Choopa Phil 05-14-2013 01:53 PM

They shouldnt be shamed, but they should be put on type of program. No offense to any over weight individuals but when you get so big youre in your own way, chances are youre in everyone else's as well. I live my life by this - "You get as much respect as you give yourself" the 1 in 1000 that has a glandular issue is the exception to the rule.

Webmaster Advertising 05-14-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19624718)
They shouldnt be shamed, but they should be put on type of program. No offense to any over weight individuals but when you get so big youre in your own way, chances are youre in everyone else's as well. I live my life by this - "You get as much respect as you give yourself" the 1 in 1000 that has a glandular issue is the exception to the rule.

A government program for fat people would be awesome, it would (in the long run) probably save millions of dollars for the rest of us on health insurance and the likes.

Its weird though you say 1:1000 for glandular issues, most fat people seem to say they have those so I'm wondering if there is a glandular pandemic going around that the rest of us don't know about?

grumpy 05-14-2013 01:55 PM

How about people that play sports?

Webmaster Advertising 05-14-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 19624721)
How about people that play sports?

Are they fat?

Penny24Seven 05-14-2013 01:57 PM

no I am not a fatty but this shows how much thought you put into this.
What about those who smoke? Drink everyday? Do drugs?
Drunk driving kills more people then fat people crashing while eating a bigmac.
2nd hand smoke kills others but when fatty eating 40 chicken nuggets he doesn't give me cancer LOL.
These are just a couple that I would shame before the fatties.

dyna mo 05-14-2013 01:57 PM

holy shit, this thread. wow, the nerve. talk about finger pointing.

Tofu 05-14-2013 01:58 PM

Im just going to stick this right here....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/6b9856e81...toz1o1_500.jpg

Choopa Phil 05-14-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19624720)
A government program for fat people would be awesome, it would (in the long run) probably save millions of dollars for the rest of us on health insurance and the likes.

Its weird though you say 1:1000 for glandular issues, most fat people seem to say they have those so I'm wondering if there is a glandular pandemic going around that the rest of us don't know about?

Thats what i mean its a constant scape goat. The ones who are too overweight to walk and need one of those power chairs...now those people need to be shamed.

dyna mo 05-14-2013 01:58 PM

porners saying the government should enact a program requiring fat people to toe some sort of line.

wow.

round up the "fat" people 1st, porners next.

Tofu 05-14-2013 01:59 PM

...and this.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4981c4b11...ufldo1_500.jpg




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pimpware 05-14-2013 02:01 PM

It's not about to be ashamed it's about be fubar :2 cents:
Please don't point your finger to other people.



Btw, 30 lbs off in 55 days :pimp

sarah-teamcmp 05-14-2013 02:02 PM

A big part of the problem is that enough people are not educated on how their food choices impact their weight. I'm not talking about fad diets or restricting all carbs. I'm talking about the actual studies that show processed foods are used by the body differently. The easiest example is high fructose corn syrup and sugar. The white beet sugar can be stored by the body in a way that makes it easy to use for energy, but the HFCS attaches to muscles making it extremely difficult to get rid of. Problem is most people don't know that HFCS can be found in everything from ice cream to ketchup and we consume it in a much larger amount than we think we do.

Simply put, education would be helpful.

Choopa Phil 05-14-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah-teamcmp (Post 19624738)
A big part of the problem is that enough people are not educated on how their food choices impact their weight. I'm not talking about fad diets or restricting all carbs. I'm talking about the actual studies that show processed foods are used by the body differently. The easiest example is high fructose corn syrup and sugar. The white beet sugar can be stored by the body in a way that makes it easy to use for energy, but the HFCS attaches to muscles making it extremely difficult to get rid of. Problem is most people don't know that HFCS can be found in everything from ice cream to ketchup and we consume it in a much larger amount than we think we do.

Simply put, education would be helpful.

An education, by the gov't who backs HFCS. Good luck.

signupdamnit 05-14-2013 02:11 PM

Should it be discouraged through things like education? Absolutely. Should some holier-than-thou type be running around persecuting fat people to "make them not be fat"? No. That's just ignorance and as far as I'm concerned being ignorant is far worse than being fat.

Dankasaur 05-14-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19624713)
Should Fat People Be Shamed?

Should ignorant people be shamed?

sarah-teamcmp 05-14-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19624741)
An education, by the gov't who backs HFCS. Good luck.

I wouldn't sit with my hand on my ass waiting for it, just saying thats what these people need instead of shame

GrantMercury 05-14-2013 02:13 PM

Michelle Obama tries to bring awareness to the obesity issue. Retards scream about "gubmint overreach".

http://www.letsmove.gov/about

Choopa Phil 05-14-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah-teamcmp (Post 19624753)
I wouldn't sit with my hand on my ass waiting for it, just saying thats what these people need instead of shame

Hey lets get serious, its not 100% foods fault they got fat. It takes time to gain wait it doesnt happen over night.

dyna mo 05-14-2013 02:15 PM

seems to me if education via government is an option, then government working with businesses to educate them on not using corn syrup woulg go further.

sarah-teamcmp 05-14-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19624757)
Hey lets get serious, its not 100% foods fault they got fat. It takes time to gain wait it doesnt happen over night.

