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wehateporn 02-28-2013 03:21 AM

Is Hugo Chávez Dead?
 
Ex Embajador de Panamá en la OEA: "Hugo Chávez está muerto"
http://www.cnnchile.com/noticia/2013...ez-esta-muerto

Here's a dodgy Internet translation of the article, actually it looks ok

"Contact CNN Chile, former Ambassador of Panama to the OAS, William Cochez, said that since last December 30 Chávez was declared brain dead in Cuba, whereupon he returned to Venezuela in that State. For this reason, ensure that it was not visited by the various Presidents and questioned the last picture that was posted of Chavez with his daughters.

The information that the former diplomat won ensures that they are 'internal sources of the Venezuelan Government' and is information that circulated weeks ago. ' I challenge the Venezuelan Government to deny me, and showing the Chávez and so you will know what I say is true or false ' called Cochez to Venezuelans to clarify the situation.

CNN Chile asked the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Venezuela, who claimed that this version is not true and contradicts the medical treatment the President of Venezuela is currently performing. They would not make further comment on the matter.

Guillermo Cóchez, meanwhile, said that 4 days ago died Chavez since his daughters asked for disconnection from the ventilator which was connected to survive."

just a punk 02-28-2013 03:24 AM

How knows for sure. We all heard the same rumor.

bl4h 02-28-2013 03:25 AM

too good to be true

Black All Through 02-28-2013 04:35 AM

I hope not! Hugo was a dog that barked, maybe his successor could be a dog that bites.

wehateporn 02-28-2013 04:39 AM

U.S. is giving South American leaders cancer, claims Chavez as Argentine president de Kirchner becomes FIFTH to contract disease

- Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez treated this year
- Claims U.S. 'invented technology to spread cancer'
- Warns other left-wing heads of state could be next

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rs-cancer.html

seeandsee 02-28-2013 05:15 AM

Same as Castro

wehateporn 02-28-2013 05:19 AM

He's a good man, like Gaddafi was, trying to defend his people and give them a good life; exactly what the Global Mafia despise :2 cents:

Markul 02-28-2013 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19504810)
He's a good man, like Gaddafi was, trying to defend his people and give them a good life

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :helpme:helpme

Probono 02-28-2013 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19504767)
U.S. is giving South American leaders cancer, claims Chavez as Argentine president de Kirchner becomes FIFTH to contract disease

- Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez treated this year
- Claims U.S. 'invented technology to spread cancer'
- Warns other left-wing heads of state could be next

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rs-cancer.html

In a backwards way, I think he is right. The food manufactured in the US is probably giving cancer to millions worldwide. Drink more artificial sweeteners, eat more processed crap and you will get fat, get lazy and might get some malignant cells too.

Probono 02-28-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19504810)
He's a good man, like Gaddafi was, trying to defend his people and give them a good life; exactly what the Global Mafia despise :2 cents:

The wealthy fled Venezuela, many are in Panama. The poor do love him for his social programs and enhanced education. The country is an economic disaster. The only prop holding Venezuela up right now are oil exports and even that is not preventing massive inflation and devaluation of the currency.

For an example of a President doing a better job check Correa in Ecuador. He has many of the same ideas.

purecane 02-28-2013 05:41 AM

it is very peculiar that any leader that doesn't kneel to the "democratic" countries gets offed by some revolution or disease.....more than a coincidence.

yuu.design 02-28-2013 05:47 AM

who cares?

Probono 02-28-2013 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuu (Post 19504832)
who cares?

The people of Venezuela care, but if they were not an oil exporter no one else would.

wehateporn 02-28-2013 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19504825)
it is very peculiar that any leader that doesn't kneel to the "democratic" countries gets offed by some revolution or disease.....more than a coincidence.

The CIA have been trying organize a successful coup against Chavez for many years, but Chavez is so popular so it's hard. The International Bankers don't want Chavez giving the profits of the Venezuelan oil to the people, like what Gaddafi did, instead they want to pay a low price for the oil and sell it for a lot more, keeping the Venezuelan people out of the loop. They also want the Venezuelan people as debt slaves, whereas if Chavez keeps giving them the oil money that won't happen.

