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  • Harmon
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    • Mar 2004
    • 20012

    #1

    TGPs are dead.......................

    Anybody that tells you that a good old fashion TGP can not generate sales or leads is lying to you. I am not a TGP/MGP owner. This is friendly advice to noobies.

    First of all, with bandwidth being so cheap? Fuck it, throw some movie galleries or picture galleries out there. People around here tend to forget that it is hard to watch porn videos at home when the wife and kids are looming just mere inches away from your PC. This is a fact.

    Guys like to watch, and they like to watch knowing that they possibly could get caught. Maybe not all guys, but yeah...

    What does it hurt? You still have plenty of start of the web/old school surfers out there. Are they as prevalant as they were in 1998? Nope, but still. Why not? Throw up 12-15 pictures or a few videos and submit to those that still accept them. If you think nobody accepts handmade galleries? Think again. Think TheHun.net - think Patrick hasn't swapped out for the tube model for a good reason? I know why, and he still gets quality traffic. Why? He has never fucked anybody over.

    I can think of at least a dozen people that still follow this model, and they are still there... operating like tubes did not exist. It's quality, not quantity... that's where a lot of you guys fail. I'll go on...

    A million quality hits will generate more sales per surfer. Plain and simple. TheHun generates quality/bookmarked traffic. It get exposure... as much as the tubes you ask? No, that's apparent. However, may they come via search engines or sheer loyalty, they come - they buy - they remember.

    Tubes? Fuck, where do I begin... It's a crap shoot. I can only imagine how many bots, scrapers, etc are scrubbing them out every minute. The thing is? There is no sales pitch. Not much of one anyways.

    People inherently like to be sold things, otherwise infomercials would not exist. People want a deal. If you make it pretty, slap a bow on it - and throw it in their faces they will buy it.

    Tubes are shooting themselves in the foot with cam pupunders, HD buttons that take you to a join page etc. It's bad, and they quality sucks.

    All in all, build a better product, revert your mind back to the original model... let them steal it. Sue them, DMCA them, hire somebody - but in the end, people want substance.

    Remember, when you get paid it's nice to go out and buy something awesome that you worked for. It feels good knowing you worked for it.

    Hit that angle? And it's 1998 again. Man, I'm stoned.
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  • CurrentlySober
    Too lazy to wipe my ass
    • Aug 2002
    • 38944

    #2
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    • Evil Chris
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      • Dec 2001
      • 13247

      #3
      Good post. You're in the mood to help today? I like it.

      Now back to posting shock-value pics.


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      • Harmon
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        • Mar 2004
        • 20012

        #4
        Originally posted by CurrentlySober
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        • Harmon
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          • Mar 2004
          • 20012

          #5
          Originally posted by Evil Chris
          Good post. You're in the mood to help today? I like it.

          Now back to posting shock-value pics.
          Done

          Yeah, I actually thought about giving back
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          • brassmonkey
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            • Sep 2005
            • 77385

            #6
            Originally posted by Evil Chris
            Good post. You're in the mood to help today? I like it.

            Now back to posting shock-value pics.
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            • signupdamnit
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2007
              • 6697

              #7
              TGPs aren't dead and will never be dead. At least not within the next decade. But they are declining. There is a reason all these TGPs are being sold lately. That's kind of deceiving though. It's not just TGPs it's the paysite affiliate. It's a combination of less sales and actually getting paid for a smaller amount of the sales you still generate as an affiliate. TGPs typically are affiliates to some degree.

              The people selling aren't dumb. They know what they made per 1 million visitors and they compare it over time and see trends. If your traffic is declining and your $ per visitor is likewise decreasing it doesn't take a psychic to predict what will likely happen.

              If you saw your revenue decrease in the last two years 40% and someone is offering you 1-3 years current revenue for your site then you are probably going to take it.
              Last edited by signupdamnit; 11-30-2012, 10:12 AM.

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              • PR_Glen
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2006
                • 9058

                #8
                we still have tgp guys making money with us. plenty making money with tubes also though so just a different sales method at the end of the day.
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                • Harmon
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 20012

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PR_Glen
                  we still have tgp guys making money with us. plenty making money with tubes also though so just a different sales method at the end of the day.
                  Our guys, as in OUR guys (employees) or our guys as in affiliates? I am just curious.
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                  • LeRoy
                    Porn Pusher
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 13362

                    #10
                    TGP's are not dead! Severely wounded yes

                    We have quite a few affiliates that own TGP's . They're still making daily sales to our program.
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                    • xNetworx
                      So Fucking What
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 14445

                      #11

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                      • Best-In-BC
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                        • Jun 2002
                        • 9509

                        #12
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                        • JamesM
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                          • Nov 2012
                          • 732

                          #13
                          Very true, there are tgp sites making bank., as times have changed , TGP's with a single page and only 20-40 galleries wont make you bank , affiliates have to work hard and stick to the plan.

                          very great read.
                          Thanks Harmon


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                          • pornguy
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 62910

                            #14
                            I have a number of affiliates that make great money using TGP/MGP sites.
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                            • Harmon
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 20012

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JamesM
                              Very true, there are tgp sites making bank., as times have changed , TGP's with a single page and only 20-40 galleries wont make you bank , affiliates have to work hard and stick to the plan.

                              very great read.
                              Thanks Harmon
                              I wouldn't call it "bank", but there are guy out there pulling in some decent money. Times have changed.

                              Giving it is not selling it. Selling it is not an ENTER HERE hyperlink any longer. Selling it is about the pitch. School the end user about why it is that they can not function properly unless they join.

