I hate war, i hate violence, i hate guns
 

I will never understand how people can kill each other.
Yes i do understand that sometimes people get into a situation where you have to protect your own life or the life of people close to you. And even in a situation like that i think you should only use deadly force if there is really no other option.
Other than that there is no excuse to kill people or hurt someone. None.

Death penalty shouldn't exist. Killing someone who killed someone. How much of a better person are you then?

And anyone who disagrees with me can lick my starfish! Which is very clean btw because i'm a clean person. Maybe we can make an arrangement if you really want to.

PIRIOD!

That is a FUCKING cool story, bro!

FUcking cool story

"you may not want war, but war wants you"

I agree with you. Only in self defense should death be an option.

However, I do believe that sometimes people just need a good old fashioned ass whoopin'.

No fucking way. A Franck post I agree with 100%. :1orglaugh :thumbsup

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You're not a "conspiracy theorist", you're a fucking nut job and compulsive liar living in a complete fantasy world. You hide behind such rhetoric to deflect attention away from who and what you are. Just because the government lied about the Gulf of Tonkin or whatever the fuck, doesn't make you a sane person.

go get soe more drugs

Hey, brainwashed sheep of another kind... you do know that there are a handful of countries who do not tax their citizens at all, right? Not every country in the world is a "tax farm" and most countries do not tax their citizens anymore of they move out of that "tax farm" and live abroad.

Get your head out of you ass. YOU live in a tax farm and all you do is cry about it. There are solutions. Problem is, your head is buried so far up your lizard ass and you're brainwashed by the other side of the media that you can't see them. You could live your life 100% tax free if you wanted to. Or, you could cry about it forever. Your call. But I think we all know what you will choose to do, which is too bad. Usually the ones who make the most noise are afraid to leave anyway, finding every excuse possible to tell everyone why they can't.

Much better - he's being killed because he took it upon himself to kill another human being, it's justice, you may not think so but plenty do. the human being he killed did nothing to warrant having their lives ended. I know from your posts here that you don't believe in God so what's so special about a murderer that you want his life spared?

And all of that affects your life how?

Excuses. You're full of them.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh thats a good one

You look at your surroundings and tell it how you perceive it, which may be true or it may not be true. But if you looked at the world and told it how it was, you would be singing a different tune.

A lot of what you say is accurate. But you need to get out with some real world experience, and I don't mean two weeks in Mexico or France, to balance your thoughts. Go spend the next 5 - 10 years of your life living overseas in various countries and then come back and tell us how you see it. You will see the world completely different, I guarantee it.

I have a gun. A pistol grip 12 gauge Mossberg 500 Cruiser with a distracting 220 lumens strobe light at the end of it.

Want to know why?

Because the dirtbags who are doing home invasions in LA carry guns. Gang bangers with no care for human life. We have something called the 2nd Amendment here. It entitles me bear arms, which in a home defense scenario translates to protecting myself and my family. Notice how I didn't say property, because for that you call the cops once they leave.

I'm trained, professionally, as a police officer and by the military to handle it.

I live in an affluent neighborhood, in a nice house. Those homes are now being targeted by LA Gangs. I can assure you that if my home gets "Flocked", as they call it here in the Los Angeles area, the last thing some shit bag coming up the stairs with whatever he's carrying is going to hear is the rack of that shotgun and blinding light in his face.

Should that not deter him enough and he presents a clear and present danger to my family, and the use of deadly force is authorized to stop him/her, I will not hesitate for a second to send him home to whatever God he prays to in situations like that.

So, if you can answer a question, and it makes sense and doesn't get me killed, I will get rid of my gun.

What would you do if your home was invaded by gun wielding gang bangers, your wife is asleep, you see them coming with their arms up your stairs, and there is no where to escape to? What do you do in the next 2-5 seconds to save your life?

Hypothetical question.

Thanks.

That is the best reason to have a firearm. :2 cents: Better to have one and know how to use it, than get killed in the event your home is chosen on any given day or night.

Typical conversation with Johnny.

Me: it looks like it's going to rain today
Johnny: the US government controls the rain, I can't believe you think that
Me: why do you think the government controls the rain?
Johnny: it's not right going to wars in other countries!
Me: what do wars have to do with the US government controlling the rain?
Johnny: people are such sheep, Charles Manson did nothing wrong

Yes, if it wasn't for the need for home defense, I would not have any guns.

The main problems with guns are people. People who don't know how to handle them.

I know the scenario when to pull the trigger and when not to. Many do not.

I wish I did not need a gun. Unfortunately, for a very few scenarios I do.

If it comes to me dying, or some scumbag who want's to kill me, rape my lady, kill my pets, and loot my house at 230 in the morning, sadly it's him leaving my house in a bag, and not me or my family.

At least I've got a shot by meeting a force with and equal one.

:2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Spot on.

Another deflection. I didn't say that. Didn't say anything close to that. Why not tell us more details about your MIT education so we can catch you in more blatant lies?

You need to be on your medication and in therapy, not hanging out on forums talking about having alien lizards for parents.

:2 cents:

I don't believe in the death penalty. I used to - kill someone, and we kill you back. Simple. But then I figured out that these fuckers sit on death row for twenty years with all of the perks. Not good enough.

