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ThunderBalls 03-16-2013 07:20 AM

Federal Government Reports Marijuana Effective in Combatting Certain Cancers
 
In a recent report, the National Cancer Institute (NCI), part of the Federal government's National Institutes of Health (NIH), stated that marijuana "inhibited the survival of both estrogen receptor?positive and estrogen receptor?negative breast cancer cell lines." The same report showed marijuana slows or stops the growth of certain lung cancer cells and suggested that marijuana may provide "risk reduction and treatment of colorectal cancer."

Referring to the NCI report, Patient Rights attorney Matthew Pappas said, "The Federal government's continuing attack on people prescribed medical cannabis by their doctors is hypocritical considering the benefits reported by its own National Cancer Institute." Pappas represents patients in defending their right to reasonably obtain medical marijuana. The patients contend the Federal government and various municipalities are trying to prevent them from obtaining cannabis for medical purposes in direct contravention of state laws. "Cities that ban dispensaries are denying patients the ability to obtain a medicine the Federal government's National Institutes of Health says fights cancer and they're doing it with the Obama Administration's help." Recently, the City of Los Angeles repealed its ban of medical marijuana collectives after Bill Rosendahl, a member of its city council diagnosed with cancer and prescribed medical marijuana said to fellow council members about the ban, "You want to kill me? You want to throw me under the bus?"

The NCI report also examined whether patients who smoke marijuana rather than ingesting it orally are exposed to a higher risk of lung and certain digestive system cancers. According to the government, 19 studies "failed to demonstrate statistically significant associations between marijuana inhalation and lung cancer." The report also identified a separate study of 611 lung cancer patients that showed marijuana was "not associated with an increased risk of lung cancer or other upper aerodigestive tract cancers and found no positive associations with any cancer type." In the area of prostate cancer, the NCI report was inconclusive and suggested further research was necessary. In its report, the National Cancer Institute also identified a "study of intratumoral injection of delta-9-THC in patients with recurrent glioblastoma" that showed tumor reduction in the test participants.

Despite the Federal government sanctioned and authorized NCI report, Pappas said Congress and the Obama Administration have continued to thwart marijuana research. In an announced effort to displace state medical marijuana laws, the Office of National Drug Control Policy described "medical" marijuana as a "myth" fueling "troubling misconceptions" in documents found on its website. The Federal government appears to be focused on creating more chemical drugs, many of which are the subject of various attorney television commercials seeking out those adversely impacted by those drugs. Pappas said both the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Office of National Drug Control Policy continue to assert marijuana lacks any medicinal value despite the research showing cannabis reduces certain cancer risks and inhibits the growth of tumor cells. He also commented that the Federal government's anti-marijuana position contributes to and encourages prejudice and public misconception about the legitimate use of medical cannabis as treatment for seriously ill patients.

In addition to anti-cancer properties, separate research reported marijuana appears to have "profound nerve-protective and brain-enhancing properties that could potentially treat many neurodegenerative disorders." In its report, the National Cancer Institute stated cannabis effectively treats insomnia and referenced a placebo-controlled study in cancer patients showing increased quality of sleep and relaxation in those treated with tetrahydrocannabinol, an active component in marijuana.

Responding to a White House statement that only a small percentage of patients prescribed medical cannabis under state laws use it to treat cancer, Pappas said "marijuana isn't just for cancer or AIDS patients ? it can also treat, for example, sleeplessness." Although generally not a life threatening condition, Pappas referred to insomnia as a health issue regularly treated with prescription drugs zolpidem (brand name Ambien) and eszopiclone (brand name Lunesta). According to their manufacturers' websites, zolpidem and eszopiclone have been shown to cause severe side effects including aggressiveness, hallucinations, confusion, or suicidal thoughts. Pappas noted that, unlike those drugs, studies on insomnia similar to those reported by the National Cancer Institute show medical marijuana effectively treats insomnia at a far lower cost and with fewer side effects. Marijuana has also been prescribed for glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, chronic pain, and a variety of other physical and mental conditions.

Addressing the White House website statement that medical marijuana should remain criminally illegal under federal law, Pappas said that "with every drug, the doctor must consider the benefits versus any possible side effects. In its 3000-plus year history of medicinal use, there has never been a known, confirmed death caused by overdose of marijuana. To suggest that prescription drugs known to have severe negative side effects are alright and that marijuana can only be used for cancer or AIDS is nonsensical. It demonstrates how the Federal government's decision to usurp state sovereignty is harming people because burdening citizens with federal criminal records based on medical marijuana provided for under state law is simply wrong. To continue outlawing the use of a drug shown to have life-saving, anti-cancer benefits that has been used safely as a medication for thousands of years is irresponsible."

