Pornhub, Xhamster, Tube8, Youporn and all the others
 

Come on guys help us affiliates out by allowing us to either upload our own purchased content or affilate content in exchange for traffic back.

Most of you only allow program owners to do this, why not affliates as well ?

Nathan and all the other big tube owners come on work with affiliates as well not just program owners.

There are a few who allow this allready but we need mooooore :thumbsup

Why not just launch tons of tube sites and harvest SE traffic using longtails and link farms?

I dont want to build more tube sites I want the big tubes to work with affilates, they get content, affilates get traffic

so basically, rehash the old TGP traffic model? Looks like they are doing fine doing it their way, why change the model?

why ? because it will help all three the tubes, the program owners and the affiliates

Instead of all the hate about tubes from affiliates working with them is a win win on both sides. The program owners will also see an increase in revenues from affilates who submit to tubes, so its a win for them too, and the tubes will get even more free content so its a win for them to.

There are a few who allow this so it is working for them, but would be nice to see the big tubes follow suit, and we can all have a happy co-existance with tubes and all make more $$

never gonna happen though but its worth a shot :2 cents:

You have a point but once the big tube dudes partner with program owners, there's really not any space left for affiliates.

They have to bring something else to the table... something that program owners can't give...

Start a pay site with bought content and then submit?

The reason they do this is because they send sales. If you own a program and know how to work the tubes both the tube and the program makes great money. An affiliate cannot offer that to a tube. The big ones don't need traffic back they want to make sales as an affiliate.

I as an affiliate can buy content and submit it to tubes and then ask for traffic to an affiliate of my choice or to a website of my choice. If the affiliate has permisson from the program owner to submit his content then they only send traffic back to that program so the tube gets content the affilate gets sales and the program owner gets sales.

Its similar to program owners working with tubes but not having to do all the submits but rather letting the affilates do it instead, which in theory should send more sales to the program.

Now, we're on to something....

yep if you own a program then most tubes will work with you as most of them now have content partners but nothing for the poor old affiliates

Even if they can do some kind of revenue share with affilates as they do with their content partners its better than just leaving the affilates stone cold

Yup, theres an old guy on here that sells a complete package of content for just $3000

Cant remember his name, and havent seen him around in the last few days, but I'm sure he will help :2 cents:

Is he that very 'helpful' codger who seems to be quite, ahem, opinionated?

This would also mean more content shot for content producers if the demand for content went up so they would also make more $$

dont even need to spend 3k on content you can pick up fully licensed content for $5 for a 30 min movie now

What happens when 5 different submitters try submitting the same stuff? See where this is going? Tons of duplicate vids and lower quality experience for the user?

But would love to see the big tube owners in here just to see what they say about trying this out for the affiliates

There are duplicates on tubes allready under all diff names and titles or the program owners could allocate diff movies for the affilates who choose to submit movies to tube sites

How hard would it be for them to filter duplicates? Probably need buffed up software to do this....

In other words you say that he is IRRELEVANT???

Say it aint so!!! :helpme


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most prob would, more money for coders :thumbsup

I couldent see and I dont see the tubes looking for duplicates though

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I dont have a problem with the guy at all :)

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You can submit to the huge ones without an affiliate program, but your commission would be around 5-10% because you have to do a workaround with tiered affiliate IDs..
Let me know if you still want to know how.

Would love to know how please

Send me an email to col.mike7 at yahoo and I'll send you the instructions that the Youporn owner told me. :upsidedow

cheers will send you an email over :thumbsup

Tube sites likely prefer to work directly with companies versus affiliates for a few reasons:

For one, doing so legitimizes the legality of their tube. The users uploading own the content or rights to such and the relief of legal issues is immediate.

Secondly, they likely have the man power and again the legal right to upload any length the wish not just 0-3 mins.

Lastly, they are likely to use there own affiliate links versus other affiliate links which increases their over all revenue.

To wrap it up, they make money with others doing work for them because they have so much traffic and people want exposure more so than sales. Don't mark my words on this though. I'm not a doctor.

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The big tubes sign up for the affiliate programs themselves after registration to use for banners, which is how they make a lot of money. Any site that makes a lot of money on a tube, the tube make that combined. That leaves little to no options for affiliates.

Thanks again great info :thumbsup

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Hope it helps.

yep its a shame really and this is another reason I think there is so much hate for tubes amongst a lot of affilates.

Well, let's hope guys who did this end up doing better than the dude below:
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2...gworkoutp1.gif

I understand shit like this http://videarn.com better than most

Yeah I know you can make money from uploading videos on sites like that but this is not what I was on about

Tyring to see if there is any way for affiliates to make money with the big tubes and not just the program owners

Thanks to coolmike who sent me some info about this, which I had no idea even existed so there is light at the end of the tunnel :thumbsup

Affiliates is not such a reserved word anymore.

no its seems to be a dying word lol

Halfpint drop me an email and I will tell you what you can do (if you aren't already doing it). Only telling halfpint though since he started this thread... so I don't need emails from a bunch of people.

[email protected]

(Taking the day off so probably won't reply until tomorrow)

It's a degraded term yes

ok bud will drop you an email and thanks much appreciated :thumbsup

It will come from halpint070 at hotmail.co.uk

You're welcome. I use spam arrest so make sure to clear that and I will put together a decent reply with examples when I am sitting at my computer and focused.

Ok will do and thanks again :thumbsup

bump for more :thumbsup

Yeah i watched yesterday movie food inc and i see some parallels between meat food and adult industry,at both cases market is dominated by few biggest companies.

Allowing tubes to post affiliates' clips does NOT help the program owner....

Besides, the tubes ARE the affiliates....

The pie is only so big people.....

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I did tube submitting as an affilite before they shut the door. I would water mark the video with my url and just redirect them right to the paysite. I caught a few sales but not nearly enough to make it worth the time and effort.

6 billion people on earth, how many buy porn? The pie is not even close to capacity.

I don't get the maths.

The tube sites are already the affiliate. So they get the 50%. So do you want the tube to split that with you, or the programme to give you their share?

I also don't see many big tube sites short of content...

What problem are you solving?

Man, for once I agree with Damian. Was going to write the same stuff.
The tubes ARE the affiliates. They send the traffic to the programs. Where do the 3rd party affiliates play into that equation?