You're right. It also takes a good support network to keep people focused on longterm weight loss. I have been there for friends and family and always had a supportive attitude. I don't think they would have stuck with it had I just called them fat asses haha

brassmonkey 05-14-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19624731)

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brassmonkey 05-14-2013 02:21 PM

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GrantMercury 05-14-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19624759)
seems to me if education via government is an option, then government working with businesses to educate them on not using corn syrup woulg go further.

Agreed. :thumbsup

Tofu 05-14-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19624766)

OMG, yes!



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Choopa Phil 05-14-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah-teamcmp (Post 19624762)
You're right. It also takes a good support network to keep people focused on longterm weight loss. I have been there for friends and family and always had a supportive attitude. I don't think they would have stuck with it had I just called them fat asses haha

The point is why do you NEED someone to support you for YOU to be healthy. You should want to be that way. Thats beyond education thats called "wanting it bad enough" just with anything else in life

Sly 05-14-2013 02:24 PM

I learned all about healthy food choices in school. Every year throughout school. I now have the Internet where I can get information on anything and everything under the sun. I can go in the other room, turn on the TV, flip through the channels and find at minimum 2 shows about food/fitness/healthy living.

We are now part of the information age. It's all out there, waiting to be absorbed. Lack of education is no longer a viable excuse in the Western world.

Choopa Phil 05-14-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19624783)
I learned all about healthy food choices in school. Every year throughout school. I now have the Internet where I can get information on anything and everything under the sun. I can go in the other room, turn on the TV, flip through the channels and find at minimum 2 shows about food/fitness/healthy living.

We are now part of the information age. It's all out there, waiting to be absorbed. Lack of education is no longer a viable excuse in the Western world.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 05-14-2013 02:30 PM

You just pray they don't start taxing dumbness in your country ...

dyna mo 05-14-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19624783)
I learned all about healthy food choices in school. Every year throughout school. I now have the Internet where I can get information on anything and everything under the sun. I can go in the other room, turn on the TV, flip through the channels and find at minimum 2 shows about food/fitness/healthy living.

We are now part of the information age. It's all out there, waiting to be absorbed. Lack of education is no longer a viable excuse in the Western world.

people don't eat that way.

what are you hungry for? mmmmmm, a hamburger sounds good! it's not what is your body hungry for, it's what sounds good for dinner!

what are you really hungry for? well, i need some protein, a bit of carbs and some fat, oh and some fiber.

Captain Kawaii 05-14-2013 02:38 PM

Worry about yourselves. I am sure everyone here could be picked apart in a matter of minutes.

brassmonkey 05-14-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 19624793)
You just pray they don't start taxing dumbness in your country ...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

harvey 05-14-2013 02:41 PM

shame for being fat? is this thread for real? You should be ashamed of doing bad things, causing harm, pain, being a prick, a thief, a criminal... but.... being ashamed of being fat? I'm not fat (I've some overweight now that I spent 1 year in bed, and still nobody would call me fat) but really, can't believe this. One thing is being worried or concerned, but... ASHAMED???? Give me a break :disgust

_Richard_ 05-14-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah-teamcmp (Post 19624762)
You're right. It also takes a good support network to keep people focused on longterm weight loss. I have been there for friends and family and always had a supportive attitude. I don't think they would have stuck with it had I just called them fat asses haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19624781)
The point is why do you NEED someone to support you for YOU to be healthy. You should want to be that way. Thats beyond education thats called "wanting it bad enough" just with anything else in life

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When You're Poor ...
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helterskelter808 05-14-2013 02:45 PM

In my experience the people who are most hard on fat people, or negatively comment on how fat other people are, are usually fat themselves.

scuba steve 05-14-2013 02:49 PM

kinda depends on why they are fat no?

harvey 05-14-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 19624839)
kinda depends on why they are fat no?

well, it can be for many reasons, usually health conditions, psychological reasons and eating for pleasure. About health, they can do little. Psychological... depends on the pathology, but really difficult as well. About pleasure... well, guess I'd take relatively seriously to some kind of crazy fucker who avoids pleasure at all costs (and I'd take them seriously because I know they're sick). So, to anyone here saying fat people should be ashamed, let me ask you: did you stop doing EVERYTHING that gives you pleasure? If so, let's talk. Otherwise... well, you're just a dumb fucker. With all due respect, of course

EddyTheDog 05-14-2013 03:07 PM

Food for some people can be very addictive - There are chemicals in the brain that are released when you eat and in some people they can be as addictive as nicotine or crack...

I am not saying its the case with everybody, but its the case with a lot of people - Especially those who binge...

