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Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 11:05 AM

Is $4999/yr good for 1000mbps x 365 ?
 
Server specs obviously fluctuate the price somewhat,
however $5k a year to have constant access to 1gbps
seems like a good investment to me in this day and age.

What do you think?

fris 10-31-2012 11:21 AM

too good to be true, $416 a month which is the price for about a 100mbps box from a decent host.

Penny24Seven 10-31-2012 11:25 AM

are you sure? What is missing because that sounds very good

pornguy 10-31-2012 11:31 AM

We average 50 to 70 mbps every day here so do your math before you sign up.

fris 10-31-2012 11:41 AM

5k would be a month on that 1gbps and even that is low

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 12:08 PM

$416.58 a month for 1000 mbps based out of the United States of America, yes it is 1gbit unmetered fris. Would you like to resell them?

oscer 10-31-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19285116)
$416.58 a month for 1000 mbps based out of the United States of America, yes it is 1gbit unmetered fris. Would you like to resell them?

That does Seem a little low ... I would check and or test their network out .. Make sure they been in business for more then 2 Years . However i would be skeptical about that myself , Unless they are selling you just the Bandwidth and they are either Overselling it or they are selling it with no profit margin .. which both would be Bad in my eyes cause it would not be sustainable .

Just my Thoughts

VenusBlogger 10-31-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19284980)
Server specs obviously fluctuate the price somewhat,
however $5k a year to have constant access to 1gbps
seems like a good investment to me in this day and age.

What do you think?

Why would you need a 1000mbps PIPE?

What kind of massive sites are you hosting?

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 12:45 PM

oscer - The price is low you are right however the supply factor is the justification.
VenusBlogger - Rtmp, and its tcp equivalents, never mind traffic.

Nicky 10-31-2012 12:48 PM

I'm paying $80 a month for a good dual quad with 24gb ram and 100mps unmetered so I can assume It's doable.

Markul 10-31-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 19285192)
I'm paying $80 a month for a good dual quad with 24gb ram and 100mps unmetered so I can assume It's doable.

Where? If you dont mind sharing

Spudstr 10-31-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 19285069)
5k would be a month on that 1gbps and even that is low

For what? We sell office 1Gbps Metro-e Circuits for 2500-3500 on select markets.

VenusBlogger 10-31-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 19285192)
I'm paying $80 a month for a good dual quad with 24gb ram and 100mps unmetered so I can assume It's doable.

un-managed? is it the Euro host they posted the other day?

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 01:55 PM

It pays to comb webhostingtalk.

borked 10-31-2012 02:10 PM

Don't know about 1Gbs for those prices, but OVH just announced their 2013 server prices, and I swapped out an ailing 4yo server for one of these

with 36GB RAM and 2x120GB SSD and 2x2TB HDD with 200mbs guaranteed premium BW, for less than ?140/mo it's a no brainer.

Available in their new Canadian Beauharnois DC too...

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 02:19 PM

$125/1,000 mbps

borked 10-31-2012 02:50 PM

quality is everything...
On 200mbs with a 1Gbs burst never faltering (neither bandwidth nor server), I'm very happy where I am and this stat graph shows it

http://borkedcoder.com/images/gfy/lo...eth0-month.png

Can your server handle an average of 550 apache requests a second and push non stop 100-200mbs without ever failing???

http://borkedcoder.com/images/gfy/lo...uests_week.png

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 02:51 PM

Quality can be raised with diversity.

AdultEUhost 10-31-2012 03:11 PM

You should ask them for their ASN, if you want us to look into the quality post it here and I will check it for you.

In terms of pricing, I am hardly amazed these days and have seen it all though I would be aware of such low pricing, usually comes at a cost ;)

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 03:45 PM

Just an observation of available upgrades and their prices.

sandman! 10-31-2012 03:47 PM

sure it is :thumbsup

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-31-2012 03:54 PM

Arn #s that was a good one.

Nathan 10-31-2012 05:57 PM

The most important thing is that a "pipe" of whatever size means nothing. The only thing that is important is the amount of actual 95/5 Mbps you push. Based on that and only that you should check the price. The other obviously important part is how many customers do they have that get anywhere near to the possible throughput and how much uplink do they have. Obviously, if they have 100 customers on that setup, it is highly unlikely they have 100gbps uplinks.

oscer 10-31-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19285503)
Arn #s that was a good one.

