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Pornaffs 01-19-2013 02:38 PM

Why can't I get any affiliates to sign up?
 
PORNaffs.com... I have 3DSexParadise.com and 3DGay.com. Is the 3D niche dead? Is anyone still promoting it? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any comments/advice...

Penny24Seven 01-19-2013 02:45 PM

LOL I have hundreds that have signed up but never sent a single hit, That will be your next thread. Maybe I have to email them or something. Never tried that

Some Guy 01-19-2013 02:48 PM

With the economy (and porn industry) as fucked as it is, people probably don't want to spend their money on what's basically cartoons having sex. It's hard enough to make sales for an actual porn site.

As somewhat of an artist I have a lot of respect for those 3D sites, don't get me wrong. I just don't see them being big moneymakers anytime soon.

Profits of Doom 01-19-2013 02:54 PM

Is pornaffs.com the affiliate program or is 3dxbucks.com?

2013 01-19-2013 02:57 PM

No money in porn

signupdamnit 01-19-2013 03:03 PM

With Pornhub and others giving away everyone's content for free (and with some sponsors helping it along by giving them content they won't give their affiliates) ratios have crashed on affiliates and many have left the industry. Combine that with rampant shaving and it has sent even more away. I have sponsors who did an acceptable 1:2,000 for the last couple years who suddenly started doing 1:9,000 in July and ever since (on MPA3). There is a certain dating sponsor who went from 1:1000 to over 1:4000 last April and now shaves at least 1/3 of my uniques based on my data. Then there is an even bigger dating sponsor who completely crashed around September for new joins and rebills. This kind of thing sends affiliates away and we get skeptical when new sponsors come along and decide it may not be worth the hassle trying to push you. You are doing one thing right at least. You are using CCBill which makes it less risky to try out a new site. I might give you a shot. You can't be any worse than 1/9000, right? ;)

Harmon 01-19-2013 03:04 PM

Signs of the times :2 cents:
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Pornaffs 01-19-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19433492)
Is pornaffs.com the affiliate program or is 3dxbucks.com?

pornaffs.com is the aff program although it hasn't really begun yet...

Some Guy 01-19-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19433505)
With Pornhub and others giving away everyone's content for free (and with some sponsors helping it along by giving them content they won't give their affiliates) ratios have crashed on affiliates and many have left the industry. Combine that with rampant shaving and it has sent even more away.

This.

:thumbsup

Pornaffs 01-19-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19433505)
With Pornhub and others giving away everyone's content for free (and with some sponsors helping it along by giving them content they won't give their affiliates) ratios have crashed on affiliates and many have left the industry. Combine that with rampant shaving and it has sent even more away. I have sponsors who did an acceptable 1:2,000 for the last couple years who suddenly started doing 1:9,000 in July and ever since (on MPA3). There is a certain dating sponsor who went from 1:1000 to over 1:4000 last April and now shaves at least 1/3 of my uniques based on my data. Then there is an even bigger dating sponsor who completely crashed around September for new joins and rebills. This kind of thing sends affiliates away and we get skeptical when new sponsors come along and decide it may not be worth the hassle trying to push you. You are doing one thing right at least. You are using CCBill which makes it less risky to try out a new site. I might give you a shot. You can't be any worse than 1/9000, right? ;)

if i can't do better than 1/9000 i'm going to pull the plug and go work at walmart...

http://gspence1173.files.wordpress.c...lmart-empl.jpg

Profits of Doom 01-19-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornaffs (Post 19433519)
pornaffs.com is the aff program although it hasn't really begun yet...

Are you affiliated with 3dxbucks? Some nice sites in there, and they are also still listed as your affiliate program on 3dsexparadise.com...

Pornaffs 01-19-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19433548)
Are you affiliated with 3dxbucks? Some nice sites in there, and they are also still listed as your affiliate program on 3dsexparadise.com...

i was going to sell under 3dxbucks but decided to start a new program and concentrate on only a 2 or 3 brands max.. 3dx does well with 3dgirlz2..

Profits of Doom 01-19-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornaffs (Post 19433563)
i was going to sell under 3dxbucks but decided to start a new program and concentrate on only a 2 or 3 brands max.. 3dx does well with 3dgirlz2..

Ah ok gotcha, well that could be part of the reason you aren't getting affiliates to sign up, if they see your site and see 3dxbucks as the webmaster link they are probably signing up there...