Venezuela coup linked to Bush team

"Specialists in the 'dirty wars' of the Eighties encouraged the plotters who tried to topple President Chavez"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002.../usa.venezuela

The US has been sending in economic hitmen for many years to try to corrupt Chavez, but they have failed. They tried to pay him off to change his ways, but Chavez cares too much about his people; he's a man of strong moral fiber :2 cents:


SomeCreep 02-28-2013 06:34 AM

No, he aint dead. But he aint quite alive either.

notinmybackyard 02-28-2013 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19504767)
U.S. is giving South American leaders cancer, claims Chavez as Argentine president de Kirchner becomes FIFTH to contract disease

- Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez treated this year
- Claims U.S. 'invented technology to spread cancer'
- Warns other left-wing heads of state could be next

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rs-cancer.html

Considering the shit that has been done in the past. I believe this.
I also believe that the canadien prime minster Stephen Harper did the exact same thing to NDP leader Jack Layton.


Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19504810)
He's a good man, like Gaddafi was, trying to defend his people and give them a good life; exactly what the Global Mafia despise :2 cents:

What was done to Libya is just disgusting and I have no hatred of either Gaddafi or the Venezuelien Président Hugo Chavez.

I have visited Venezuela three occasions and the third occasion I stayed for 5 months. The Venezuelien people are very loving and I think Chavez is trying to help his people. Américians hate him because he will not let them own Venezuela's oil industry.

But no one can explain or will ever win an argument with the average Américain about something like this. Because Patriot monkeys believe that anyone that does not kiss their asses is evil garbage that must be killed.

wehateporn 02-28-2013 06:47 AM

Good post notinmybackyard :thumbsup:thumbsup

zaggy 02-28-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19504836)
The International Bankers don't want Chavez giving the profits of the Venezuelan oil to the people, like what Gaddafi did, instead they want to pay a low price for the oil and sell it for a lot more, keeping the Venezuelan people out of the loop.

Weird, because these supposed shadowy bankers let the Norwegians do it that way.

wehateporn 02-28-2013 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaggy (Post 19504989)
Weird, because these supposed shadowy bankers let the Norwegians do it that way.

There are plans for dealing with the Scandinavian nations, the ones who look after their people and allow scientists to prove that vaccines are causing harm. They speak out against Rothschild Israel too.

It's far more difficult to deal with them though, as they are so well respected and civilized. There's not much corruption in these countries and people have high morals standards.

This was what the 2011 Norway False Flag shooting was about, it was the beginning of the war of the international bankers against the Scandinavian countries. :2 cents: The first plan is to weaken and dislodge the ruling Labour party. They've already managed to kill off a lot of the key future Labour politicians, the fact they're killed off the young ones shows that this is a long term plan; the bankers are willing to be patient. :2 cents:

_Richard_ 02-28-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19504820)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :helpme:helpme

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O4421v_W92...+and+after.jpg

sperbonzo 02-28-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19504825)
it is very peculiar that any leader that doesn't kneel to the "democratic" countries gets offed by some revolution or disease.....more than a coincidence.

??? What are you talking about? First of all, the dictator types on this planet last a HELL of a lot longer in office than any democratic leader ever has..... Decades in most cases.

Secondly, since there are generally no real ways for people to get them out of office by a vote, then the only way that they leave, (after decades in office), is by disease or violence.

Thirdly, I know plenty of people that have fled those kind of countries, and for those of you that think that they are so great and they have all the right ideas, why don't you move to them? Trust me, you will have no problem getting residency if you tell them how much you admire their system and want to be a part of it. I even know a really lefty American guy that did this and moved to Venezuela. (That was over 2 years ago, and now he isn't sure he made the right choice anymore :D )



.:2 cents:


P.s. I certainly don't believe in intervention. If the people want to have a totally controlling government, then let them have it. If they want to revolt, then let them do it on their own. The US needs to stay out of other peoples business unless they start something first.


