Gun Control in the US
 

OK after watching that Piers Morgan clip it makes me sick that we have this debate over semi automatic weapons and the gun nuts come back with "well if the teachers were armed" bullshit
I say the President should grow some balls and say "we are going to look at the Constitution as it was ORIGINALLY intended BEFORE the second amendment"

THEN say you want to take away ALL guns even handguns except for law enforcement or military.....

you start with THAT argument and these fucks will be begging to only ban their precious semi automatic weapons

problem is they start with just banning semi automatic military weapons and there is nowhere to negotiate..... if this doesnt change things than clearly nothing will

why edit the current constitution, when adding the 'bill of rights' put forward by FDR would not only solve this problem, but many problems

edit: second bill of rights

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights

I may be out of the loop, but didn't the president already say fuck the constitution and is making moves to forcefully disarm Americans as we speak?

no he's not

Obama has no interest in banning any guns or taking guns away. He's going to push for stricter laws to obtain certain guns. Which makes perfect sense.

Over 11,000 people died from DUI related accidents. Around 8,500 from guns. Should we ban cars too?

Mentally disturbed, loner, violent video game playing, social misfits looking for attention, suicidal losers should make me give up my guns. Never happen.

yes we should ban cars smart ass.... and cancer.... and heart disease....

what an arguement.... that's what my kids say....

I'm not saying ban guns I'm saying it's time to stop the pandering and walking on eggshells with the gun nuts... if you need an assault rifle... I mean, WTF assault rifles....
I'd rather be getting laid

Basically everyone should be armed like Arnie in the Terminator movies according to some people.

Someone got stabbed where i live just over a week ago. I guess i should start to carry a knife with me...

hehehe.. Good luck with that. it will start another civil war. armed against some of the military, and oh wait then the government will have to arm more people to fight it.

its not about guns! its about family structure. the knowledge of using a weapon.

killing more people than AIDS since the dawn of time!

I suspect you are unclear on what makes an "assault rifle." :2 cents:

Hurr dey take away muh free-duhm!We need gunz to protect ourselfs from the a-rab turruris' !!444Muh free dooommm

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Aren't assault rifles FULLY AUTOMATIC or has the term been extended to include all semi automatic firearms like the AR15/AK47 just because of their popularity?

Good thing they outlawed carrying balisong knifes because those are way more dangerous than others.

every gun owner I know has the same shithead fantasy that in the middle of the night, they will hear a rustling at the window or door... and they will tip toe and get their gun and save the day by shooting the intruder... that shit never happens

Seriously you guys gotta drop this type of argument already, put forward a pro gun point if you like I dont care but just say something that makes a little sense and is not totally retarded.

Quit using actual facts.

unfortunately everyone has guns
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QS8lbfHUI3Q

PS- my rant on assault rifles goes ONLY for non Webmaster Central users... if your a client of Webmaster Central and you LIKE assault rifles... I'm totally cool with it hehehe

yeah it does happen, then they realize they just killed their son stumbling home after a few drinks.

Life is dangerous. Ban everything.

drinking and driving is already illegal, your argument is absolutely feeble.. try again

cherry picked facts for different problems is a complete waste of time, try again.

Murder is also already illegal so shooting someone should already be covered. Correct? No new gun laws needed.

Tabacco use - Personal choice.

Medical Errors - Different set of variables altogether.

Unintentional Injuries? From? - Lots of possible factors.

Alcohol Abuse - Personal choice.

Motor Vehicle Accidents - Vehicles are getting safer every year. Driving tests should
perhaps have some new rules added or be made harder.

Unintentional Poisoning - Stupidity? FDA Regulations not being strict enough? I don't know, lots of variables again.

Drug Abuse - Personal choice to some extent, more education needed? Perhaps.

Unintentional Falls - This unintentional stuff again? could also probably include the drug abuse and alcohol abuse factors? Or perhaps health and safety concerns?

Most of them (other than the 2 homicide figures) do not Involve any intent to cause harm to someone else though do they? Mostly accidents or Personal choices.

Pretty shocking stats though, does put it into a bit more perspective.

What's retarded about it? Someone generally with a disease/illness decided to use a deadly weapon to kill or harm someone. The gun related incidents that get "politicized" are generally someone with a mental illness who decided to use a deadly weapon to harm or kill someone. There are no apples and oranges here.

Too bad they didn't put vaccine related deaths in there. People line up to kill themselves with those.

Murdering someone with a gun is also already banned/illegal isn't it?

So is shooting someone with a gun.. Neither one of the laws stops people from doing it everyday.

Of course they should but that's no excuse for them to become ignorant cunts about it.

Criminals do not respect gun laws or gun bans so putting more of either on the books is beyond stupid.

Enforcing the current gun laws would be a better way to go.

If you think the war on drugs is working you will REALLY like the war on guns...

why is it that the two cities with the toughest gun control have the highest gun crime rates? (chicago and DC)

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Thanks for clearing that up! I love my guns!.

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Your comment is not the ignorance I was referring to. Sorry that it came off that way.

Unfortunately both sides of these discussions are full of ignorance.

I hear you. There's obviously no way to rid ourselves of guns altogether. But those fucking machine guns can and should be fucking banned. And Obama HAS grown some balls about this issue. He's had enough - like the rest of the nation.

There is no legit reason to buy and own a machine gun. They are designed for one purpose; to kill en masse. Hunters don't need them. Homeowners don't need them. The only ones who want them, are FREAKS.

Fucking ban them.

you're right. That really is the dumbest fucking argument.

fuck you and all your douchbag anti gun friends

Yes, but that wouldnt be as sensational to report the news as "someone use a semi-automatic rifle today blah blah blah"

Or "a lone gunman with a semi-automatic pistol"

It's more sensational to say an "assault rifle" or an "automatic handgun", because the media knows that the majority of people that watch the news are blithering idiots and will believe just about anything that it put before them.

Your chart needs to show INTENTIONAL Deaths.

Why, are you less dead? Are your families less devastated?


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There is a huge difference between accidents and mass murder. If you cannot see the difference, perhaps you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. Or a driver's license.

At the same time you can own a firearm at age 18 but cannot drink until you are 21. Go figure.

But I'm just as dead either way. Why are you so concerned with why and not the end result? Ban liquor or make people get licensed, pass background checks to purchase liquor. Think of all the lives saved.

That shit happens all the time actually. :2 cents:

its all about attitude, just look at their Canadian neighbors.

There is no reason for a civilian to own a clip that holds 30 rounds of ammunition. None. because he wants to? Fuck that. Just wipe your nose and get used to the new reality that you can't have 30 rounds in your clip, Diehard.

Jesus Christ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is even a stretch for you old man,

I wont be giving mine up because someone killed their mother and stole her guns and then shot some kids.

It's tragic but has nothing to do with me.

You couldnt get to mine in the first place unless you're experienced at opening a locked vault. So I'll be keeping them.

Dont care what anyone thinks about it.

Fucking beautifully put. "Just cuz I wanna" isn't good enough. Someone's right to have weapons of war "just cuz I wanna" doesn't supersede the rights of the rest to be safe.

There is NO legit reason to buy and own those weapons. They are designed for one thing - to kill large numbers of people. Want to hunt? Have a rifle. Want protection? Have a handgun. NOT A MACHINE GUN. Don't like it? Tough shit. Explain to the parents of those dead kids why you need one.

Fucking ban assault rifles NOW. Show me an assault rifle owner - I'll show you a FREAK.

REAL sportsmen have no use for them. REAL homeowners have no use for them.

Paranoid, mentally unstable freaks are the only ones who want them. BAN THEM NOW.