Its an ASN Number All people who own their own IPS run their own networks and routers have them ... Resellers normally do not

VenusBlogger 10-31-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 19285380)
quality is everything...
On 200mbs with a 1Gbs burst never faltering (neither bandwidth nor server), I'm very happy where I am and this stat graph shows it

http://borkedcoder.com/images/gfy/lo...eth0-month.png


fuck, man... what kind of MASSIVE TUBE do you run?... :warning

Mutt 10-31-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 19285318)
Don't know about 1Gbs for those prices, but OVH just announced their 2013 server prices, and I swapped out an ailing 4yo server for one of these

with 36GB RAM and 2x120GB SSD and 2x2TB HDD with 200mbs guaranteed premium BW, for less than ?140/mo it's a no brainer.

Available in their new Canadian Beauharnois DC too...

managed or unmanaged?

Press Release Pro 10-31-2012 06:27 PM

Look at the max utilization of their network
The load on the switch will make a difference
It's easy to sell it dirt cheap if you sell it multiple times

AdultEUhost 10-31-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Press Release Pro (Post 19285730)
Look at the max utilization of their network
The load on the switch will make a difference
It's easy to sell it dirt cheap if you sell it multiple times

Lol, I am pretty sure they ain't gonna show you that

freecartoonporn 10-31-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 19285192)
I'm paying $80 a month for a good dual quad with 24gb ram and 100mps unmetered so I can assume It's doable.

where it is give me ref link.,

thanks

borked 11-01-2012 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19285715)
fuck, man... what kind of MASSIVE TUBE do you run?... :warning

bit of this, bit of that - I have my fingers in many pies :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19285721)
managed or unmanaged?

unmanaged of course - if you require managed, see sig :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Press Release Pro (Post 19285730)
Look at the max utilization of their network
The load on the switch will make a difference
It's easy to sell it dirt cheap if you sell it multiple times

Exactly - and not a single host (that I know of) can beat OVH for upfront honesty and clarity in that department. Who else gives you live data on the load and traffic of their entire infrastructure? If you're a geek and love this kind of thing, have a look at http://weathermap.ovh.net/
I'd say get in on their BHS Canadian DC - massively under used at the moment :pimp

borked 11-01-2012 12:21 AM

Just to add, if you require an admin for managed services, then a single box at OVH will probably not be financially beneficial. But if you require an infrastructure or a number of boxes, then it very much becomes a viable option.

I don't know how others do it, but I charge much less for a cluster of servers to manage than the sum of the cost of managing the individual servers - which is normal since managing 10 boxes for 10 clients is much much more work than managing 10 boxes for a single client.

One really cool setup that is incredibly resistant for high traffic sites is a nice frontend box with nice RAM/NIC/SSD drives that serves as database server and load balancer (running nginx) to X number of backends which are lower grade and lower cost web servers (that can also replicate the db server if needs be).
Throw in a beast of a storage server and you have a kick ass infrastructure that can redundantly handle many hundreds of connections per second and push 100s mbs for less than a grand a month.

Bjorn 11-01-2012 01:37 AM

sounds too good to be true

NewNick 11-01-2012 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 19286083)
sounds too good to be true


Its not.

:2 cents:

NewNick 11-01-2012 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19285715)
fuck, man... what kind of MASSIVE TUBE do you run?... :warning


You think that's a big tube ?

You need to get out more.

:thumbsup

borked 11-01-2012 03:45 AM

it's not even a tube! if you follow the two graphs, peak at around 200mbs corresponds to ~800 requests a second. 800req/sec on a tube would be pushing multiple Gbs bandwidth I'm guessing...

mikke 11-01-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19285233)
Where? If you dont mind sharing

leaseweb

freecartoonporn 11-01-2012 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikke (Post 19286343)
leaseweb

he said 24 gigs., and they dont have any server supporting 24gig ram for under 150/200 bucks

scarlettcontent 11-01-2012 07:29 AM

http://www.uk2.net/dedicated-servers/

fris 11-01-2012 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 19286418)

uk2group will suspend your hosting if you get 1 dmca takedown.

Brad Mitchell 11-01-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 19286437)
uk2group will suspend your hosting if you get 1 dmca takedown.

If only porn was legal to be hosted in the UK, it would be a viable option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19285290)
It pays to comb webhostingtalk.

