Do meaningful relationships actually exist?
 

Or do people just use eachother until they have sucked all the worth out of them?

Also... does it pay to be a nice guy or are you better off being a prick?


I'm just curious..... What are yout thoughts?

It makes me sad that there are people over the age of 15 who even have to ask. It really does. I wish you luck in somehow finding a life with some meaning to it.

LOL! It was just a curious question. lol Dont be sad for me.. I do find "these" types of relationships to be much more Prevalent today then every before. Thats why I ask.

hmmm....

next month will be my 5 year wedding anniversary.....my wife would have left me a long time ago if i treated her like shit.

:2 cents:

Meaningful relationships are out there, but very limited in number.

Because of all the pressures everyone has to deal with to make money, raise children, etc. you basically have to look at a potential spouse in ways beyond just the love factor. In the old days there was more clarity and structure. Now its a free for all out there.

I wouldn't strive to find a meaningful relationship. Just see whatever comes your way and hopefully some will be good. Most will be use jobs, so just prepare yourself mentally, financially, and emotionally for that to happen and you won't be caught off guard.

There are two factors in a meaningful relationship. The little one is the dynamic between the two people. Without compatibility, and a little luck, it won't happen.

The big one is the character of the two people. No person who doesn't know how to truly be in a relationship can be. No person who can't care honestly for another person can be. Many people are apparently too superficial for that kind of relationship.

Not everyone, though. If you can trust, and you can have compassion, its surprisingly easy. Oddly, it appears to be very rare. That's the part that makes me sad.

Hmmmm Well... I am to old to be caught of guard, but it does amase me that so many only date for just that reason. It also amases me the some will go out of there way to find people to date, just for financial gain. No love, no nothing.. just being the little actress until she gets what shes needs.

Never trust a woman. You will regret it.

That should be put in the Bible.

It never surprises me when a misogynist hasn't had many happy relationships. If you hate women, and don't respect them, what do you expect?

Since the Bible was written by Patriarchs and managed to destroy any the original co-equal status of The Goddess, I believe what you just said is IMPLIED... if not expressly stated. :(

everyone seems to get more materialistic as time progresses, and the standards for relationships change and are based on more shallow means. i've been in 2 serious relationships (one i'm in now) and i make sure that i get to know the fuckin person rather than jumping into an "official" relationship right after i met her.

the primary reasons most relationships fail are because people are basically fucking stupid. if you want a serious relationship, heres a few pointers.

1. use some fucking sense when you meet a person. generally if you meet a person in a bar who happens to be trashed, HMMM, in most cases it would appear that they aren't a great candidate.

2. don't automatically assume the person is GREAT just because of a first impression. (yeah, girls your retarded when it comes to this)

3. don't jump into anything official until you've known the person long enough, which will vary depending on the person themselves, usually atleast 2 months.

4. if you wanna fuck then go ahead, but don't make it the basis of the relationship.

5. trust the person until you have a reason not to. just because you've been fucked over before doesn't mean it'll happen again. (girls generally do this)

6. be HONEST, caring, sweet, thoughtful etc... etc... (basically don't be an asshole)


these are a few of the fundamentals that it'd take to keep a relationship going. and seeing as to how i'm posting this on an awm board, few of you will actually understand or use this, ultimately resulting in more and more v-day's alone. sure, fuckin random people is great but there'll be a point in ur life will you wont be able to get any (without paying) and you'll be left alone. then most of you will probably regret having that "RELATIONSHIPS SUCK!" mentality.

alright thats enough from dr. love.

I am a long haul sorta guy. In the last 10 years, I have been in a relationship that lasted six years, and one that lasted 3 years. What killed them? Take a wild guess.

Dont tell me about respect. How many times you showed someone respect who in turn stabbed you in the back?

And just because you dislike women, does not mean you have to disrepect them. I simply choose to not speak to most of them. Respect is earned, not given.

Respecting women just for the sheer fact that they are women is fucking absurd. But thats why you are goth and live your world in a perpetual depression. Maybe if you grew a sack you wouldnt be goth.

Yes thet do exist.

