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halfpint 10-16-2012 12:04 PM

The British guy who hacked into the Pentagon wont be extradited
 
The mother of British computer hacker Gary McKinnon has welcomed Home Secretary Theresa May's decision to block his extradition to the US.

And they are now going to do this for any country who wants to extradite a British Citizen

Measures would be taken to enable a UK court to decide whether a person should stand trial in the UK or abroad - a so-called forum bar.

good or bad ?

HushMoney 10-16-2012 12:07 PM

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Harmon 10-16-2012 12:07 PM

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Scott McD 10-16-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19255752)

You clicked... :upsidedow

DamageX 10-16-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19255748)
good or bad ?

Would the US extradite a US citizen? Right.

Klen 10-16-2012 12:29 PM

A silly question:if they requested extradition of some random hacker,how come they didn't requested same with Julian Assange case?

wehateporn 10-16-2012 12:32 PM

He was after 9/11 info, but the media doesn't normally mention that bit.

2012 10-16-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19255752)

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TheSquealer 10-16-2012 12:53 PM

Good or bad, right or wrong, the reasoning was absolutely retarded. Basically saying if he's extradited and tried, he might kill himself. Boo fucking hoo. Get arrested, go to jail and you might be unhappy.

halfpint 10-16-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19255848)
Good or bad, right or wrong, the reasoning was absolutely retarded. Basically saying if he's extradited and tried, he might kill himself. Boo fucking hoo. Get arrested, go to jail and you might be unhappy.

And the forum bar thingy which she has put in place for other countrys who try to extradite people from the UK

I bet Juliian Assange is jumping up and down with joy over that

Rochard 10-16-2012 01:08 PM

You know the CIA and MI5/MI6 is at work here. Clearly the two governments sat him down, got him working for the inteligence agencies, and they will quietly drop charges.

rogueteens 10-16-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19255848)
Good or bad, right or wrong, the reasoning was absolutely retarded. Basically saying if he's extradited and tried, he might kill himself. Boo fucking hoo. Get arrested, go to jail and you might be unhappy.

you are missing the point, it is a major issue here and a major news story. its been seen as the US stomping around, demanding everything done their way and there is a lot of opposition to that in the UK.

halfpint 10-16-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19255877)
You know the CIA and MI5/MI6 is at work here. Clearly the two governments sat him down, got him working for the inteligence agencies, and they will quietly drop charges.

Nope plus he was not allowed access to the interwebs and this

Mr McNabb said he suspected it would ask Interpol to issue a red notice - making other nations aware there was an outstanding arrest warrant for Mr McKinnon in the US - which would mean he could be arrested if he left the UK.

scottybuzz 10-16-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19255877)
You know the CIA and MI5/MI6 is at work here. Clearly the two governments sat him down, got him working for the inteligence agencies, and they will quietly drop charges.

not really. this case is about 10 years old.

ottopottomouse 10-16-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19255877)
You know the CIA and MI5/MI6 is at work here. Clearly the two governments sat him down, got him working for the inteligence agencies, and they will quietly drop charges.

That's what they should have done at the start. He'd be far more useful as a security checker than sewing mailbags.

HushMoney 10-16-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19255752)

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19255813)

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Barry-xlovecam 10-16-2012 02:15 PM

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And they are now going to do this for any country who wants to extradite a British Citizen
So, the UK will abrogate all extradition treaties? Tit-for-tat -- bad move in the long run.

Black All Through 10-16-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 19255766)
You clicked... :upsidedow

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sperbonzo 10-16-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19255884)
you are missing the point, it is a major issue here and a major news story. its been seen as the US stomping around, demanding everything done their way and there is a lot of opposition to that in the UK.

So then why is the UK not extraditing a murderer to South Africa....?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1723531.html

A businessman wanted in South Africa for the honeymoon murder of his wife needs 12 months to recover from depression and post-traumatic stress disorder before being able to deal with the extradition process, a court has heard.

Shrien Dewani, 32, who is accused of arranging the contract killing of his wife Anni in Cape Town in November 2010, is under medical treatment after being sectioned and deemed a suicide risk.

Dewani needs "time to recover" before being extradited, his legal team says

After many previous hearings, the case returned to Westminster Magistrates' Court on Tuesday.

Dewani's barrister, Clare Montgomery QC, said the process had been hanging over her client like "the sword of Damocles" and he needed "a period of calm".

Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle adjourned the hearing to September 18 for a psychiatrist employed by the South African government to examine Dewani and furnish the court with more information about his condition before making any other decision.

Dewani has previously pledged to clear his name.

Miss Montgomery said keeping Dewani under medical treatment in Britain for 12 months would increase the speed of her client's recovery rather then jeopardising it by sending him to South Africa.

She said that, according to his psychiatrist, Dewani was making a slow recovery but one damaging factor was his "constant awareness of the court proceedings".







Sound familiar?




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halfpint 10-16-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19255979)
So, the UK will abrogate all extradition treaties? Tit-for-tat

Yep thats about right

halfpint 10-16-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19256009)
So then why is the UK not extraditing a murderer to South Africa....?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1723531.html

A businessman wanted in South Africa for the honeymoon murder of his wife needs 12 months to recover from depression and post-traumatic stress disorder before being able to deal with the extradition process, a court has heard.