Toss them into a cell, throw away the key, give them a slice of bread and a cup of water each day. That's it. No sun light, no doctors, no showers.

war > ass > violence > fuck! fuck you pro war assholes! :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I read that thread

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I love all those things so bend over ;)

I'm gonna have to call you out on this one.

I bet you don't even care about the topic at hand but needed something to advertise how you want someone to lick your clean starfish. It's ok though, I won't tell anyone else.

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ADG

Also, I know you say in a defense scenario it's OK, my post is mostly for people who will read this who are anti gun 100%.

Let me ask you this though. If you had an 8 year old daughter, and she was kidnapped, held for a period of time, say 5 months, tortured by her assailant, raped repeatedly, starved, basically 5 months of the worst situation you can think of, then murdered and dismembered by the kidnapper, you would not support a capital conviction, and go watch him die?

I'm pretty anti death penalty but in that scenario I would probably take some satisfaction in watching that sick prick sizzle in the chair.

California does lethal injection though, so no sizzle.

Haha.

What can I say? I hate violence and guns too. I'm having a hard time trying to understand why humanity is always trying to solve problems through violence. :\

You have never in your life had a reason to wish death upon another? You have missed living, or it saved you from knowing what you may be capable of feeling.
either way, congrats to the winners

I don't think you should treat your starfish so poorly - just leave it in the tank and in vest in a hydrometer so you can accurately measure the salinity levels.

I used to be ok with the death penalty until that Ohio Governor commuted everyone's sentence on his way out of office and made his arguments for it which I thought were great points. Principally however, i'm am ok with the idea of killing someone that raped and murdered a little girl or killed a bunch of people.

I agree with you almost 100%... BUT... I can think of examples of people who are just TOO fucked up... they did horrible things and are so on a different level (read... fucking evil / crazy) that they will NEVER rehabilitate, or even think a little bit like "us" (us = people with good intentions who do not want to do harm).

Psychopathy can not be "cured" by therapy...that is IMPOSSIBLE. Their brain just works differently. That is a fact... Some psychopaths (and there are a lot among us, but I want to refer to the "bad ones") who have done horrible violent stuff will keep thinking about doing that...and sometimes do horrible stuff again and again the first chance they get...They are predators... with uncontrollable urges... good luck fixing that

:2 cents:those people...are hopeless... and although I do not approve of violence... death might be a good solution for all parties... I am not promoting it... I just do not exclude the option in some cases, reality is a bitch....

Other than that... I hate violence, war, racism etc etc

Try to do the right thing...try to do good... and feel good about it... good things might come your way too

I think you are just tossing out your ill-considered opinons hoping you can find someone to lick your asshole.

:2 cents:

Agreed :thumbsup

You have quite a nice strategy.Buy you know what war sometimes can bring peace.As the killing of Gadaffi in Libya.This free the Libyan people from death.

Not sure if that's being sarcastic?
All that's done is allow different people to do the killing.

How can you hate something you have never tried?

PsyHead hippie here, agreed with Franck :pimp

who.....

Always debatable but I also am against violence.

you might think so but i doubt it would do anything to stop the pain. society created most of its monsters. the monsters didn't just create themselves.

not always true... society can create monsters yes..

some in a lot of cases potential monsters are just being born... maybe some abuse from their parent helps as little to transform to pure evil... but society has nothing to do with that.

If johnny clips would just enjoy some violence he may not be his roomates bitch

I don't think anyone here, who is sane, would disagree with owning a weapon or multiples in such a scenario.

However, I think a more important question would be why would you live in such a place where this would be necessary? Shit man, i live across from detroit and I know it's not THAT bad over there for the most part, where the hell are you living? Hell? I'm sure it's a beautiful place but I'm talking safety here. I'm a bad ass too but I'm not going to camp out in a tiger cage ;)

Death is an end to suffering.

That's why some people are against the death penalty. Because they want maximum possible suffering.

He has a sweet job so my guess is that he's in a pretty nice area. But nice areas are where shit like that is starting to happen both in LA and here in NYC. Places where the 'haves' and 'have nots' must co-exist closely with one another. It's the economy.

he lives in a state of fear.

Shit happens everywhere. Doesn't matter if you're in rural Idaho or down town LA, violent crime happens. Some places just have more of it than others. Having a firearm to protect your family, regardless of where you live, is perfectly normal.

Every person on the face of the earth who has ever been mugged, robbed, burglarized, or attacked in any way, all thought it would never happen to them. And what is the one thing every single one of them has in common? They were all wrong.

The divide between haves and have nots is only going to increase, and probably at a rapid pace.

I agree. Lol. I don't go near those bad neighborhoods.

I live in one of the most affluent communities in California. The gang bangers are now traveling out of their neighborhoods and targeting more wealthy neighborhoods. I am not wealthy, but I live in a wealthy neighborhood.

This new gangbanger thing is called "Flocking". They basically get together and go to rich neighborhoods, four or five of them will arm up and do the home invasion thing. The economy here is awful, and they are now preying on distance locales that have more money than their neighborhoods.

Also related, the crime statistics show that gas station and convenience store robberies are elevated again. The economy is squeezing them all back to violent and street crimes.