While there are certainly many good hosting companies represented on WHT, most of what is there is oversold, resellers and child-like adults running a business from their basement. Prepaying a year in advance for any plan is risky business unless you have a history of successful business with the vendor or significant credibility check from its established customers. Notice the quantity of hosting sites with designs from template monster. and no actual photos or real company information.

Unless that $5000 plan is being sold by a company with other profitable accounts and annual revenue above 5-10 million, I would steer clear. The numbers are the numbers, can't have 1000 megabit of usage every month for 12 months even on a 50+ gigabit commit from one of the largest carriers.. let alone space, power, multihomed bandwidth, a server and support.

My advice, buy what you need not what you think you need - from a reputable company in adult.

Brad

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-01-2012 04:47 PM

It quantifies your requirements anyway and beyond.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-01-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 19285017)
too good to be true, $416 a month which is the price for about a 100mbps box from a decent host.

To the power of 10 :)

Brad Mitchell 11-01-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19289756)
It is, it's your American metro area datacenters that are tapped into these very close, very large cables, Brad.
They are charging 100-200$ for 1000 mbps now, retail.

It's not a shock if this is centralized, monopolistic, organized, and orderly.
It quantifies your requirements anyway and beyond.

I don't know who you are.. its carriers that sell bandwidth, not datacenters. Bring me any one carrier that will sell me 50,000 or 100,000 megabit @ .20 and I'll take it. I'll donate $5000 to the charity of your choice, too. You can't, but I welcome you to try. MojoHost is located in one of the 5 true NAPs in North America, should be easy for you since there are 160 carriers there. If you cannot find something in North America, I will take delivery anywhere in Amsterdam.

Cheers,

Brad

fris 11-01-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 19286640)
If only porn was legal to be hosted in the UK, it would be a viable option.



While there are certainly many good hosting companies represented on WHT, most of what is there is oversold, resellers and child-like adults running a business from their basement. Prepaying a year in advance for any plan is risky business unless you have a history of successful business with the vendor or significant credibility check from its established customers. Notice the quantity of hosting sites with designs from template monster. and no actual photos or real company information.

Unless that $5000 plan is being sold by a company with other profitable accounts and annual revenue above 5-10 million, I would steer clear. The numbers are the numbers, can't have 1000 megabit of usage every month for 12 months even on a 50+ gigabit commit from one of the largest carriers.. let alone space, power, multihomed bandwidth, a server and support.

My advice, buy what you need not what you think you need - from a reputable company in adult.

Brad

im speaking on uk2group as a whole, meaning westhost,midphase,100tb,vps.net, all of their properties.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-01-2012 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 19289764)
I don't know who you are.. its carriers that sell bandwidth, not datacenters. Bring me any one carrier that will sell me 50,000 or 100,000 megabit @ .20 and I'll take it. I'll donate $5000 to the charity of your choice, too. You can't, but I welcome you to try. MojoHost is located in one of the 5 true NAPs in North America, should be easy for you since there are 160 carriers there. If you cannot find something in North America, I will take delivery anywhere in Amsterdam.

Cheers,

Brad

How do you take delivery Brad?

Brad Mitchell 11-02-2012 07:40 AM

Multiple 10G links, of course.

Brad

oscer 11-02-2012 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 19286640)
If only porn was legal to be hosted in the UK, it would be a viable option.



While there are certainly many good hosting companies represented on WHT, most of what is there is oversold, resellers and child-like adults running a business from their basement. Prepaying a year in advance for any plan is risky business unless you have a history of successful business with the vendor or significant credibility check from its established customers. Notice the quantity of hosting sites with designs from template monster. and no actual photos or real company information.

Unless that $5000 plan is being sold by a company with other profitable accounts and annual revenue above 5-10 million, I would steer clear. The numbers are the numbers, can't have 1000 megabit of usage every month for 12 months even on a 50+ gigabit commit from one of the largest carriers.. let alone space, power, multihomed bandwidth, a server and support.

My advice, buy what you need not what you think you need - from a reputable company in adult.

Brad


Thank you Brad ...

Well Put !

Brad Mitchell 11-07-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19290056)
How do you take delivery Brad?

I'm still waiting for that phone call or email.

Brad

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-07-2012 09:22 PM

I sent Kent, Brad.

Brad Mitchell 11-07-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monotony (Post 19301500)
I sent Kent, Brad.

I have not received email or voicemail from any such person.

Brad


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