Sly 05-14-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19624866)
Food for some people can be very addictive - There are chemicals in the brain that are released when you eat and in some people they can be as addictive as nicotine or crack...

And yet we shame drug users right and left for those same chemical addictions.

96ukssob 05-14-2013 03:12 PM

yes, just like stupid people should be. There is no reason for either one unless you have a medical condition which you can't help.

fat people can lose weight. stupid people will always be stupid and should be drug out to the street and shot.

dyna mo 05-14-2013 03:13 PM

maybe we should start rationing ice creams.

kane 05-14-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19624716)
They should be accountable. If you want to eat cookies and ice cream and cheeseburgers all day long, then you should also have to purchase 2 plane tickets and pay more for health care. People who end up with illness related to smoking, drinking and eating too much should be paying for it.

To me this is heading down a slippery slope.

If you have family members who have diabetes, heart disease, cancer, high blood pressure or any number of other ailments that can often be genetically passed on to someone should those people have to pay more for healthcare? The odds are they will likely end up costing more than the average person.

The two seat thing I don't have a problem with. I spent most of my life overweight and finally got a hold of it a few years ago. I lost a lot of weight and feel so much better now. The way I looked at it was that it was unfair of me to do something where my size my impede on someone else's life so if I had to fly I either paid for two seats or sometimes I flew with friends etc who told me they didn't care if it was a little cramped. Hell, on most airlines anyone over 125 pounds it too big for those seats.

However, I found most people didn't have the same courtesy. I don't how many flights I have been on where people let their kids run around, scream, yell and act terrible. On one flight there was a woman and her three kids behind me. They were all 8-12 years old. They spent the whole flight kicking my chair and screaming. Several people asked them to stop and she just shrugged and said, "They are kids. They will act like kids."

_Richard_ 05-14-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19624866)
Food for some people can be very addictive - There are chemicals in the brain that are released when you eat and in some people they can be as addictive as nicotine or crack...

I am not saying its the case with everybody, but its the case with a lot of people - Especially those who binge...

but for addiction to work.. lets say cigarettes and booze

so you drink booze, and really want a cigarette.. that's based on one addiction being fed, and therefore your body 'wanting all your addictions'

so, if sugar is considered addictive..

harvey 05-14-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19624869)
And yet we shame drug users right and left for those same chemical addictions.

no, you're absolutely wrong. You shame them if they're caught doing some retard thing, the same retard thing you would shame them whether they were using drugs or not. I don't see you shaming the entire music, movies and art industry, let alone politicians, sports or the mature lady eating pills as if they were bonbons . Same goes for people drinking, smoking, having sex, watching TV or doing a 2 days row to buy the new iPhone when it hits the streets.

EddyTheDog 05-14-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19624869)
And yet we shame drug users right and left for those same chemical addictions.

I was just pointing out there are various reasons people get fat - Its not just being a 'lazy pig'...

I have never thought that shaming addicts is a good way of helping them - What do you think shaming someone with an addiction they use to cope with life's stresses is going to make them do?

harvey 05-14-2013 03:18 PM

bottom line is some GFY peeps are surprisingly conservative and anti-freedom.

That's why this is such a funny place to hang around, it's like an IQ roller-coaster :thumbsup

dyna mo 05-14-2013 03:21 PM

it's western civilization, we thrive on shame! shaming others and getting shamed. it's what we do.

96ukssob 05-14-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19624882)
Quote:

Regarding fat people buying 2 plane tickets...
To me this is heading down a slippery slope.

If you have family members who have diabetes, heart disease, cancer, high blood pressure or any number of other ailments that can often be genetically passed on to someone should those people have to pay more for healthcare? The odds are they will likely end up costing more than the average person.

The two seat thing I don't have a problem with. I spent most of my life overweight and finally got a hold of it a few years ago. I lost a lot of weight and feel so much better now. The way I looked at it was that it was unfair of me to do something where my size my impede on someone else's life so if I had to fly I either paid for two seats or sometimes I flew with friends etc who told me they didn't care if it was a little cramped. Hell, on most airlines anyone over 125 pounds it too big for those seats.

However, I found most people didn't have the same courtesy. I don't how many flights I have been on where people let their kids run around, scream, yell and act terrible. On one flight there was a woman and her three kids behind me. They were all 8-12 years old. They spent the whole flight kicking my chair and screaming. Several people asked them to stop and she just shrugged and said, "They are kids. They will act like kids."

How much of this can be solved by the airlines? If people create "profiles" with their height and weight, they can easily put together a system based on BMI for better seat preferences.

This would solve so many issues... but then people would cry and cause problems, saying the airlines are being judgmental and hurting their feelings.

We, as Americans, are a bunch of whinning crying pussies who would rather stir up problems then fix them with easy solutions that could, and maybe, hurt our poor little feelings... plus, we would have to contend with the sue happy lawyers looking to get rich over every little thing.


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