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nexcom28 04-10-2013 11:14 AM

Bitcoin down $80
 
It had to happen, looks like the bubble finally burst.

~Ray 04-10-2013 11:15 AM

I noticed that. I sold/traded most of mine last night.

- Jesus Christ - 04-10-2013 11:17 AM

lol keep watching

2013 04-10-2013 11:17 AM

ah that sucks

Paul&John 04-10-2013 11:20 AM

any chart site which isnt down? :)

dyna mo 04-10-2013 11:22 AM

down $109 according to mtgox

dyna mo 04-10-2013 11:22 AM

i've been waiting 2 weeks for it to drop and almost said fuck it this last night/morning and bought back in.

Dirty F 04-10-2013 11:23 AM

Yup, it could be over :)

~Ray 04-10-2013 11:24 AM

Buy buy buy @ 130

nexcom28 04-10-2013 11:26 AM

http://bitcoinity.org/markets/mtgox/USD

Edit, I get bad gateway when I try to view this link now.

Slappin Fish 04-10-2013 11:28 AM

That's one of the problems with bitcoin, low volume means it's easily manipulated by those with enough cash to play pump and dump.

spiederman 04-10-2013 11:29 AM

damn, when i left for dinner it was still going on 230$ or something

just a punk 04-10-2013 11:31 AM

Lol )

- Jesus Christ - 04-10-2013 11:31 AM

If you know a market has low liquidity and you know gox has SHITTY infrastructure you act accordingly. If you dont know... someone smarter than you gets your coins cheap.

No one is being "manipulated". It's called a free market.

jscott 04-10-2013 11:33 AM

All the sites are having attacks

spiederman 04-10-2013 11:33 AM

ahhhh shit, here they come
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cCYbxxHhP6...hindsight2.jpg

jscott 04-10-2013 11:37 AM

Hahahaha cute LOL

seeandsee 04-10-2013 11:40 AM

I know, don't tell me

jscott 04-10-2013 11:41 AM

ANYONE WANT TO SELL?

Contact me 130321510

I'm buying :)

spiederman 04-10-2013 11:44 AM

as mentionned in another thread

1. Ddos the exchanges
2. watch the price drop
3. buy all the panicsells
4. ????
5, profit

rinse and repeat every week

seeandsee 04-10-2013 11:45 AM

I'l buy some for 5$

Slappin Fish 04-10-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 19571485)
If you know a market has low liquidity and you know gox has SHITTY infrastructure you act accordingly. If you dont know... someone smarter than you gets your coins cheap.

No one is being "manipulated". It's called a free market.

All markets are manipulated to some degree.

With such low volume it's easy for mainstream investors to buy a few millions worth every day, watch the price rise, dump it all at once, buy it back, etc.

Doesn't mean it won't keep going much higher, or that current price doesn't reflect intrinsic value.

just a punk 04-10-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 19571454)
any chart site which isnt down? :)

http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/

nexcom28 04-10-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19571523)

That is one shitty tracker.

- Jesus Christ - 04-10-2013 11:54 AM

Manipulation is a word people use when they don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

I haven't read any stories of people with guns to their head being forced to place sell orders.

Paul&John 04-10-2013 11:57 AM

hm where are these people selling their bitcoins? so in other question where can we buy in? ;)

Sly 04-10-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiederman (Post 19571510)
as mentionned in another thread

1. Ddos the exchanges
2. watch the price drop
3. buy all the panicsells
4. ????
5, profit

rinse and repeat every week

You can't rinse and repeat if faith in the currency ceases to exist. If nobody has faith, who is buying? The other pump and dumpers?

Slappin Fish 04-10-2013 12:19 PM

A ddos attack following big sell orders to create panic is a market manipulation, anything that interferes with the free and fair operation of the market is a manipulation.

Doesn't matter if people had guns to their heads.

It's actually the definition of free markets. prices dictated solely by supply and demand left 'free' of any interference.