Pornaffs 01-19-2013 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19433566)
Ah ok gotcha, well that could be part of the reason you aren't getting affiliates to sign up, if they see your site and see 3dxbucks as the webmaster link they are probably signing up there...

yea i'm fixing it now thanks for pointing that out doom...

signupdamnit 01-19-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornaffs (Post 19433535)
if i can't do better than 1/9000 i'm going to pull the plug and go work at walmart...

http://gspence1173.files.wordpress.c...lmart-empl.jpg

The problem is they all say this. The other problem is affiliate tracking is never that great and you'll do much better than your average affiliate will for different reasons. When sponsors don't convert better than 1:2000 or somewhere thereabouts it soon gets to the point where the affiliate is just providing free branding. It barely covers the costs on some video sites. Just sharing my perspective here and answering your question. There is a good chance your site does better if you are keeping the content under lock and key.

Profits of Doom 01-19-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornaffs (Post 19433570)
yea i'm fixing it now thanks for pointing that out doom...

No worries man, cartoon and 3D porn is far from my specialty but I've been planning on building a few blogs and giving it a shot, I'll sign up to your program... :thumbsup

Mike Dutch 01-20-2013 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Some Guy (Post 19433483)
With the economy (and porn industry) as fucked as it is, people probably don't want to spend their money on what's basically cartoons having sex. It's hard enough to make sales for an actual porn site.

As somewhat of an artist I have a lot of respect for those 3D sites, don't get me wrong. I just don't see them being big moneymakers anytime soon.

These products are heavy pushed on Tubesite ads [top 15 tubes] and got high CPM's, these products compete and cash hard ;)

Mike Dutch 01-20-2013 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornaffs (Post 19433472)
PORNaffs.com... I have 3DSexParadise.com and 3DGay.com. Is the 3D niche dead? Is anyone still promoting it? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any comments/advice...

Feel free to skype me if you
* Are willing to add a different processor to your sites
* Can update regurarly
* Easy to make new tours
* Provide me with a u/p to your members arees

CurrentlySober 01-20-2013 05:18 AM

Because you are probably a CUNT

Not a that you ARE...

Just that I asked a QUESTION???

Bogdan 01-20-2013 06:03 AM

Catch me on ICq brother

scubadiver626 01-20-2013 08:16 AM

Most affiliates stick to top converting niche sites. I want rebills, I'm getting lazy trying new programs.

Pornaffs 01-20-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scubadiver626 (Post 19434440)
Most affiliates stick to top converting niche sites. I want rebills, I'm getting lazy trying new programs.

ccbill is great with rebills and i think both of these sites will convert well especially 3dgay.com for gay traffic...

Webmaster Advertising 01-20-2013 11:22 AM

I can't say why others haven't signed up but here are the reasons I didn't:

1) Your site (both of them) look like crap, almost like we've been transported back to the 80's or early 90's, I would highly suggest getting a 'real' designer to redevelop both your paysite and affiliate program site.

2) Your affiliate site tells me NOTHING about why I should be promoting you, how much do you offer, whats the minimum payout, how well does the site convert, average ratios, promo tools, what happens if i need to get in touch with you about something, etc...

3) See #1

Pornaffs 01-20-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19434619)
I can't say why others haven't signed up but here are the reasons I didn't:

1) Your site (both of them) look like crap, almost like we've been transported back to the 80's or early 90's, I would highly suggest getting a 'real' designer to redevelop both your paysite and affiliate program site.

2) Your affiliate site tells me NOTHING about why I should be promoting you, how much do you offer, whats the minimum payout, how well does the site convert, average ratios, promo tools, what happens if i need to get in touch with you about something, etc...

3) See #1

1) i know sites that look worse and have had over a million in sales in 2 years... (but you're right they do look a little outdated.)

2) i just started...

pornmasta 01-20-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornaffs (Post 19433472)
PORNaffs.com... I have 3DSexParadise.com and 3DGay.com. Is the 3D niche dead? Is anyone still promoting it? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any comments/advice...

seriously, it's not the first time that i see your ads...

pornmasta 01-20-2013 12:12 PM

http://pornaffs.com/members.html

pornmasta 01-20-2013 12:17 PM

ok so it's pornaffs ?

now i go to http://pornaffs.com/sites.html

i go to sex paradise:
http://www.3dsexparadise.com/

i scroll down, webmaster link, and i'm redirected to http://www.3dxbucks.com/
and not pornaffs...

baddog 01-20-2013 12:18 PM

Would you rather have 300 people sign up that never send a hit? Was the 3D niche ever popular?

MrDeiz 01-20-2013 12:18 PM

we are promoting your site under 3D X Bucks
is that okay?
http://www.signbucks.com/sites/view/...d_sex_paradise

pornmasta 01-20-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19434705)
we are promoting your site under 3D X Bucks
is that okay?
http://www.signbucks.com/sites/view/...d_sex_paradise

i agree there is a problem somewhere

pornmasta 01-20-2013 12:24 PM

"What forms of payment do you offer? Do you pay out through paypal?

