'Stand Your Ground' Linked To Increase In Homicides

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  • xenigo
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 8067

    #1

    'Stand Your Ground' Linked To Increase In Homicides

    This reiterates what I posted last night regarding everyone, including the aggressor thinking they're in the right to shoot the other person in a conflict. Everyone said I was full of shit... now you can see some actual statistics behind my words.

    "One possibility for the increase in homicide is that perhaps [in cases where] there would have been a fistfight ... now, because of stand your ground laws, it's possible that those escalate into something much more violent and lethal," says Hoekstra.

    It's important to remember that the data Hoekstra is analyzing depend on how police classify shootings. Police guidelines likely vary from state to state, and police in different places may be interpreting shootings differently in light of stand your ground laws.

    Still, based on the available data, it appears that crafters of these laws sought to give good guys more latitude to defend themselves against bad guys. But what Hoekstra's data suggest is that in real-life conflicts, both sides think of the other guy as the bad guy. Both believe the law gives them the right to shoot.
    http://www.npr.org/2013/01/02/167984...se-in-homicide

    Here's the audio: http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/a...102_atc_04.mp3
    Last edited by xenigo; 01-02-2013, 05:00 PM.
  • brassmonkey
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    • Sep 2005
    • 77390

    #2
    sounds like fun
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    • Mr Pheer
      So Fucking Banned
      • Dec 2002
      • 22082

      #3
      After a few people get prosecuted for being the aggressor, and a few people learn the hard way not to go fucking with other people, it will all sort itself out.

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      • AdultPornMasta
        Confirmed User
        • May 2012
        • 1506

        #4
        Originally posted by Mr Pheer
        After a few people get prosecuted for being the aggressor, and a few people learn the hard way not to go fucking with other people, it will all sort itself out.
        "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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        • AdultPornMasta
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          • May 2012
          • 1506

          #5
          Originally posted by xenigo
          This reiterates what I posted last night regarding everyone, including the aggressor thinking they're in the right to shoot the other person in a conflict. Everyone said I was full of shit... now you can see some actual statistics behind my words.



          http://www.npr.org/2013/01/02/167984...se-in-homicide

          Here's the audio: http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/a...102_atc_04.mp3
          "It's important to remember that the data Hoekstra is analyzing depend on how police classify shootings. Police guidelines likely vary from state to state, and police in different places may be interpreting shootings differently in light of stand your ground laws."
          "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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          • L-Pink
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            • Mar 2005
            • 39151

            #6
            "Increase"? or just a better defense.

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            • brassmonkey
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              • Sep 2005
              • 77390

              #7
              Originally posted by Mr Pheer
              After a few people get prosecuted for being the aggressor, and a few people learn the hard way not to go fucking with other people, it will all sort itself out.
              you just have to have the right timing.
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              • xenigo
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                • Jan 2001
                • 8067

                #8
                Originally posted by L-Pink
                "Increase"? or just a better defense.
                What would have normally been a fist fight is now a gun battle.

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                • AdultPornMasta
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2012
                  • 1506

                  #9
                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                  "Increase"? or just a better defense.
                  "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                  • DTK
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                    • Feb 2002
                    • 4546

                    #10
                    Originally posted by xenigo
                    What would have normally been a fist fight is now a gun battle.
                    Indeed..
                    Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                    • brassmonkey
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                      • Sep 2005
                      • 77390

                      #11
                      Originally posted by xenigo
                      What would have normally been a fist fight is now a gun battle.
                      your in cali a fist fight can get you killed. 10 steps grab your shit and bust
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                      • AdultPornMasta
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                        • May 2012
                        • 1506

                        #12
                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                        "Increase"? or just a better defense.
                        "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                        • Voodoo
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                          • Sep 2002
                          • 10600

                          #13
                          I'll just sit back and wait it out. Eventually all the dummies will kill each other. Then I'll move in and bang all their widows.

                          "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                          • buzzard
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1276

                            #14
                            Didn't read it and I don't get it but you should stand your ground. If that means using weapons, then oh well.

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