Eva and I have one.

if the relationship I have with my husband isn't meaningful I don't know what is. The stuff we had to go through to be together and the addtional stuff we have to go through everyday but yet I don't know what I would do with out him. OKay, will go before I need tissues..lol

Sorta like the relationship between you and your models? :Graucho

Do you know me at all asshole? If you did you would not make a fucking accusation like that.

:321GFY

Sad but true :(

Are you saying that Jews dont value women and the Torah says its ok to treat women like shit?

Its a luck thing. The luck of finding a person you are compatible with who you can also trust and respect.

The frusterating thing is its harder these days to find the type of girl youd want to have a long term relationship with. Either they are golddiggers, not trustworthy, or have a really permiscuous past. Theres no way I would marry a girl thats been with a bunch of guys. Thats like buying a new car that already has 50,000 miles on it.

As for the nice guy vs prick success. You have to find a balance. Girls do not want a nice guy that comes off deserate, needy, weak. They want a man. Yes, if you act like a jerk and play a lot of mind games you will get laid more. But any girl that is attracted to guys that mistreat them has an unhealthy personality and is better off being avoided :2 cents:

They do exist, just are pretty rare these days when everyone is superficial.. Plus I don't think it is how things normally are, just a great romantic ideal.

:thumbsup from another bitter fuck

I am but the sum of my experience.

They do exist...but I really wonder what the fuck is going on...

Why ppl insist on teaching kids and shitlings that its all about selfishness and crap...Want a meaningful relationship, try thinking about the OTHER person first...just make sure they fucking deserve it :tongue:

Liars Suck!:feels-hot

Problem is we all lie to ourselves, and to each other, at least on some level.

Obviously you missed the story of Adam and Eve.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Hey... great discussion guys and gals! Other then p00p's lame attempt, it was very good and very insightful.

Thanks for the replies.... Cool!

One of the big things is mobility. In the old days women were at home. Now after women's lib changed it all, and the economic costs just to get by forced so many women into the career market they have lots of options they never had before.

My ex started playing around when she got bored tired of doing the mom thing and shopping and wanted to have a career and got into a corporate position and was traveling all the time. She had flings with the CEO, VP, and many corporate co-workers she traveled with. It was a tough position to be in for me since I wanted to tell her to take a fucking walk, but at the same time we had a young child together and I kept thinking she would get over this midlife crisis and wild phase she was going through.
She also started drinking all the time, which I think fucked her head up even more.

This was my 2nd marriage and the last thing I wanted to do was go through another divorce, especially with a child involved. So I just bit the bullet and figured it was the beginning of the end and I would just let everything run its course. She never fell in love with anyone else just turned into a total nympho. My father was like this also, always had girls on the side but never fell in love with any of them and always stayed in love with my mother.

So that's why I said in my earlier post my opinion of meaningful relationships is they are very rare these days. My ex's lack of respect and consideration for our relationship has tainted my thoughts forever. I can't imagine every trusting a women again and don't even want to try. I'm just assuming from the get go they are all tricky and have an agenda for your money and whatever else they can get out of you. Its a pathetic stance, but this is what you feel when you've been fucked over.

Right now the only thing I trust is my dog. His true blue affection and loyalty are the only thing I know I can count on in this world.

KRL.... I wish I didnt agree with you. Sounds like we had the same ex.

As you... I have my 12 year old golden retreiver that has never once waviered.

The worst part is she just sucked in hubby #3 after going out with him for just 2 months. I feel so sorry for him, cause he got mesmerized by her lusty eyes the way she nabbed me, but don't have the heart to tell him what he just got himself into.

Yep my 12 year old Shepherd is at my feet right now. Fucking dogs are so devoted. Best critters in the whole world.

Well, take a lesson from evolution. If the patriarchs stamped out the Goddess, she didn't offer much survival value, did she? Like Camille Paglia (a real feminist with balls, not a wimpy whiny feminist like most of 'em) said: "If matriarchy had offered survival value, there would matriarchies." I think the only places where there is anything resembling a matriarchy is in tropical islands, where the men just want to go out and fish and so they've delegated running things back home to the ladies.

Meaningful relationships are MADE not FOUND

That must have been one HUGE candy heart you pulling that quote off of. :winkwink:

Dude, you hit the nail on the fucking head.

Well it was valentines yesterday ya know..