                              Use tube sites against them. Let them know the degraded quality, the lack on exclusivity. Make your back end fun, make it interactive. Make it an experience that they can not get outside of the back end of your member's area. Forums, social networking (internal), likes, dislikes... just like minded individuals being like minded with enough to keep them busy...

                              and then up sell mainstream dating (WHICH PAYS BTW) by taking your members through a couple of different domains in a frame.

                              In the end, all they want is to get laid. No, they are not fucking Alexis Texas, but it's REAL and the will credit you for the fat chick they fucked last week in the back of an F250.
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                              • Klen
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 32234

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Harmon
                                Our guys, as in OUR guys (employees) or our guys as in affiliates? I am just curious.
                                Affiliates.

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                                • grzepa
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 1264

                                  #17
                                  Nice thread... maybe i'll build some tgps. Anyone knows of some cheap/easytouse tgp script ?
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                                  • cybermike
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 4121

                                    #18
                                    Maybe.. but i know google has not been looking kindly to my little tgps this year
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                                    • Va2k
                                      I’m still alive barley.
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 10060

                                      #19
                                      80% of the time I love reading your post, and this one TOPS a lot of them off. Thanks for the info, it's weird shit like this I KNOW but forget about till it is brought back up ya know? Thanks man.
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                                      • bluebook18
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 4082

                                        #20


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                                        • lucas131
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                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 11475

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CamBoss
                                          arte ...

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                                          • Ringo
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2012
                                            • 431

                                            #22
                                            thanks for your post. however the hun is there since many years...
                                            TGP/MGP in 2013?

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                                            • nikki99
                                              Supermodel
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 23072

                                              #23
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                                              • L-Pink
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                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 39151

                                                #24
                                                bump …...

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                                                • crazydollars
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Nov 2012
                                                  • 146

                                                  #25
                                                  this thread sucks

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                                                  • CaptainHowdy
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                    • 94026

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lucas131
                                                    arte ...

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                                                    • epitome
                                                      So Fucking Lame
                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                      • 12156

                                                      #27
                                                      According to Franck you could not post a thread like that when stoned.

                                                      Just like the propaganda video we know that you go out in black face and rape white women when high.

                                                      Nice troll attempt Harmon but you can't make sense when high.

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                                                      • RyuLion
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 32364

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by nikki99
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                                                        • HandballJim
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2008
                                                          • 4024

                                                          #29
                                                          some TGP's are like landmines though, so traffic keeps going to the well know trusted websites.
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                                                          • charlie g
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                            • 2759

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HandballJim
                                                            some TGP's are like landmines though, so traffic keeps going to the well know trusted websites.
                                                            huh?








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                                                            • adultmobile
                                                              No, I am not banned
                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 5345

                                                              #31
                                                              This post misses paul markham.

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                                                              • Harmon
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                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 20012

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by epitome
                                                                According to Franck you could not post a thread like that when stoned.

                                                                Just like the propaganda video we know that you go out in black face and rape white women when high.

                                                                Nice troll attempt Harmon but you can't make sense when high.
                                                                What video? What are you talking about? You are a moron, seriously.

                                                                Originally posted by crazydollars
                                                                this thread sucks
                                                                Thanks for you input, 8 post
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                                                                • The Porn Nerd
                                                                  Living The Dream
                                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                                  • 19780

                                                                  #33
                                                                  GREAT post Harmon! Thanks for reminding us of what we should already know....

                                                                  But let's smoke a doob and brainstorm here a bit:

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                                                                  Okay, can you list the TGPs that are still accepting submissions (NON-paid) besides The Hun?

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                                                                  • Nicky
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 30071

                                                                    #34
                                                                    So does anyone know how thehun makes money?

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                                                                    • beks001
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                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 1837

                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • Supz
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                                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                                        • 11057

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I thought this thread would be from 2007,8

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                                                                        • epitome
                                                                          So Fucking Lame
                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                          • 12156

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Harmon
                                                                          What video? What are you talking about? You are a moron, seriously.
                                                                          Edit: I was going to be sarcastic in this reply, but that too would probably fly over your head so never mind.

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                                                                          • geirlur
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                            • 2025

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                            So does anyone know how thehun makes money?
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                                                                            • Kenny B!
                                                                              Confirmed Abuser
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 5718

                                                                              #39
                                                                              We still produce movie and picture galleries and I often wonder if the time/energy/money spent making them is worth while. Most MGP's have turned into tubes, TGP's are still making sales, that I can confirm but will they end up as pin sites down the road as that format is now taking off.

                                                                              The way I see it, the MGP's sole purpose was to promote a paysite with samples, the main purpose of most tubes is to get as many page views as possible and sell ad space by impression. The income from sending sales to sponsors isn't a priority anymore unfortunately.

                                                                              Times change, it's a fact of life. A happy medium would be on pages with sponsored clips the ads are for the paysite uploading that 5+ minute clip. To give the content owner 1 link out of 8 ads on the page isn't right. To make matters worse some tubes are taking their share of the watermark too.

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                                                                              • alex.missyouth
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                                                                                • Sep 2012
                                                                                • 1870

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Maybe yours are.
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                                                                                • VenusBlogger
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Nov 2011
                                                                                  • 1540

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Any PAID Partner Accounts still WORTH paying?

                                                                                  I know video-post.com was worth it, but they sold the site to a big traffic guy who converted it into tube...

                                                                                  What about AL4A/WorldSex/Ampland?

                                                                                  still worth it paying the 100 bucks monthly?

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                                                                                  • SGS
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                    • 5176

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Picture galleries are still very much worth it but affiliates have to know how to *sell* now. The scatter gun method of a few years ago is dead and gone. Every gallery and submission has to count now.
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