CamGirls.com work his shot out ever?
 

I just ran across the site and was wondering if he ever lost that domain?

Fucking title typos. Second one today.

goagle just fucked his site and "cam girls" as search term too

Still coming up as #1 for me?

showing up as number 9 for me on "cam girls" but it's the first cam site. The rest are wikipedia and gawker and shit.

11 for me

He had to do pretty good. I was 2/3 for "Cam Girls" for a couple years or so with a streamate white label right under him right after he launched it. That plus the ancillary terms and the typins had to make him pretty decent money that continued to grow.

Of course, crazy people are crazy, so who knows. But i wouldn't be surprised if that domain is grossing 20k+ a month by now and I would be surprised if he was netting less than 6-7k a month.

so basically in a couple years he will have made his investment back, I think those figures are on the high side though.

I heard he was the new MD at Manwin.

!!!!!

Those figures are on the low side.

I bet it capped at 9k per month. Site ranks for "cam girls". Not many others. It is 9 per month

good for him

how can you estimate that precisely?

A certain number of people join per X days, a certain number drop off each X days. Eventually, a point of equilibrium is found and total active members and revenue plateau. He posted stats a few times in the beginning. Understanding the phrases, how much traffic per rankings, estimating the value of his typins and knowing the value per CC join, its not real hard to guess his revenue with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

I doubt he is making 20k+. I found myself in the top ten awe affiliates once wasn't expecting it since I hadn't noticed those figures in the top webmaster list are sales amount not commission. less then 2k got you top fifty 4k top ten. Of course there are prepaid deals but outside those 20k would make him the top awe affiliate by far. Pretty safe to extrapolate Streamate's stats not being that much different from awe's.

true (the AWE part, streamate I do not know)

You can't calculate anything what money he does, as you don't know how many whales joined. Whale is defined as guy who spend $100k a year or more (in my standards) and a few of these change the stats quite a lot.

i am sure he still make good money from old members

Camgirls is doing just fine and yes all the figures in this thread are very low for what he's doing. Camgirls will be launching an affiliate program in a couple months and offer some creative payout options that you can't get promoting streamate directly.

Streamates top ten is vastly different than AWE's, not even close.

These days the top ten for sure but camgirls is nowhere near the top ten.

A lot closer than you'd think. :winkwink: His SE traffic is just a fraction of what is pushed to the site.

Yes you definitely know the power of that position and the steamroll effect of adding new revshare members daily to an already growing base of spenders.

I have a feeling you have been mentoring or guiding him lazycash? This is not the first time I have seen you being upbeat about a guy everybody else remembers as a train wreck.....

Fair enough. I was judging from the traffic he can expect from his 'cam girls' keyword ranking. If he's pushing other types of traffic rev and ROI can be anything.

I was probably his biggest critic on the boards 3.5 years ago when he acquired the domain and started posting here. That first year he was resistant to all of the help and advice many of you gave him here (including me). After realizing that you couldn't just throw up a site with a top tier niche domain and make millions, he began to listen and learn and has taught himself the ins and outs of the cam biz and traffic game. Admittedly he's far exceeded what I thought he could accomplish with his white label and already made back what he invested in the domain.

Nice to hear that it worked out. I never liked the idea of him losing the domain.

That is what he wanted to do 2 years or so ago. From my recollection, he had an ultimatum, stop with the posts making streamate look bad, or lose his whitelabel with them.
Then, in a couple blaze of glory, insane threads, he went out in a bang. Banning himself from the forum.

No way did he take what was given to him from GFY and apply it. He has a partner if he is doing more then just the type in traffic, is that you?

And if he is releases an affiliate program, the biggest question, at the time, was....... who is going to pay these affiliates? The structure was set up that he would need at least a couple hundred K to cover the initial overhead of the affiliate program.

Finally, if you are the one helping him with outside traffic sources, can you email me as well ;) I'm serious, I have a killer cam site... set up awesome to convert, and would love to know some more avenues to drive traffic to it. :thumbsup mjmj00 aol