Are these people for REAL!?!? Content producers/providers, please look inside.
 

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Imageauction.com

What the hell!?!??! Anyone can put up content for sale apparently, even if it's not theirs. Check this auction:
http://www.imageauction.com/index.cf...id=0 &item=96

No documentation? No Custodial information? Is this even theirs to sell? The guy who owns this site was bragging on another board that they have TOTALLY UNRESTRICED licenses... yeah, probably because half the stuff up is either illegal or not theirs to sell? I highly suggest all content producers/providers check to make sure this guy isn't peddling THEIR wares.

Oh, and for all of your information, this same fellow informed me that content providers "business models are failing". What do you guys think. Are we all on welfare yet?


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bump.....

Well, they sure wont be around for long!!
How do people get away with stuff like that!!??

FT**

you have to just about sell them a kidney to get full access to their site anyway.

Am I being stupid?

Where are the samples?

I sale short lawsuits.

"This auction contains adult erotic images. Samples are only availible to Verified account holders. To register your account please go here"

note: their poor spelling, not mine...

Samples are not loading and I won't register to access their content site.

I guess they figure they'll lure more people in so they can spam them or something if they have to register before even seeing a sample thumbnail...

i can't reach ImageAuction.com. anybody else?

I got in. I just bought Charly's entire image collection for $50, with resale rights!

you have to register to get one access..then register with even more info to be able to bid..even more to be at another level to see more stuff. Too much information from me just to see if there is anything I am acutally interested in.

Wow, I would have figured the reserve on Charly's stuff would have been set a lot higher! To at least $75! :D

I got a mail from them long ago...where they asked to help selling my content - 50 % commision to them.
I don't think they get a lot of providers to fall for that, maybe some amateur photographers shooting their girlfriend.
I will look through my mail to see if I kept it...If so, I will post it here for info.

Found the mail

"From: Support
Date: 9. december 2002 23:19:22
To: [email protected]
Subject: ImageAuction.com

Hi,

I'm writing to you because you license content to adult webmasters on
the internet. I wanted to introduce you to our service at
ImageAuction.com. We offer original content producers the ability to sell
rather than license their content and reap the benefits of their work now
rather than waiting years for license income. We have created a seller
information page to answer many of the questions you might have:

http://www.imageauction.com/index.cf...on=seller_info

but don't hesitate to call or email if you have any additional questions.
([email protected] 813-878-2187)

We are presently offering a $100 verification credit to sellers who sign up
before Internext and
discounts on our already very low and competitive commission rates for any
sets you add to ImageAuction before Internext Expo 2003.

If you broker content, ImageAuction can also benefit you by allowing you to
buy/sell unrestricted content for license, resale or use in leased
galleries.


Thank you for your time,

Jason
EOE Inc
[email protected]

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A lot of people don't seem to understand when they are buying nonexclusive content, that all they own is a license to use under the terms of the license, which, short of selling the entire business including transferring the content licensed to it, is normally not theirs to resell.

i knew i had heard of this before. I checked my email box, a few months ago they sent me this e-mail. Sounds like rubbish to me.
People just want to buy decent content at decent prices, this auction thing was tried years ago with content.

And 50% is too much for any broker to take - unless they can prove HUGE sales, sales you couldn't come close to doing on your own. They can't do that, i've seen the numbers from the photographer's end.







Hi,

I'm writing to you because you license content to adult webmasters on
the internet. I wanted to introduce you to our service at
ImageAuction.com. We offer original content producers the ability to sell
rather than license their content and reap the benefits of their work now
rather than waiting years for license income. We have created a seller
information page to answer many of the questions you might have:

http://www.imageauction.com/index.cf...on=seller_info

but don't hesitate to call or email if you have any additional questions.
([email protected] 813-878-2187)

We are presently offering a $100 verification credit to sellers who sign up
before Internext and
discounts on our already very low and competitive commission rates for any
sets you add to ImageAuction before Internext Expo 2003.

If you broker content, ImageAuction can also benefit you by allowing you to
buy/sell unrestricted content for license, resale or use in leased
galleries.


Thank you for your time,

Jason
EOE Inc
[email protected]

One of their auctions lists the custodian of records as

And the description of the title as

Do you really think they have rights to resell these images? Let alone the fact that selling something lacking a custodian is illegal? Shesh.

You know what happends, when you are pissing into the wind...They won't be here for long...:winkwink:

This guy said this on another board:

And this is right from his FAQ
I'm sorry if I was under the impression that it was illegal to display any sort of adult images without at least a listing for a custodian of records, or am I on crack here? Who do these people think they are fooling? I feel sorry for the people that actually fall for this crap and then end up with useless content in the end.. He's mostly pitching to newbies I think though.

There needs to be some kind of a requirement for people to at least learn what title18 means before they get into ventures like this, I swear.

Anyways, figured it was worth bringing to people's attention.

I saw a set of pics I wanted that had a license. 47 pics (if I remember right). Of the 47, about 10 were what I wanted and could be used. So, I bid $3. The low bidder was $1.

The other day I saw the reserve for 47 pics -- $135.00

Either this photographer has his head up his hiney or he truly thinks his materials are gold

If it's legal and it's exclusive, that's a fair reserve price, but.. From what I read about how their system works, it isn't exclusive.. I may be reading it wrong though..

The folks at ImageAuction just informed us on another board because their agreement idemnifies them of damages if the content is illegal, it really doesn't matter if it's legal or not. (Paraphrasing).

Very interesting what some people believe in this world.

Jesus,

What the F$#@!
I dont even know what to say about this one....
I hope no one falls for this crap.......

Don't worry, that's exactly what I felt like when I saw this guy spouting crap about how our business model (content providers) suck and bitching about licenses that weren't unrestricted. Oh, and basically saying that 2257 laws didn't apply to him. Uh huh. Of course, mention was made of this thread and he quickly bailed. I WISH he would come over here and spout the same bs he was spouting elsewhere. That would be funny as hell. Ahhwell.

Any webmaster who buys anything from these folks are nuts. They seem to have no clue about the law. You could be buying stuff that they have no legal right to sell, sure sounds like they don't really pay too much attention to detail.
I still can't reach their site so i can't see what they're selling.

It sounds to me like part of their deal is to sell exclusive content by auction? What normal person is going to buy exclusive content without the original model release and ID's ? it wouldn't hurt to have a release from the photographer himself.

I'm not entirely sure how their system works but I do believe it involves multiple winners of an auction, so how it's exclusive, I don't know.. Plus they've got people buying and selling the same pics over and over on the site.. Too much required just to read how things work over there..

There seem to be some legitimate producers there and I sincerely wish them the best (though I would hope they wouldn't stick to this exclusively). However there are some image sets that are quesitonable at BEST, and don't come with documentation... Let me show you what this guy posted to another board.

I personally have never heard this law taken so liberally, and while this may be his choice or whatever, I don't think it's fair to webmasters who buy content and might not know better. A lot of people are going to get sucked in before they learn.

He may or may not be "legitimate" per se, but I dunno, seems pretty unusual to me, and very easy to abuse. I very highly doubt it's going to replace the tried and true content provider approach too quickly, either. Hard to inspire confidence when you can't even guarentee documents that will keep their customers out of hot water (or at least contribute to it).