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scottybuzz 02-28-2013 10:33 AM

Strange how you didn't predict this one.

yet you predicted putin would die.

Will he be getting cancer any time soon?

Or have you made it up like you make everything up?

Bryan G 02-28-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19505040)

Usually after a war roads and buildings will look like that lol.

dyna mo 02-28-2013 10:50 AM


1726cash 02-28-2013 11:03 AM

Dead or not Dead, right now he its not the boss

PR_Glen 02-28-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono (Post 19504821)
In a backwards way, I think he is right. The food manufactured in the US is probably giving cancer to millions worldwide. Drink more artificial sweeteners, eat more processed crap and you will get fat, get lazy and might get some malignant cells too.

2 of the most consumed items in the US yet cancer rates haven't gone up in the last 50 years..

bravo your science is fuckin broken...

Markul 02-28-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19505040)

I don't know what you are trying to say... but as it was said, that's how shit looks after a war. Do you really think that Gaddafi was a good guy?

wehateporn 02-28-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19505239)
I don't know what you are trying to say... but as it was said, that's how shit looks after a war. Do you really think that Gaddafi was a good guy?


Markul 02-28-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19505370)

:1orglaugh well okay then..........

_Richard_ 02-28-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19505239)
I don't know what you are trying to say... but as it was said, that's how shit looks after a war. Do you really think that Gaddafi was a good guy?

you were laughing at the statement Gaddafi was trying to give them a good life

Have we done better?

_Richard_ 02-28-2013 03:09 PM

what's odd is these examples of 'of course the city looks like this after we bomb the shit outta it' as it's some sort of argument for the good we do in the world

StickyGreen 02-28-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19505378)
:1orglaugh well okay then..........

You replied to a 9 minute video 4 minutes after it was posted... :error

EonBlue 02-28-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19504856)
I also believe that the canadien prime minster Stephen Harper did the exact same thing to NDP leader Jack Layton.

Man, I wonder what kind of shit you have to be smoking to believe something as ridiculous as that. It looks like you've caught whatever mental disease wehateporn has. :Oh crap

femdomdestiny 02-28-2013 04:37 PM

My good friend went to live in venezuela.Chavez gave so much to it's people, you just wont be able to see that.

2013 02-28-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono (Post 19504835)
The people of Venezuela care, but if they were not an oil exporter no one else would.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 02-28-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19505718)
Man, I wonder what kind of shit you have to be smoking to believe something as ridiculous as that. It looks like you've caught whatever mental disease wehateporn has. :Oh crap

can't find the original post he was responding to, but Something definitely went down there

:2 cents::2 cents:

i hope he sleeps restless.

bl4h 02-28-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19504810)
He's a good man, like Gaddafi was, trying to defend his people and give them a good life; exactly what the Global Mafia despise :2 cents:

try, want and do are completely different things. wheres the food and great living that were promised. I dont see rainbows and butterflies

notinmybackyard 02-28-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19505718)
Man, I wonder what kind of shit you have to be smoking to believe something as ridiculous as that. It looks like you've caught whatever mental disease wehateporn has. :Oh crap

Give me a moment of your time please,


Take a look around at the shit that goes on inside the porn industry. There have been murders, people putting acid in lube bottles, back stabbing, etc. To this just look at the politics and the back stabbing that goes on this site alone.

The last time I voted for anyone was in 1967 and let me tell you what I have seen in just my life time alone....
  • The Korean War
  • The Cuban revolution
  • The Vietnam War
  • The Cuban Missile Crisis
  • The assassination of Kenedy
  • The Paris riots (I was there)
  • The FLQ crisis
  • The exile of the Shah of Iran
  • The Iran hostage crisis
  • The invasion of Grenada
  • The Iraq Kuwait war
  • The Rwanda genocide
  • Y2K
  • 11 septembre 2001
  • The invasion of Afghanistan (you should have seen Afghanistan before all the wars)
  • The invasion of Iraq
  • The invasion of Libya
  • The Egyptian revolution

And there is a lot more but I can not remember everything

Now you tell me do you really think there exists a single politician that would not resort to poisoning or killing some one ? Do really believe that these politiciens are more noble and trustworthy than the average pornographer?