Jan., 2013 National Cancer Institute PDQ® report on cannabis:

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/p...essional/page2

July, 2009 NIH report on cannabis reducing neck and head squamous cell carcinoma:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19638490

Nov., 2012 NIH report on cannabis breast cancer treatment:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22776349

Report on study showing smoked marijuana does not cause cancer:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052501729.html

Report on neuroprotective benefits of marijuana:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/0...s-in-cannabis/

White House "Fact Sheet" on Marijuana Legalization:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...eet_3-3-11.pdf

Office of National Drug Control Policy documents:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...et_3-28-12.pdf and

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ion_packet.pdf

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51148243/n.../#.UUR_x6M9eA5

bronco67 03-16-2013 07:36 AM

My mother in law just survived cancer, and is always worried about it coming back.

If I showed her this report and suggested she start smoking, she would look at me like I have two heads. This is how stigmatized weed has become by the powers that be. Alcohol kills so many people every year, but there are ZERO recorded deaths from marijuana use.

Makes no fucking sense.

just a punk 03-16-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19530885)
Makes no fucking sense.

Yes it doesn't kill but it can take your mind and turn you into its slave. An old buddy of my son has turned into a marihuana junkie. Son almost doesn't communicate with him anymore. He said that he always though that marihuana is not a big deal, but now he strongly believes it's a very serious drug which must be completely avoided.

SuckOnThis 03-16-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530921)
Yes it doesn't kill but it can take your mind and turn you into its slave. An old buddy of my son has turned into a marihuana junkie. Son almost doesn't communicate with him anymore. He said that he always though that marihuana is not a big deal, but now he strongly believes it's a very serious drug which must be completely avoided.

Not sure if you're trolling or not but this is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.

arock10 03-16-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530921)
Yes it doesn't kill but it can take your mind and turn you into its slave. An old buddy of my son has turned into a marihuana junkie. Son almost doesn't communicate with him anymore. He said that he always though that marihuana is not a big deal, but now he strongly believes it's a very serious drug which must be completely avoided.

Your buddy is just pissed cause his kid keeps eating all the chips

dyna mo 03-16-2013 08:12 AM

this isn't about smoking weed.

the benefits can be derived from oral thc meds

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The NCI report also examined whether patients who smoke marijuana rather than ingesting it orally are exposed to a higher risk of lung and certain digestive system cancers. According to the government, 19 studies "failed to demonstrate statistically significant associations between marijuana inhalation and lung cancer." The report also identified a separate study of 611 lung cancer patients that showed marijuana was "not associated with an increased risk of lung cancer or other upper aerodigestive tract cancers and found no positive associations with any cancer type." In the area of prostate cancer, the NCI report was inconclusive and suggested further research was necessary. In its report, the National Cancer Institute also identified a "study of intratumoral injection of delta-9-THC in patients with recurrent glioblastoma" that showed tumor reduction in the test participants.
also, we have a lot to learn about weed. especially now that we are creating new finished product, like weed wax.

i learned about an ailment attributed to weed recently, cyclic vomiting/cannabis gastroparesis.

http://allbleedingstops.blogspot.com...-syndrome.html

just a punk 03-16-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19530924)
Not sure if you're trolling or not but this is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.

No I'm not trolling. This is a real story from the first hands. I also know a lot of similar stories from other people. Recently there was a long thread on one of Russian webmaster boards where one guy (a very famous in the Internet) has told his own 10-year marihuana smoker's story. In short, he ended up in the special clinic (he went there by his own will). Now he believes the one can't be "former junky".

So this is not trolling and not a joke either.

bronco67 03-16-2013 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530945)
No I'm not trolling. This is a real story from the first hands. I also know a lot of similar stories from other people. Recently there was a long thread on one of Russian webmaster boards where one guy (a very famous in the Internet) has told his own 10-year marihuana smoker's story. In short, he ended up in the special clinic (he went there by his own will). Now he believes the one can't be "former junky".

So this is not trolling and not a joke either.

I believe what you're saying. I just recently curtailed my pot use because I was getting a little too into it. I was reaching a point where I could only enjoy movies and music while high -- so I stopped for while.

---and this is why I know it's not addictive. I haven't had the urge to smoke after quitting for a couple of weeks. Maybe I'll start again in a few months.

Maybe some people don't have the ability to go cold turkey.

Maybe they shouldn't smoke or drink in the first place.

just a punk 03-16-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19530954)
I believe what you're saying. I just recently curtailed my pot use because I was getting a little too into it. I was reaching a point where I could only enjoy movies and music while high -- so I stopped for while.

Those I mentioned above has told that the life without marihuana just stopped "to be cool" for them. A buddy of my son just believe that he is not "interested" in that life. He can't do anything when he is not high.

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19530954)
I haven't had the urge to smoke after quitting for a couple of weeks. Maybe I'll start again in a few months.

