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Barefootsies 05-07-2013 06:17 PM

The Sun Is Setting on the American Economy
 
People have been warning about it for years.... :Oh crap

Quote:

"We have been in a bubble I believe for the last 20 or 30 years, we have a central bank that is now totally out of control, printing money like never before, violating every principle of sound money," Stockman told TheBlaze senior contributor Mallory Factor in video interview (below). "Our budget has really become a doomsday machine. Nothing is really in sight thats going to slow down the red ink."
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"There's plenty of blame to go around, its bipartisan," Stockman said. Obama came in with a terrible economic condition because of Bush, according to Stockman, "Remember Bush created massive deficits during peace time."

Bman 05-07-2013 06:18 PM

Part of the problem is Iran, North Korea and CHina are printing US dollars too...:2 cents:

then again I think most countries are in a heap of trouble, if the US goes down so will everybody else.

lucas131 05-07-2013 06:20 PM

yes sun is bad for everyone, i hope america will bomb the sun!

tony286 05-07-2013 06:22 PM

Meanwhile a Hedge fund manager says

http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/02/news...edge-fund-fed/

Hedge fund manager Dan Arbess thinks the Federal Reserve should use its 'printing press' to funnel money directly to the Treasury instead of simply buying more bonds.

So who do we believe?

xNetworx 05-07-2013 06:22 PM

http://dontdrinkbeer.files.wordpress...gain_super.jpg

Barefootsies 05-07-2013 06:28 PM

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Outdoor chefs are in for an unhappy surprise as the summer grilling season approaches: The cost to fire up a backyard barbecue is going up.

The price of wholesale beef hit an all-time high Friday and there is no indication it will decline this year. While the price of beef alone is up at least 5 percent, that summer cookout is going to feel much more expensive to any serious barbecue aficionado buying good-quality meat.

bronco67 05-07-2013 06:31 PM

Stockman notes that he agrees with the Libertarian-Republican on a lot of things, especially the pledge that "we cannot borrow, and inflate and print our way to prosperity,"as we've been doing.

The Republican philosophy is kind of ironic, since they never adhere to it.

iSpyCams 05-07-2013 06:36 PM

A 5% increase in the price of beef is surely a portent of the end of days.

EriktheRabbit 05-07-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman (Post 19615793)
Part of the problem is Iran, North Korea and CHina are printing US dollars too...:2 cents:

then again I think most countries are in a heap of trouble, if the US goes down so will everybody else.

There are plenty of countries that will be just fine.

Supz 05-07-2013 09:11 PM

Except the stock market is hitting all time highs and people are making money hand over fist. We must be fucked.

Phoenix 05-07-2013 10:18 PM

the malls are packed and restaurants seem busy also

StickyGreen 05-07-2013 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19615928)
Except the stock market is hitting all time highs and people are making money hand over fist. We must be fucked.

I really hope you're joking... the DJIA is hardly a sufficient indicator of the economy in general... people are hurting and the FED is printing something like $85 BILLION of new U.S. dollars A MONTH... the only reason we aren't experiencing inflation or even hyperinflation yet is because it's being quietly exported...

Who knows exactly how long they can keep up this charade of propping up the economy, but it isn't going to end well...

2013 05-08-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19615798)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 05-08-2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bman (Post 19615793)
Part of the problem is Iran, North Korea and CHina are printing US dollars too...:2 cents:

then again I think most countries are in a heap of trouble, if the US goes down so will everybody else.

the real problem is that you are exporting your inflation to keep your economy strong...this is the mother of all bubbles :1orglaugh = your economy

inflation is the USA-s largest export:

http://theeconomicanalyst.com/conten...port-inflation

you have it easy, you command most of the oil, make it be sold for your inflation dollar artificially raising the $ price, then you are printing more money and buying up bonds and flooding the market with cash...

the sun set on the american economy a long time ago...the only thing that is keeping you from not sinking is that you are slowly pulling others down with you by exporting your troubles by printing absurd amounts of cash and, basically giving out checks with no real money to back it up...factor in the outsourcing and the rampant corruption that the US corporate government is dying from and you get a clear picture...

privatesociety 05-08-2013 02:37 AM

This is why I say buy gold and silver.... when things do go wrong, paper money becomes almost worthless and hyperinflation sets in, gold and silver will be king

Paul 05-08-2013 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19616033)
The sun set on the american economy a long time ago...the only thing that is keeping you from not sinking is that you are slowly pulling others down with you by exporting your troubles by printing absurd amounts of cash and, basically giving out checks with no real money to back it up...factor in the outsourcing and the rampant corruption that the US corporate government is dying from and you get a clear picture...

