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ninavain 03-20-2013 10:33 PM

can BITCOIN put an end to the FEDERAL RESERVE
 
this is growing.. does anyone knows who created it..will it be a game changer


2013 03-20-2013 10:34 PM

Error Video to FUCKING LONG :error

ninavain 03-20-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19538497)
Error Video to FUCKING LONG :error


2013 03-20-2013 10:37 PM

i was hoping it was a suicide video
http://www.investitwisely.com/wordpr...coin-heist.jpg

it seems as if bitcoins sites dissappeared like epassoporte you would be fucked and thats what happens next

MrMaxwell 03-20-2013 10:46 PM

The Fed is a lot more powerful than our government and extremely more powerful than some computer nerds with a new pseudo money currency. I wish they could be stopped, I really do, but don't bet on it.

mechanicvirus 03-21-2013 12:34 AM

Believe it or not, PBBC did a study on this and it's actually pretty interesting.

grumpy 03-21-2013 04:13 AM

there is no ferderalreserve ( not anymore )

seeandsee 03-21-2013 04:57 AM

lol so CONSPIRACY NUTS supporting Bitcoins. LOL How i like when this big cock enter some people mouth on this board, fucking comedy

Rand 03-22-2013 09:55 AM

A strange phenomenon indeed.


http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-ce...kind-20130320/

dyna mo 03-22-2013 10:08 AM

there are many threads and 100s of posts here on this.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19538500)

this guy is hilarious, he actually said that there is not enough gold to back up a currency. commodity backed currency days are long long gone

lolololololol

notinmybackyard 03-22-2013 10:19 AM

So let me understand this correctly.

Webkiddies want to stop using fiat dollars because they represent nothing but paper.
And replace them with a virtual currency that represent even less than paper because it is better?

Because somehow a huge computer based gouvernement agency like the NSA can not possibly control them?

I did some strong drugs in the 1960s but I do not even want to imagine what webkiddies are smoking.

mayabong 03-22-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19540868)
So let me understand this correctly.

Webkiddies want to stop using fiat dollars because they represent nothing but paper.
And replace them with a virtual currency that represent even less than paper because it is better?

Because somehow a huge computer based gouvernement agency like the NSA can not possibly control them?

I did some strong drugs in the 1960s but I do not even want to imagine what webkiddies are smoking.

Here is some writings from the creator.

Yes, [we will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography,] but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years. Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own.

The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust. Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve. We have to trust them with our privacy, trust them not to let identity thieves drain our accounts. Their massive overhead costs make micropayments impossible.
A generation ago, multi-user time-sharing computer systems had a similar problem. Before strong encryption, users had to rely on password protection to secure their files, placing trust in the system administrator to keep their information private. Privacy could always be overridden by the admin based on his judgment call weighing the principle of privacy against other concerns, or at the behest of his superiors. Then strong encryption became available to the masses, and trust was no longer required. Data could be secured in a way that was physically impossible for others to access, no matter for what reason, no matter how good the excuse, no matter what.
It's time we had the same thing for money. With e-currency based on cryptographic proof, without the need to trust a third party middleman, money can be secure and transactions effortless.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19540868)
So let me understand this correctly.

Webkiddies want to stop using fiat dollars because they represent nothing but paper.
And replace them with a virtual currency that represent even less than paper because it is better?

Because somehow a huge computer based gouvernement agency like the NSA can not possibly control them?

I did some strong drugs in the 1960s but I do not even want to imagine what webkiddies are smoking.

And to comply with existing IRS tax codes generate a paper record of each bitcoin's value when received, each bitcoins value when used/cashed out. Accrue a profit/loss balance based on a first in first out system and pay taxes on any gains.

Sounds like the simple way to pay for things to me, lol.

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dyna mo 03-22-2013 10:30 AM

yes, webkiddies are running the show now.

it's obvious they are in charge of the banks getting on-board with bitcoin and the vc money as well.

it's 2013.

mayabong 03-22-2013 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19540893)
yes, webkiddies are running the show now.

it's obvious they are in charge of the banks getting on-board with bitcoin and the vc money as well.

it's 2013.