Penny24Seven 04-10-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19571462)
Yup, it could be over :)

how can you be happy about this? LOL

- Jesus Christ - 04-10-2013 12:21 PM

Is anyone stopping you from using another exchange?
Even opening another exchange?

spiederman 04-10-2013 12:25 PM

http://i.imgur.com/8Ntfxef.jpg

just a punk 04-10-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexcom28 (Post 19571526)
That is one shitty tracker.

But it isn't down at least...

MainstreamGuy 04-10-2013 12:27 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7IY1IevEI.../s1600/Jew.gif

Dirty F 04-10-2013 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19571607)
how can you be happy about this? LOL

Not happy. Just no panic or anything here.
If it's over it's over.
But i doubt it is. I think it will grow again. But we will see the same thing happen again in 2 weeks. So, we have a problem if this thing wants to grow. People will lose trust. They already did after this massive crash.
Imagine this happening again in 10 days.

BlackCrayon 04-10-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19571630)
Not happy. Just no panic or anything here.
If it's over it's over.
But i doubt it is. I think it will grow again. But we will see the same thing happen again in 2 weeks. So, we have a problem if this thing wants to grow. People will lose trust. They already did after this massive crash.
Imagine this happening again in 10 days.

there are way too many people waiting to buy in at a low price for it to die anytime soon. eventually i think it will run out of steam once enough people have bought or sold at the wrong time but for the time being every time it goes down, i'm sure it will go back up again.

nexcom28 04-10-2013 12:33 PM

People need to stop buying just to make money for investment and actually use it for it's intended purpose - to buy stuff.

spiederman 04-10-2013 12:42 PM

http://i.imgur.com/B2nHpv5.png

nexcom28 04-10-2013 12:42 PM

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3654/dropo.png

Slappin Fish 04-10-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 19571609)
Is anyone stopping you from using another exchange?
Even opening another exchange?

Fuck sake I'm not even a bitcoin hater, far from it.

If I pollute a river upstream to buy farm land at depressed prices I am manipulating prices, doesn't matter if nothing is stopping me from making my own lake or even moving to another state.

Definition of free market is not free-for-all but FREE of interference. interference doesn't come much more clear cut than a DDOS attack.

Now if you want to have the last word no worries carry on. I'm done.

Paul&John 04-10-2013 01:07 PM

ok where can somebody buy atm?

mineistaken 04-10-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 19571527)
Manipulation is a word people use when they don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

I haven't read any stories of people with guns to their head being forced to place sell orders.

So when people say "that woman is one manipulative bitch" they mean she is holding a gun and making others do stuff? :winkwink:
If you do not fall to manipulation it does not mean manipulation did not exist.

jscott 04-10-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexcom28 (Post 19571467)
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/mtgox/USD

Edit, I get bad gateway when I try to view this link now.

all are being attacked
http://www.talkbitcoins.com/talk-bit...ny-others/184/
:disgust

- Jesus Christ - 04-10-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19571663)
Fuck sake I'm not even a bitcoin hater, far from it.

If I pollute a river upstream to buy farm land at depressed prices I am manipulating prices, doesn't matter if nothing is stopping me from making my own lake or even moving to another state.

Definition of free market is not free-for-all but FREE of interference. interference doesn't come much more clear cut than a DDOS attack.

Now if you want to have the last word no worries carry on. I'm done.

I didn't call you a hater. I'm just debating the topic. It's fine if you don't want to.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19571716)
So when people say "that woman is one manipulative bitch" they mean she is holding a gun and making others do stuff? :winkwink:
If you do not fall to manipulation it does not mean manipulation did not exist.

Usually when a girl gets one over on me I take responsibility for misplacing my trust and I don't let it happen again. Gox has had this problem over and over If I let the same girl do the same shit to me repeatedly... then I deserve it.

In a free market the actors learn whats going on and adapt. In a state controlled market you have daddy government holding your hand doing all kinds of shit that causes market distortions.

CAHEK 04-10-2013 01:14 PM

http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpr...3-16-56-pm.png


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