1971 - Secretary of the US Treasury John Connally told a group of European finance ministers that the dollar was ?our currency, and your problem.?

pimpmaster9000 05-08-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19616202)
1971 - Secretary of the US Treasury John Connally told a group of European finance ministers that the dollar was ?our currency, and your problem.?

came back to bite him in the ass tho...all them petro dollars got unloaded back in the USA when the arabs started buying up chunks of the US economy...

purecane 05-08-2013 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19616033)
the real problem is that you are exporting your inflation to keep your economy strong...this is the mother of all bubbles :1orglaugh = your economy

inflation is the USA-s largest export:

http://theeconomicanalyst.com/conten...port-inflation

you have it easy, you command most of the oil, make it be sold for your inflation dollar artificially raising the $ price, then you are printing more money and buying up bonds and flooding the market with cash...

the sun set on the american economy a long time ago...the only thing that is keeping you from not sinking is that you are slowly pulling others down with you by exporting your troubles by printing absurd amounts of cash and, basically giving out checks with no real money to back it up...factor in the outsourcing and the rampant corruption that the US corporate government is dying from and you get a clear picture...

i have a problem with you saying "you" all the time...WE don't get to make those decisions. the Arabs bought this country fair and square. next time you wanna dictate a conversation, please use the correct narrative.

Antonio 05-08-2013 05:53 AM

yeah, compared to the EU economy, which is flourishing

dyna mo 05-08-2013 06:22 AM

the article in the op was written and published to sell stockman's new book,

fear sells. congrats, you bought it.

Joshua G 05-08-2013 06:44 AM

the US will go bankrupt someday. its effects are unpredictable. But the ship wont sink. the ship is so huge now, the only 2 things that can stop the economy is plague or WMD. should the government default it will just reorganize/nullify the debt. move on to another reserve currency to replace the worthless dollar. the bond losers will get it back in BTC.

JFK 05-08-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19616289)
the article in the op was written and published to sell stockman's new book,

fear sells. congrats, you bought it.

yes, but there could be grains of thruth in there:2 cents:

dyna mo 05-08-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19616301)
yes, but there could be grains of thruth in there:2 cents:

cmaybe, but so what.

"the sun is setting on the american economy."

that's not a conclusion, that's sensationalism.



fear, same shit different decade. 60s, 70s, 80s, 90, 2000s, the end is near.

pimpmaster9000 05-08-2013 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19616275)
i have a problem with you saying "you" all the time...WE don't get to make those decisions. the Arabs bought this country fair and square. next time you wanna dictate a conversation, please use the correct narrative.


but you get to enjoy the benefits and support the ones enforcing them....its not like you mind too much...

Paul 05-08-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19616313)
fear, same shit different decade. 60s, 70s, 80s, 90, 2000s, the end is near.

There is no doubt that globally things are changing but I see a gradual decline taking decades instead of an all out collapse, just can't happen as long as the Petrol dollar is the worlds reserve currency.

China would love to change that and they've been actively doing so aggressively since 07 - 08 but that's what the oil wars are all about.

Next up - Iran

It'll be interesting to see if Russia & China want to go against America

FingerPrinter 05-08-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 19615812)
A 5% increase in the price of beef is surely a portent of the end of days.

http://i.imgur.com/I8Oum.gif

dyna mo 05-08-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19616333)
There is no doubt that globally things are changing but I see a gradual decline taking decades instead of an all out collapse, just can't happen as long as the Petrol dollar is the worlds reserve currency.

China would love to change that and they've been actively doing so aggressively since 07 - 08 but that's what the oil wars are all about.

Next up - Iran

It'll be interesting to see if Russia & China want to go against America

yes, graudual declines are natural, everything has a timeline and is in constant motion.

the wrench in the guessing game is the fact that the u.s. will soon be the world's largest oil producer. i don't see the sun setting on that.

_Richard_ 05-08-2013 07:56 AM

a little simplistic

StickyGreen 05-08-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19616313)


fear, same shit different decade. 60s, 70s, 80s, 90, 2000s, the end is near.

Wtf are you talking about? We have never seen something like what is currently going on...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSg...ey+Supply1.png

Do you see that ridiculous spike around 2008? Do you even understand what that means for the U.S. dollar? The only reason we aren't experiencing severe hyperinflation yet is because it's being exported.

Everything is perfectly fine bro... put your fucking head back in the sand... lol

brassmonkey 05-08-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19615798)

:1orglaugh


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