Here is a "webkiddie" that was one of the first to help Satoshi.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0

Emil 03-22-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19538502)
i was hoping it was a suicide video
http://www.investitwisely.com/wordpr...coin-heist.jpg

it seems as if bitcoins sites dissappeared like epassoporte you would be fucked and thats what happens next

Since you can store the Bitcoins on your own computer....................

L-Pink 03-22-2013 10:48 AM

Hey mayabong, are you a US citizen? You do realize each and every bitcoin transaction needs the same documentation as if you were a day trader using apple stock? Or have you said fuck the IRS?

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mayabong 03-22-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19540931)
Hey mayabong, are you a US citizen? You do realize each and every bitcoin transaction needs the same documentation as if you were a day trader using apple stock? Or have you said fuck the IRS?

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I haven't seen a real answer from the IRS regarding Bitcoin. Do you have an official document? I don't cash out when I'm in Bitcions and probably never will.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540941)
I haven't seen a real answer from the IRS regarding Bitcoin. Do you have an official document? I don't cash out when I'm in Bitcions and probably never will.

There is no official document for apple or IBM stock either. It's called investment income.

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mayabong 03-22-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19540948)
There is no official document for apple or IBM stock either. It's called investment income.

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If I buy a beanie baby and sell it for thousands more, is that considered investment income? Not trying to be smart just trying to figure it out.

Like I said, I have never cashed out my Bitcoins so those rules wouldn't apply.

Also if you are a merchant and use Bitpay you are not subject to market fluctuations. You aren't even investing in bitconi you are just seeing cash.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540941)
I haven't seen a real answer from the IRS regarding Bitcoin. Do you have an official document? I don't cash out when I'm in Bitcions and probably never will.

You don't owe taxes just when you cash out. You also need to reconcile profit/loss on bitcoin value for anything you purchase with bitcoins as well.

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Sly 03-22-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540950)
If I buy a beanie baby and sell it for thousands more, is that considered investment income? Not trying to be smart just trying to figure it out.

Technically you are supposed to pay taxes on that, yes.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540950)
If I buy a beanie baby and sell it for thousands more, is that considered investment income? Not trying to be smart just trying to figure it out.

Like I said, I have never cashed out my Bitcoins so those rules wouldn't apply.

Also if you are a merchant and use Bitpay you are not subject to market fluctuations. You aren't even investing in bitconi you are just seeing cash.

Any net gain from any sale is taxable income.

When/if you cash out you will pay ordinary income or capital gains on profit from each sale.

Merchants that cash out each day don't pay taxes. Those that hold bitcoins for any extended period become investors and are subject to investment rules on the profit/loss of each bitcoin cashed out.

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PornMD 03-22-2013 11:08 AM

Webkiddies want to buy drugs and kiddie porn. That's what bitcoin amounts to.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540950)
If I buy a beanie baby and sell it for thousands more, is that considered investment income?

Not being an asshole but how can you be here pushing investments when you have zero idea of the tax and paperwork compliance factors?

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mayabong 03-22-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19540958)
Not being an asshole but how can you be here pushing investments when you have zero idea of the tax and paperwork compliance factors?

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I'm not pushing bitcoin as an investment and have never told anyone to buy ever. Bitcoin is used by alot of speculators but that is not its only use.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540964)
I'm not pushing bitcoin as an investment and have never told anyone to buy ever. Bitcoin is used by alot of speculators but that is not its only use.

As a US citizen I use dollars. Dollars go up and down value wise in their purchasing power but still remain just a dollar to me, a US citizen.

Now look at a stock, the value goes up and down by the second. I have a profit or loss when I decide to use that stock to acquire something else. I pay tax or accrue a loss when that stock is used.

I also have to spend that stock on a first in first out accounting value method. Meaning the first stock share I buy has to be the first one cashed out.

Anyone using bitcoins like it was a dollar is not meeting IRS paperwork requirements and is truly fucked if audited.

Now with the above paperwork requirements in mind who the hell wants to use bitcoins as everyday money?

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Emil 03-22-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 19540957)
Webkiddies want to buy drugs and kiddie porn. That's what bitcoin amounts to.

And your whore-girlfriend.

mayabong 03-22-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19540967)
As a US citizen I use dollars. Dollars go up and down value wise in their purchasing power but still remain just a dollar to me, a US citizen.