I certainly have seen a lot in my life and if you follow the news...

There has been a lot of left-wing politicians recently getting cancer. Jack Layton would have been the next prime minster and would have certainly ruined the Reform party over the election fraud. I have seen a lot in my life time and Harper has got to be the worst Neonazi punk I have ever seen.

Jack Layton's cancer and death is just too convenient.

bl4h 02-28-2013 05:41 PM

Theres too many people surrounding the president of the US to pull of something like a poisoning. Theres too much to gain by snitching. not in a dictatorship

apples and oranges

EonBlue 03-01-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 19505827)
I certainly have seen a lot in my life and if you follow the news...

There has been a lot of left-wing politicians recently getting cancer. Jack Layton would have been the next prime minster and would have certainly ruined the Reform party over the election fraud. I have seen a lot in my life time and Harper has got to be the worst Neonazi punk I have ever seen.

Jack Layton's cancer and death is just too convenient.

May Jack Layton rest in peace but it would have been a disaster for Canada if he ever became prime minister. But I will forgive you for thinking otherwise since you come from the most left-wing, politically corrupt and fascist province in Canada.

1 in 4 people will get cancer in their lifetime. Do you think left-wing politicians are somehow immune from that fact? Thousands of good people, of all ages, die from cancer every day. But now a couple of tyrants get cancer and you decide to make it into a political conspiracy? Get real.

Harper a neonazi punk? Again get real. Statements like that show just how out of touch with reality people like you are. You live in a province where language police walk around harassing people over signs and menus in private businesses. Now that's fascism.

Election fraud? Now you are just making stuff up. Then again, you conspiracy nutters always have to make stuff up to keep the conspiracies, and your alternate realities, going.

Markul 03-01-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19505642)
you were laughing at the statement Gaddafi was trying to give them a good life

Have we done better?

I did not say that we did. But to say Gaddafi was trying to give the people a good life is laughable at best.

wehateporn 03-01-2013 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19506669)
I did not say that we did. But to say Gaddafi was trying to give the people a good life is laughable at best.

What did Gaddafi do wrong?

CaptainHowdy 03-01-2013 09:03 AM

The revolución bolivariana will live on ...

Markul 03-01-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19506681)
What did Gaddafi do wrong?

You must be joking.

wehateporn 03-01-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19506716)
You must be joking.

No jokes here, I never saw him do much wrong. Seemed like a decent guy?

Markul 03-01-2013 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19506722)
No jokes here, I never saw him do much wrong. Seemed like a decent guy?

Yea sure. You should look into it, I'm sure you'll learn he wasn't such a decent guy.

_Richard_ 03-01-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19506669)
I did not say that we did. But to say Gaddafi was trying to give the people a good life is laughable at best.

understood. i just don't understand on what basis you're laughing from, considering what we have achieved

EonBlue 03-01-2013 10:05 AM

For Gaddafi, rape was a weapon

_Richard_ 03-01-2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19506811)

was Gaddafi screwing under-age hookers in columbia too?

or is that reserved for US Senators/SS

wehateporn 03-01-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19506804)
Yea sure. You should look into it, I'm sure you'll learn he wasn't such a decent guy.

That's just propaganda. :2 cents: Fact of the matter is, the CIA sent in an proxy army, who they trained and armed (like the one in Syria now). They kick off, leaving Gaddafi with no choice but to fight back. Then the media pretend that Gaddafi is 'attacking his own people' as a pretext for 'Intervention'.

It's what's known as the 'Humanitarian War Scam', the same is being tried on Syria now but fortunately China and Russia aren't making the same mistake again of agreeing to intervention.

Another BBC Propaganda Fail when they gave Indian flags to fake Libyan protestors


Here Gaddafi says that it's Al CIAda who are causing the problems, not the real people. The people there loved him, this was all fake, an excuse to invade. Let's not forget the leader of the rebels had been living next door to CIA headquarters in Virginia for over a decade. :2 cents:



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