very original idea: freecamsecrets.com
 

Very original idea: freecamsecrets.com from Streamate :)
I am sure they never seen freecamsexposed.com and it is purely accidentally a copy.

Or is this by crakmedia too?

That looks like crakmedia

interesting

i believe it is cooperation with crak

3 usd per free reg i believe

Domain name is registered by streamate, not crakmedia, but could be a crakmedia cooperation. If not, would be quite funny :)
Still I wonder how streamate is "free". I mean to sell myfreecams as "never pay for cams" this is very legit. To sell streamate as seeing all for free, this is quite questionable imho.

It gets the members in the door but I agree, the "free" mentality doesn't mesh well with Streamate.

bait and switch.

top notch, stand up.

Thats not our video or product. When FreeCamsExposed.com came out, a lot of companies tried to create their own version.

Streamate's version isn't half bad compared to a few other lemons I saw trying to imitate my style.

We've since decided to work with streamate instead of having them compete against us. Its worked out great so far.

Our approach with Streamate is different.

Although the entire site isn't free like MFC, registration is free and its free to watch most of the girls.

A lot of them will put on free shows just for promotional uses. Have a look at Nakita Lynn for example, her free cam stream is full of hot stuff, but if you want 1 on 1 interaction, you gotta pay. There are also Gold shows which is an MFC style group type of show where everybody chips in a few bucks.

Well they compete for sure, alexa rank #540 in US, domain popped up half november:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/freecamsecrets.com

I have models in streamate and their rules for free chat is: not show any pussy, can show max topless. Looking the video carefully, it is misleading, not saying it is a false advertising, but, it is like they're saying hey myfreecams it is us, not them.

Also adultking may be interested to know this is poping up in: thepiratebay.se , kat.ph , isohunt.com and few others. Just click the "clickstream" tab in alexa to see traffic sources :)

We have a special deal with SM, if you want to push those page and get paid PPL you need to work with us, this one is for their internal media buy only and will never be public.

Our version that push Streamate is http://www.exposedwebcams.com and it public in crakrevenue.

It pay up to 6$ per free and trust me it convert to paid users more than many traditional marketing strategies.

As for the inspiration, we all get inspired by what outperform us.. and being source of inspiration, specially for huge players like them, is the best flattery.

Streamate and MFC are 2 very different sites but both extremely great to work with and its an honor for me to have both as partners.

Hit us up if your interested in promoting those wonderful offers.

Cheers

Looks like watch for free live(recorded) chat with another customer. Or pay if you wanna join chat(some another stream).

Derek's voice is a bit more motivating ;)

You can find nudity all the time in free chat on streamate, just look for the gold shows. More and more models there are realizing the potential of tips from nudity in public chat vs waiting for the private show that may never come.

Rules for models in free chat vary though, I've seen plenty of masturbation shows without even being logged in. So whats being said in Freecamsecrets is true to a certain extent.

I took a different approach when creating the video for ExposedWebcams and its been working great.

haha maybe I should get into Podcasting or something.

Yes you should !
PornMan podcast - how to get free porn , how to make cash with porn

Derek is the Porn Man

Ok so those "never pay for cams again" video blogs are officially a classic. What's next, "we pay you to watch cams"? :)

You may be onto something there.

i was just on pirate bay looking up some lyrics , and got a pop for this freecam secrets shit

Yes that's the clickstream from alexa stats:

5.09% thepiratebay.se
3.42% 1channel.ch
2.04% putlocker.com
2.03% thefirstrow.eu
1.45% kat.ph
1.14% isohunt.com
0.91% movie2k.to

interesting

does something like that actually work and convert as pop up/under?

i dont think crakcash would be doing promotional methods like this if it didn't work :)

They are on many fileshare sites popping under and up. I never knew of them before I started watching online movies @ movie2k.to
;)

Yes Streamate Gold Shows are smart. Model sets price and time, example $100 for 20 minutes, and until reached this total from users, nothing shown - and then it willbe shown only to who paid a minimum ticket.
That's how group works in freecamstars too, and we've implemented group in tubecamgirl the same way.
The myfreecams and chaturbate way of group shows it requires min 3 people to join a group to start it, but then 2 of them can quit immediately, and model is left with 1 guy alone which brings 50 cent a minute or less, not a best deal for her. It is a system valuable only for the very few models with dozens or hundreds of guys in a group, in top rows of first page. I think mfc make this on purpose anyway, not saying it is bad for mfc, just said it is bad for models.

it pops up on piratebay.se and I would guess many other similar sites.

You know you're doing something right if somebody knocks off your idea.

ESET NOD32 Antivirus
Access denied
Details:
Web page: http://freecamsecrets.com
Comment: Access to the web page was blocked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. The web page is on the list of websites with potentially dangerous content.

http://i.imgur.com/qePnN3D.png

So hot! Where'd this come from??? :winkwink::thumbsup:2 cents:

P.S. Jason, are you the voice of Derek???

"never pay for anything again" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

find ways to devalue a billion $$$ business and score some quick and easy points with a fake carrot on a lying stick whilst training people not to give money :1orglaugh and then claim its a "proven concept" and others are "imitating" :1orglaugh

Yes I love when guys write us: "you think I am idiot? You ask money for cam shows, this is so outdated. You should read that blog too they so smart we all learned how to never pay again for cams, you're fucked".

what i don't understand is how all that free and never pay for cams actually converts to paid signup and returning revs membership...

because one day, they see a girl they really really like and HAVE to pay to see more of her.

and they are probably emailed relentlessly about it too!

are there similar versions without the audio?

I personally hate it and sure surfers do too.

Yes I see very often "first sale" of user, then go check he registered 1 or 2 years before, and been freeloaders for 1000000 minutes...
That's not an instant sale.

Never claimed it was an instant sale.

Yup. I voiced the video. I'm sexy and talented. Who would have thought? :)

Impulse buys. What adult has always been built on. You can tell them anything to appeal to them... Then show them what they really want and charge them for it.

They find a chic who makes them super horny and buy credits to motivate her to get naked / what they want and after the initial buy, they find it far easier to spend spend spend...

Cams rarely impulse, I see free user signup in 2011, be freeloader for 2 years (either login often or rarely does not matter, he say I will never pay), and first sale in 2013 after watch free 2 years. Some time - even spend a fortune after it.
It is more likely an subtle long-term addiction - the guy thinks he is in control of his wallet, he just watches free. But after months or years of watching for free a certain girl, he falls in love so big, that he wants to give her all his money.

That's very true.

I noticed that i have people sign up months before they start to buy credits but when they do its like they have no control

back to "free" part...

i see all that free prefixed cam phrases are mostly searched by the peeps from the poor 3rd world countries, not the ones from who you'd expect to make some monies....

my nod32 blocks this site with warning
"Warning: Potential phishing threat"

So, streamate is not free... Is it?

Spend some time on the site, you can browse models and view live cams for free, but will need to create an account to signup. Streamate has "Gold Shows" where models will get nude in free chat(similar to MFC) in exchange for tips. You can promote Streamate directly and get 30% revshare or $40 for a simple credit card verification without the user even making a purchase. You can also promote Streamate via Crakrevenue and get paid per free email lead also.