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mce 11-15-2012 05:53 PM

Anyone short selling Apple Stock?
 
AAPL looks like its running out of investors to buy into the momentum. Also, many hedge funds are unloading. It's still fundamentally a great stock but way over valued.... Anyone shorting this bad boy?

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-15-2012 05:54 PM

Poor Hedges

lezinterracial 11-15-2012 06:32 PM

I would have, If I could have. EPS of 44 is amazing, but seems there is too much competition now.

Good I can't do options though. I would have tried to short it at $200 a share a long time ago, And I would have lost.

Spudstr 11-15-2012 06:37 PM

everyone is bailing because of obama raising taxes and cap gains!

Socks 11-15-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mce (Post 19315766)
AAPL looks like its running out of investors to buy into the momentum. Also, many hedge funds are unloading. It's still fundamentally a great stock but way over valued.... Anyone shorting this bad boy?

Apple has lost just over 25% of its value since its peak in September just 2 months ago. Which means it's lost about $126 billion in value.

That loss is bigger than the entire net worth (market cap) of BP, Toyota, Vodafona, Ambev, Verizon, GSK, Visa, Pepsi, Citi, Amazon, Intel, Bank of America, etc.

xXXtesy10 11-15-2012 07:43 PM

FFN.pk.. Oh wait, not yet

SomeCreep 11-15-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mce (Post 19315766)
It's still fundamentally a great stock but way over valued....

:1orglaugh

Short it as hard as you can then. You'll be rich!

mce 11-15-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 19315957)
:1orglaugh

Short it as hard as you can then. You'll be rich!

If I do this, it will have to be in phases. I don't want to get OWN3D :1orglaugh No wonder the guys doing the shorting are big time hedge funds with BILLIONS to spare

jimmycooper 11-15-2012 09:31 PM

Technically, I've held a short position on AAPL every month for the past four years by writing calls against my LEAPS. lol Easy money. With that being said, I would not recommend an outright short position at the moment. I may sell a couple of the LEAPS next month, though.

slapass 11-15-2012 09:31 PM

I think they are out of great ideas. Msft was in 2000 but a short would have netted almost nothing in 10 years. Gold seems the better short IMO.

amateurcanada 11-15-2012 10:55 PM

Bailtron man.

FlowerKid 11-15-2012 11:16 PM

Better to sell your apple shares as soon as possible. Maybe it's a good idea to buy nokia again, because they have windows phone 8 devices now. But it's risky of course.

GAMEFINEST 11-15-2012 11:27 PM

I wished I owned AAPL

PR_Glen 11-16-2012 07:02 AM

its been far too unpredictable even for the 'experts' to figure out. would be safer to bet on black at a roullette table at this point.. Sure it's over valued, but it was over valued for the last few years and still went up some how.

Houdini 11-16-2012 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19316480)
its been far too unpredictable even for the 'experts' to figure out. would be safer to bet on black at a roullette table at this point.. Sure it's over valued, but it was over valued for the last few years and still went up some how.

How has it been "over valued" when it's been trading at 10-13 P/E for the last year? Most people just see the stock price and compare it against something else, say Micorsoft and see that it's trading at $27, so Apple must be over valued because it's $500+ They've got $120 billion in cash! They make $100 million a day in profit! They've got a lower P/E than any tech company out there! Fundamentals people.

Doctor Dre 11-16-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Houdini (Post 19316513)
How has it been "over valued" when it's been trading at 10-13 P/E for the last year? Most people just see the stock price and compare it against something else, say Micorsoft and see that it's trading at $27, so Apple must be over valued because it's $500+ They've got $120 billion in cash! They make $100 million a day in profit! They've got a lower P/E than any tech company out there! Fundamentals people.

Yeah but the way analysts see it is that the compagny has nowhere to go but down from here.

They are changing the winning formula of the apple stores etc. etc. etc.

Houdini 11-16-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 19316791)
Yeah but the way analysts see it is that the compagny has nowhere to go but down from here.

They are changing the winning formula of the apple stores etc. etc. etc.

When do analysts ever get it right? They've been calling a top since $300.

What's the winning formula of an Apple store? Keeping products in stock? They are selling out all their new products. In what world is that a negative thing?

CurrentlySober 11-16-2012 10:38 AM

i cunt afford to understand how to possibly begin to short sell appl stock :(

jimmycooper 11-16-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Houdini (Post 19316818)
When do analysts ever get it right? They've been calling a top since $300.

What's the winning formula of an Apple store? Keeping products in stock? They are selling out all their new products. In what world is that a negative thing?

Not only that but there is still plenty of room left for market share growth.

http://i.imgur.com/3Rv7P.png
http://i.imgur.com/exaPa.jpg

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspen...with-90-share/

JP-pornshooter 11-16-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houdini (Post 19316818)
When do analysts ever get it right? They've been calling a top since $300.

What's the winning formula of an Apple store? Keeping products in stock? They are selling out all their new products. In what world is that a negative thing?

quoted for truth...
guessing the Ipad is going to be a big seller again this year.

jimmycooper 11-16-2012 12:27 PM

The 24hr aapl store near FAO Schwarz is crowded as fuck all day every day and also through the evening.
The only time it slows down a bit is during the middle of the night.


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