As the other guy told on a Russian webmaster board, if you haven't smoked for two weeks, you are still high, because marihuana is still in your blood. So if you get tested today, the results will be positive.

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19530954)
Maybe some people don't have the ability to go cold turkey.

I'm used to believe there is no such people at all. Some need more time to become a junky, some - less :2 cents:

dyna mo 03-16-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530971)


As the other guy told on a Russian webmaster board, if you haven't smoked for two weeks, you are still high, because marihuana is still in your blood. So if you get tested today, the results will be positive.


you are not still high, the effects have dissipated while the chemicals still linger

just a punk 03-16-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19530979)
you are not still high, the effects have dissipated while the chemicals still linger

Yes and not. You don't feel like you are high, but your brain is still under effect.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530987)
Yes and not. You don't feel like you are high, but your brain is still under effect.

i have never found any data supporting this. do you have some?

SuckOnThis 03-16-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530971)

As the other guy told on a Russian webmaster board, if you haven't smoked for two weeks, you are still high, because marihuana is still in your blood. So if you get tested today, the results will be positive.

It remains in your bloodstream for up to 4-5 hours, not two weeks. It remains in your fatty tissues for up to 30 days and is detectable for that amount of time in a urine test but a blood test will show nothing. Regardless, you are not high for two weeks.


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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530971)
I'm used to believe there is no such people at all. Some need more time to become a junky, some - less :2 cents:

Marijuana is not a narcotic therefore it is impossible for people to become a junky.

Why do you keep posting uninformed bullshit?

just a punk 03-16-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19530990)
i have never found any data supporting this. do you have some?

I heard it from the that guy who used to smoke for 10 years and ended up in the clinic. He knows a lot about marijuana and I'm used to trust him on it. Also you can Google for "marijuana withdrawal period". There seem to be a lot of information about it. E.g.: http://www.steadyhealth.com/marijuan...th_t96212.html

just a punk 03-16-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19530997)
Why do you keep posting uninformed bullshit?

Put me into your ignore list and relax already.

SuckOnThis 03-16-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531009)
I heard it from the that guy who used to smoke for 10 years and ended up in the clinic.

Well that's all the proof I need. :1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531009)
Put me into your ignore list and relax already.

I don't put people on ignore, I call them out when they don't know what they're talking about.

ThunderBalls 03-16-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19531014)
Well that's all the proof I need. :1orglaugh




I don't put people on ignore, I call them out when they don't know what they're talking about.


Dude is just fucking with you, no one is really that retarded.

BlackCrayon 03-16-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530921)
Yes it doesn't kill but it can take your mind and turn you into its slave. An old buddy of my son has turned into a marihuana junkie. Son almost doesn't communicate with him anymore. He said that he always though that marihuana is not a big deal, but now he strongly believes it's a very serious drug which must be completely avoided.

i don't believe marijuana has anything to do with it. if it wasn't marijuana, it would be something else. some people waste their lives gaming. some people waste their lives smoking weed. sensible people who are able to do things in moderation are able to enjoy gaming or weed without losing themselves in it. the kid could also have some kind of mental problem and is using the weed in a subconscious attempt to self medicate.

just a punk 03-16-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19531014)
I don't put people on ignore, I call them out when they don't know what they're talking about.

I'm not interested in a discussion with you. I don't know who you are, so your words have no sense to me. Everything I posted above I know from the people I know and trust to.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531006)
I heard it from the that guy who used to smoke for 10 years and ended up in the clinic. He knows a lot about marijuana and I'm used to trust him on it. Also you can Google for "marijuana withdrawal period". There seem to be a lot of information about it. E.g.: http://www.steadyhealth.com/marijuan...th_t96212.html

that's not really valid data. stoners can yap on being completely full of shit.

also, i've smoked weed for decades longer than your 10 year stoner dude. while i don't discount his own experience, i don't think it's representative.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531006)
I heard it from the that guy who used to smoke for 10 years and ended up in the clinic. He knows a lot about marijuana and I'm used to trust him on it. Also you can Google for "marijuana withdrawal period". There seem to be a lot of information about it. E.g.: http://www.steadyhealth.com/marijuan...th_t96212.html

this is a sample post from that link, this guy loads up in zoloft and smokes weed, not a good source of reliable data.

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hey guys, im 16 and have been smoking for 2 years and it has basically killed my old self and took over my life and my body. it really sucks and im becoming a dysfunctional human being. about a year ago i would get panic attacks when smoking large amounts then, they stopped and i was good until yesterday. 4days ago i started taking zoloft for depression and anziety(i hate you weed). so just to be sure i looked up online if it would be ok to smoke while on it. there was no solid answer but, i read about some bad experiances so i was a little skeptical but, of course i smoked and had a severe panic attack. its time for me to quit before im too burntout to leave my room. how will i be able to deal with the cravings for weed that iknow i will encounter in the 1st few weeks?. and also thankyou people for posting these threads.. it really is comforting to know that other people have gone through and made it through these situations
-dave

ThunderBalls 03-16-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531024)
I'm not interested in a discussion with you. I don't know who you are, so your words have no sense to me. Everything I posted above I know from the people I know and trust to.