Answer: Checks, Wires, ACH, Epassporte. No, we do not offer paypal as a payment option"

for a ccbill program ?

http://pornaffs.com/faq.html

(last update of the page: 08/19/2012)

"What company will I receive payments from?

Answer: CCbill"

pornmasta 01-20-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19434711)
"What forms of payment do you offer? Do you pay out through paypal?

Answer: Checks, Wires, ACH, Epassporte. No, we do not offer paypal as a payment option"


Domain Name: PORNAFFS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.PORNAFFS.COM
Name Server: NS2.PORNAFFS.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 29-oct-2012
Creation Date: 15-nov-2011
Expiration Date: 15-nov-2014


Money in motion ?

pornmasta 01-20-2013 12:48 PM

i checked the account id of a possible transaction and at 3dsexparadise.com it was, 944500 so like pornaffs, while at 3dstripper, it is 931191 (like for 3dxbucks.com)

something stinks here..

Pornaffs 01-20-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19434702)
ok so it's pornaffs ?

now i go to http://pornaffs.com/sites.html

i go to sex paradise:
http://www.3dsexparadise.com/

i scroll down, webmaster link, and i'm redirected to http://www.3dxbucks.com/
and not pornaffs...

i'm fixing that now... ccbill billing and tracking are all through pornaffs...

baddog 01-20-2013 12:57 PM

ePassporte?

Pornaffs 01-20-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19434705)
we are promoting your site under 3D X Bucks
is that okay?
http://www.signbucks.com/sites/view/...d_sex_paradise

i just clicked your link and its tracking through pornaffs... signup under pornaffs though so i can adjust your rev share higher... thanks man

pornmasta 01-20-2013 01:01 PM

pornaffs:
go to http://www.3dsexparadise.com/ scroll down the page.
You see "$$ Webmasters Click Here $$ "
http://www.3dxbucks.com/

can you please update it to pornaffs, to make sure that people are credited for their sales ?
Btw why do you split your websites in 2 webmaster programs ?
To try to shave people ?

Roald 01-20-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dutch (Post 19434339)
These products are heavy pushed on Tubesite ads [top 15 tubes] and got high CPM's, these products compete and cash hard ;)

Of course, people are curious when they see these cartoon ads and fall for the "free" to join attached to it ;))

Wilsy 01-20-2013 01:07 PM

Damn dude if you haven't already hit Mike Dutch up ASAP if you can accommodate them few requests for him you have hit jackpot, them guys know how to push traffic, great crew..

Pornaffs 01-20-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19434772)
pornaffs:
go to http://www.3dsexparadise.com/ scroll down the page.
You see "$$ Webmasters Click Here $$ "
http://www.3dxbucks.com/

can you please update it to pornaffs, to make sure that people are credited for their sales ?
Btw why do you split your websites in 2 webmaster programs ?
To try to shave people ?

it's updated, and no these are new sites with barely any sales yet they haven't been promoted.. i'm just starting out...

pornmasta 01-20-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornaffs (Post 19434806)
it's updated, and no these are new sites with barely any sales yet they haven't been promoted.. i'm just starting out...

Domain Name: 3DSEXPARADISE.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
Name Server: NS2.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 18-dec-2012
Creation Date: 17-feb-2012
Expiration Date: 17-feb-2013

Pornaffs 01-20-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19434814)
Domain Name: 3DSEXPARADISE.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
Name Server: NS2.3DSEXPARADISE.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 18-dec-2012
Creation Date: 17-feb-2012
Expiration Date: 17-feb-2013

yea man i wasn't really motivated to work on this until now... stop trying to find something wrong with it and sell.

pornmasta 01-20-2013 01:52 PM

well i tried something with the 3dstripped
I have traffic that should convert

adultmobile 01-20-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19433479)
LOL I have hundreds that have signed up but never sent a single hit

Yes same here, only 1 every like 100 affiliate signups will send hits... but I think lots of them click here and there and signup and not even know what they're doing, it's not affiliates in first place.
Afew people signups on a month then start sent hits after 1-3 or even 6 months, however, it's just... like when I made an account in plugrush, deposit $$ there, and used it after like a year as I was lazy to read how it worked.

Pornaffs 01-20-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19434857)
well i tried something with the 3dstripped
I have traffic that should convert

3dstripper is a different program... promote 3dsexparadise instead...

HandballJim 01-20-2013 02:47 PM

I'll sign up eventually since I am working on an Adult Games site :2 cents:

pornmasta 01-20-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 19434932)
I'll sign up eventually since I am working on an Adult Games site :2 cents:

what's your website ?

HandballJim 01-20-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19434933)
what's your website ?

its just a domain at the moment, in the process of reviewing WP themes...

RyuLion 01-20-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19433493)
No money in porn

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CurrentlySober 01-21-2013 04:37 AM

i enjoy shit..


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