Now look at a stock, the value goes up and down by the second. I have a profit or loss when I decide to use that stock to acquire something else. I pay tax or accrue a loss when that stock is used.

I also have to spend that stock on a first in first out accounting value method. Meaning the first stock share I buy has to be the first one cashed out.

Anyone using bitcoins like it was a dollar is not meeting IRS paperwork requirements and is truly fucked if audited.

Now with the above paperwork requirements in mind who the hell wants to use bitcoins as everyday money?

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Actually the buying power of your dollar has been on a steady decline for about 100 years.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540998)
Actually the buying power of your dollar has been on a steady decline for about 100 years.

What does that have to do with how the IRS views investment vehicle accounting?

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mayabong 03-22-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19541001)
What does that have to do with how the IRS views investment vehicle accounting?

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It doesn't I was just making a point. Lots of people will use bitcoin no matter what. Gambling, Drugs at the very least. I doubt they care about the IRS.

I promote on here cause merchants don't ever need to touch Bitcoins. So your arguement from a merchant perspective really doesn't work.

L-Pink 03-22-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19541015)
It doesn't I was just making a point. Lots of people will use bitcoin no matter what. Gambling, Drugs at the very least. I doubt they care about the IRS.

I promote on here cause merchants don't ever need to touch Bitcoins. So your arguement from a merchant perspective really doesn't work.

From a merchants view I would sell my product anyway I could provided I could cash out the same day. I have never said differently. From an investment or daily use bitcoins seem to only make sense if you are the type of person that decides to beat the system. And by beat the system I mean avoid taxes. (admit it you NEVER considered paying taxes on yours did you?) Good luck.

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96ukssob 03-22-2013 03:28 PM

i paused the video in a great spot!

http://content.screencast.com/users/...03-22_1831.png

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

notinmybackyard 03-22-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540877)
Here is some writings from the creator.

Yes, [we will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography,] but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years. Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own.

The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust. Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve. We have to trust them with our privacy, trust them not to let identity thieves drain our accounts. Their massive overhead costs make micropayments impossible.
A generation ago, multi-user time-sharing computer systems had a similar problem. Before strong encryption, users had to rely on password protection to secure their files, placing trust in the system administrator to keep their information private. Privacy could always be overridden by the admin based on his judgment call weighing the principle of privacy against other concerns, or at the behest of his superiors. Then strong encryption became available to the masses, and trust was no longer required. Data could be secured in a way that was physically impossible for others to access, no matter for what reason, no matter how good the excuse, no matter what.
It's time we had the same thing for money. With e-currency based on cryptographic proof, without the need to trust a third party middleman, money can be secure and transactions effortless.

Fiat dollars are backed by the people. Therefore the problem with the currency and the world in general is we have a generation that have zero skills. All this generation can do is push buttons and pull all kinds of self-justifications out of their asses for their pathetic attempts at pseudo intellectualism on the Internet.

Shit I look at the Occupy mouvement and Anonymous and from the perspective of an old hippie. They are just as pathetic at civil protest as they are at everything else. It is embarrassing when they are compared to my generation.

Because Abbie Hoffman, Emmit Grogan, Timothy Leary, etc. Might have dropped out and doped up but they brought nations to their knees. The occupy mouvement could not even bring hot coffee to the homeless and anonymous only wants to download free movies and games. So again why is the money bad?? Because webkiddies are unskilled narcissistic morons.

In short bitcoins are a scam.

What this generation of webkiddies needs to do is remember W... W... W... G... D...


**** What Would Wavey Gravey Do ? ***
(i steal this idea from popular baptist expression)

Just as he said who everyone should vote for... Wavey Gravey would say that Nobody should have Bitcoins.
Here he is : https://youtube.com/watch?v=foWx42_1Loc


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Due 03-22-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19540967)
As a US citizen I use dollars. Dollars go up and down value wise in their purchasing power but still remain just a dollar to me, a US citizen.

Now look at a stock, the value goes up and down by the second. I have a profit or loss when I decide to use that stock to acquire something else. I pay tax or accrue a loss when that stock is used.

I also have to spend that stock on a first in first out accounting value method. Meaning the first stock share I buy has to be the first one cashed out.