Maybe you really are that retarded?

just a punk 03-16-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19531034)
this is a sample post from that link, this guy loads up in zoloft and smokes weed, not a good source of reliable data.

I believe there is a ton of other sources on "marijuana withdrawal period".

CyberHustler 03-16-2013 09:58 AM

Weed definitely has a withdrawal period for extreme users... a period of sweaty palms, finding it hard to sleep and getting irritable. For this threads sake though, the benefits outweigh that. Plenty of other stuff have way worse withdrawal symptoms.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531054)
I believe there is a ton of other sources on "marijuana withdrawal period".

oh yah, i'm with ya. i've dug into it prior, i just can't find any data that supports the thinking that cannaboids affect you 30+ days later and any real data on the length of detoxing off weed.

i don't necc. doubt it, i know from being in the hospital that iv drugs like morphine, for instance, linger for months and can drag me down, even though the pain relieving aspects have long since gone.

just a punk 03-16-2013 11:46 AM

The simple way to see it is a blood test. For example the alcohol test will be negative after two weeks, but test on marijuana will be positive. Why? Simple because it remains in blood for much longer time than alcohol.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531292)
The simple way to see it is a blood test. For example the alcohol test will be negative after two weeks, but test on marijuana will be positive. Why? Simple because it remains in blood for much longer time than alcohol.

i've personal experience with that. nevertheless, are you drunk 3 days after drinking? no, but your body is still detoxing from the alcohol.

just a punk 03-16-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19531295)
i've personal experience with that. nevertheless, are you drunk 3 days after drinking? no, but your body is still detoxing from the alcohol.

AFAIK the alcohol tests are negative after 3 days. Perhaps I'm wrong.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531300)
AFAIK the alcohol tests are negative after 3 days. Perhaps I'm wrong.

yes, after 3 days, alcohol detox is usually complete, but alcohol is in the blood for ~24hours, then, as i understand it, the detox and symptoms continue 2 more days.

just a punk 03-16-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19531310)
yes, after 3 days, alcohol detox is usually complete, but alcohol is in the blood for ~24hours, then, as i understand it, the detox and symptoms continue 2 more days.

Why? If there is no alcohol, there is no detox.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531315)
Why? If there is no alcohol, there is no detox.

alcohol detox is serious. just as serious as a heroin detox.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001769/

it is very different from coming off weed.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 12:06 PM

actually, that's not a good link, give the wiki a whirl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol...rawal_syndrome

updated

ThunderBalls 03-16-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531292)
The simple way to see it is a blood test. For example the alcohol test will be negative after two weeks, but test on marijuana will be positive. Why? Simple because it remains in blood for much longer time than alcohol.


Jesus you are fucking retarded.

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THC is detectable in the blood for a short time, usually a few hours, because it is rapidly metabolized into molecules known as metabolites.
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Because marijuana stays in the bloodstream for a short time, blood tests for marijuana are usually not used, except in the case of automobile accidents and some roadside sobriety check points.
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana_test.htm

just a punk 03-16-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19531318)
alcohol detox is serious. just as serious as a heroin detox.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001769/

it is very different from coming off weed.

I never said it's not serous. Course it is. I just said its detox period is much shorter comparing with marijuana.

ThunderBalls 03-16-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531331)
I never said it's not serous. Course it is. I just said its detox period is much shorter comparing with marijuana.


Maybe your online translator is confusing cannabis with plutonium?

dyna mo 03-16-2013 12:21 PM

i am now completely lost on what the discussion was about.

brb, maybe a bowl will help clarify things.

:)

just a punk 03-16-2013 12:28 PM

It sure will :) BTW, I don't think we have a discussion. We both were trying to find out the length of marijuana detox period. We haven't found it out, but we have agreed that it has a detox period, which means it's a drug with a toxic effect to the brain.

dyna mo 03-16-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19531350)
it's a drug with a toxic effect to the brain.

well, that is the point eh.

:)

Penny24Seven 03-16-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19530987)
Yes and not. You don't feel like you are high, but your brain is still under effect.

so you found one person that thinks it is bad? That is called the effects (side effects) of getting high. It is different in everyone just as any meds you take. You have to look at the overall good and bad and go from there.
Some people do not ride bikes because the mailmans best friend knew a guy that saw a tv show where a guy died by getting hit by a car so he will never ride a bike again lol

Badmaash 03-16-2013 12:51 PM

High!

Yes because of the facts that you have highlighted it resulted in me setting up this medical marijuana site

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