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halfpint 04-20-2013 01:47 PM

Russia asked FBI to investigate Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 ? report
 
Russia asked the FBI to investigate Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, a source in US law enforcement told Reuters. The FBI had earlier reported on its website that an unnamed ?foreign government? had asked them for information.

The slain Boston marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who previously was designated as Suspect 1, was investigated in 2011 by the FBI upon a certain foreign state?s request.

The state, which was not identified in the statement on the FBI website, filed a request concerning Tsarnaev saying that he was a follower of radical Islam and was preparing to leave the US for a particular region to join ?unspecified underground groups.?

The FBI says they checked all the information possible, looking for ?derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest,? and checking the suspect?s travel history, plans, and education history.

Tsarnaev and his family members were also interviewed by the FBI.

The full story here

http://rt.com/news/fbi-tsarnaev-foreign-request-150/

2013 04-20-2013 01:48 PM

thanks for last weeks story

halfpint 04-20-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19588818)
thanks for last weeks story

Your very welcome

dyna mo 04-20-2013 01:53 PM

there's no reason to think they didn't do their job at that time

from the article

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The FBI says they checked all the information possible, looking for ?derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest,? and checking the suspect?s travel history, plans, and education history.
there's nothing to suggest he had ties at that time or now even.

halfpint 04-20-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19588824)
there's no reason to think they didn't do their job at that time

from the article



there's nothing to suggest he had ties at that time or now even.

Homegrown terror: 'FBI thought Chechens would only attack Russians'

The Tsarnaev brothers managed to slip through the US security net and commit the Boston attack because of oversights in American intelligence, experts told RT. This act of “homegrown” terror has raised serious questions about the role of the FBI.

The US press has traditionally portrayed Chechen terrorism as a specifically Russian issue, and as such assumed that they would not be hostile toward the US, journalist Neil Clark told RT in an interview.

“It could be because of their Chechen background, because I think the way that this conflict [the Chechen Wars of 1994-96 and 1999-2009] has been portrayed in the Western media, the American media, has been that the Russians have been the bad guys,” noted Clark. He suggested that this stigma attached to Chechnya could be the reason why security checks were not carried out on the Tsarnaev brothers arrived in the US.

“Their thought was ‘These people have a Chechen background if they’re going to be attacking anybody it’s going to be Russian targets, not American targets,’” said Clark. Dzhokhar had received US citizenship and lived in America for a number of years, while his older brother Tamerlan was a legal permanent resident.

Political commentator, Aleksandr Nekrasov noted there is a “certain state of shock that these two people are connected to Chechnya.” “But I think that they are shocked because I think that basically the intelligence services were expecting some loner, maybe some Nazi, some white supremacist, who got his grievances with the federal Government,” Nekrasov told RT. He went on to say that in spite of the existence of a YouTube account where the brothers broadcast the fact that they were from Chechnya and “didn’t hide the fact that they were terrorists,” the FBI did not flag the brothers as a potential terrorist threat.

http://rt.com/op-edge/terror-homegro...naev-bomb-138/

TheFootMan5 04-20-2013 02:46 PM

I thought the FBI had nothing to do with this? :1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-20-2013 02:49 PM

that article is a journalist interviewing a journalist and quoting him as an expert.

i'm not saying something didn't slip through the cracks, but the fact is that at this moment, there's nothing to suggest he was a chechen terrorist in 2011.

not saying more will be revealed, but at this very moment, all indications still point to the brothers acting alone, according to the latest news updates.

TheFootMan5 04-20-2013 02:53 PM

SO the FBI let it happen

anexsia 04-20-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19588882)
SO the FBI let it happen

No, now go troll infowars.

halfpint 04-20-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19588872)
that article is a journalist interviewing a journalist and quoting him as an expert.

i'm not saying something didn't slip through the cracks, but the fact is that at this moment, there's nothing to suggest he was a chechen terrorist in 2011.

not saying more will be revealed, but at this very moment, all indications still point to the brothers acting alone, according to the latest news updates.

"YouTube account where the brothers broadcast the fact that they were from Chechnya and ?didn?t hide the fact that they were terrorists,? the FBI did not flag the brothers as a potential terrorist threat."

I think that alone should have rang alarm bells. When people are stopped from entering the US who have drug related convictions who are potentially far less of a threat to the US than what these guys were then something obviously went wrong with the intel/checks.

2013 04-20-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19588882)
SO the FBI let it happen

i bet they are watching you...

dyna mo 04-20-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19588898)
"YouTube account where the brothers broadcast the fact that they were from Chechnya and ?didn?t hide the fact that they were terrorists,? the FBI did not flag the brothers as a potential terrorist threat."

I think that alone should have rang alarm bells. When people are stopped from entering the US who have drug related convictions who are potentially far less of a threat to the US than what these guys were then something obviously went wrong with the intel/checks.

yes, i agree. but, from some other articles i came across last night, i got the impression that the youtube vids and such were uploaded after the request from russia to vet him. i am trying to dig up those so we can perhaps sort out the timeline.

halfpint 04-20-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19588910)
yes, i agree. but, from some other articles i came across last night, i got the impression that the youtube vids and such were uploaded after the request from russia to vet him. i am trying to dig up those so we can perhaps sort out the timeline.

Well how ever it pans out in the end, its very sad that this even happened to people who were just enjoying a day of sports, and I sure hope it never happens again.

dyna mo 04-20-2013 03:13 PM

here's his youtube channel, join date 2012.

https://youtube.com/user/muazseyfullah/videos?view=0

dyna mo 04-20-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19588917)
Well how ever it pans out in the end, its very sad that this even happened to people who were just enjoying a day of sports, and I sure hope it never happens again.

no doubt.



the other angle too, is the fbi is under strict guidelines when asked to investigate u.s. citizens by other countries. procedures and deadlines, etc. perhaps something along those lines might have come into play. i bet we will learn a lot more about this angle soon.

TheFootMan5 04-20-2013 03:20 PM

Sounds like a cover-up to me


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