Anyone using bitcoins like it was a dollar is not meeting IRS paperwork requirements and is truly fucked if audited.

Now with the above paperwork requirements in mind who the hell wants to use bitcoins as everyday money?

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You may be able to book it as deferred income based on the time you spend/ exchange the money like if its a foreign investment
Other currencies used to be backed by gold ( example the dollar ) and you know it can always be traded.. What secures a bit coin ?

MainstreamGuy 03-22-2013 10:43 PM

Lots of Bitcoin threads over here, what's going on?

doorag 03-23-2013 05:28 AM

i'm predicting it will crash within the next 30 days. Better cash out as soon as you can.

notinmybackyard 03-23-2013 05:57 AM

I have learned a new language. I can now speak webkiddie

Here is a youtube clip saying that Bitcoins are bad.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-81DBWOkE6c

Here is a youtube clips saying bitcoins are a scam
https://youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...s&feature=fvwp


Listen to youtube.
Youtube is your master.
Youtube tells the truth.
Youtube is the ministry of Truth.

Ingnorance is strength so watch Youtube and get much smarter.

If you get much smarter than the shape changing gouvernement ilumnati aliens that launched a missle from the Rothschild central bank located deep within the hollow moon that circles the earth in to the New York towers on septembre 11 2001 wil become weaker.

So watch youtube and learn.

DWB 03-23-2013 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MainstreamGuy (Post 19541720)
what's going on?

A bubble of make believe digital geek money that people buy drugs and child porn with.

Probably too late to get in now but those who did a while ago and get out before it pops, probably made some cashola if they went big.

dyna mo 03-23-2013 06:38 AM

i like the quote in your sig, dwb. apropos eh

Chris 03-23-2013 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorag (Post 19541916)
i'm predicting it will crash within the next 30 days. Better cash out as soon as you can.

next 30 days? I say 14 days lol
its down today already

mayabong 03-23-2013 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19542012)
next 30 days? I say 14 days lol
its down today already

Big BuBBle pop still up 400% on the year.

- Jesus Christ - 03-23-2013 07:40 AM

Anyone who looks at a logarithmic chart since its creation and says it is a "bubble" is a moron.

(BTW Alex Jones and Max Keiser are fucking annoying.)

javbucks 03-24-2013 06:27 AM

Why are so many people so upset

TheSquealer 03-24-2013 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540941)
I haven't seen a real answer from the IRS regarding Bitcoin. Do you have an official document? I don't cash out when I'm in Bitcions and probably never will.

The "real answer" is that your income gets taxed no matter where it's earned or how it's earned.

Hahaha crazy people and kids never fail to entertain.

DWB 03-24-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19540941)
I haven't seen a real answer from the IRS regarding Bitcoin. Do you have an official document?

:helpme

See below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19543081)
The "real answer" is that your income gets taxed no matter where it's earned or how it's earned.

:2 cents:

Internet Guy 03-24-2013 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javbucks (Post 19543058)
Why are so many people so upset

Because maybe deep down they suspect they missed the boat?

GFY has been very kind to me knowledge wise, lots of tips helping me make money..

It's going to $1000+ within the next few years, 90%+ chance. There isn't a thing any individual can do about it at this point.

Perhaps some government agency will find ways to slow it's progress, or even disable it, but in this case all that would lead to is a stronger crypto-currency being invented. It's like trying to disable any P2P technology: good luck.

GFY: It's not too late to make a lot of money just by being "in the right place at the right time". This is easier than internet porn in the year 2000. Buy some coins, secure them, sit on them, retire yearly.

AdultPornMasta 03-24-2013 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 19543631)
Because maybe deep down they suspect they missed the boat?

GFY has been very kind to me knowledge wise, lots of tips helping me make money..

It's going to $1000+ within the next few years, 90%+ chance. There isn't a thing any individual can do about it at this point.

Perhaps some government agency will find ways to slow it's progress, or even disable it, but in this case all that would lead to is a stronger crypto-currency being invented. It's like trying to disable any P2P technology: good luck.

GFY: It's not too late to make a lot of money just by being "in the right place at the right time". This is easier than internet porn in the year 2000. Buy some coins, secure them, sit on them, retire yearly.


Better yet, get to mining!

:2 cents:


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