Shrien Dewani, 32, who is accused of arranging the contract killing of his wife Anni in Cape Town in November 2010, is under medical treatment after being sectioned and deemed a suicide risk.

Dewani needs "time to recover" before being extradited, his legal team says

After many previous hearings, the case returned to Westminster Magistrates' Court on Tuesday.

Dewani's barrister, Clare Montgomery QC, said the process had been hanging over her client like "the sword of Damocles" and he needed "a period of calm".

Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle adjourned the hearing to September 18 for a psychiatrist employed by the South African government to examine Dewani and furnish the court with more information about his condition before making any other decision.

Dewani has previously pledged to clear his name.

Miss Montgomery said keeping Dewani under medical treatment in Britain for 12 months would increase the speed of her client's recovery rather then jeopardising it by sending him to South Africa.

She said that, according to his psychiatrist, Dewani was making a slow recovery but one damaging factor was his "constant awareness of the court proceedings".







Sound familiar?




.:2 cents:

He will play the same card now and wont get extradited as will a lot of others, and with the forum bar in place, it will make it a lot harder for countries to extradite people from the UK

sperbonzo 10-16-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19256024)
He will play the same card now and wont get extradited as will a lot of others, and with the forum bar in place, it will make it a lot harder for countries to extradite people from the UK

Yeah, my wife is from South Africa, and we spend about a month out of the year there. People there are SUPER pissed about the UK not sending this monster back to SA for trial.



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halfpint 10-16-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19256037)
Yeah, my wife is from South Africa, and we spend about a month out of the year there. People there are SUPER pissed about the UK not sending this monster back to SA for trial.



.:2 cents:

cool what part of SA is your wife from

I lived over there for 17 years from the age of 2 Its an awesome country, just way to much violence which is why we went back to the UK

sperbonzo 10-16-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19256054)
cool what part of SA is your wife from

I lived over there for 17 years from the age of 2 Its an awesome country, just way to much violence which is why we went back to the UK


Durban is where they are from. She is Indian (massive population of indians in Natal), and ironically, I actually also lived in South Africa, (in Jo'burg), from when I was 10 until I was 14.


And yes, the violence and crime is absolutely out of control there. Damn shame.




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rogueteens 10-16-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19256009)
So then why is the UK not extraditing a murderer to South Africa....?
Sound familiar?

I agree with you, he should go. the British justice system is a fucked up politically correct mess when it comes to extradition, ol hook hand wanker is a classic case in point, the cunt should have gone right away and so should this man but Gary McKinnon is a different case, he is a figurehead on the British opinion on how Americans can dictate and say their laws take precedence over ours and especially the one-sidedness of the extradition treaty we have with the Americans. If the US had handled it differently then Gary may well have gone without any fuss but it was the usual heavy-handed ?do as we say? approach.

halfpint 10-16-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19256062)
Durban is where they are from. She is Indian (massive population of indians in Natal), and ironically, I actually also lived in South Africa, (in Jo'burg), from when I was 10 until I was 14.


And yes, the violence and crime is absolutely out of control there. Damn shame.




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Durban used to be a nice place, when we lived over there, dont know how much it has changed now, We lived in a place called Florida just on the outskirts of Joburg.

Yep its a real shame about all the violence. I saw some real nasty shit when we lived out there.

Dam I miss the good old SA braais lol, but we get a lot of boerewors, biltong, driedwors ect over here now, but dont have many braais cause our weather is so crap

Bat_Man 10-16-2012 03:37 PM

This is sure that this guy is damn meritorious..It would be mislaying to extradite him.It should be used.I hence admire this decision.

helterskelter808 10-16-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19256074)
I agree with you, he should go. the British justice system is a fucked up politically correct mess when it comes to extradition, ol hook hand wanker is a classic case in point, the cunt should have gone right away and so should this man but Gary McKinnon is a different case, he is a figurehead on the British opinion on how Americans can dictate and say their laws take precedence over ours

Care to explain why, in legal terms, Abu Hamza and the other men extradited last week are different to McKinnon?

rogueteens 10-16-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19256239)
Care to explain why, in legal terms, Abu Hamza and the other men extradited last week are different to McKinnon?

McKinnon commited his crime on British soil, he may have hacked American computers but he never left the UK, America are saying that a law they made that they want to extend around the world is valid in the UK, which it isnt, he should and proberbly will be tried under British law. Abu Cunt commited crimes in various countries and Shrien was is South Africa when his incident took place. Thats why the cases are different.

AllAboutCams 10-16-2012 06:21 PM

next time they will send him a free trip to the usa

helterskelter808 10-16-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19256307)
McKinnon commited his crime on British soil, he may have hacked American computers but he never left the UK, America are saying that a law they made that they want to extend around the world is valid in the UK, which it isnt, he should and proberbly will be tried under British law. Abu Cunt commited crimes in various countries and Shrien was is South Africa when his incident took place. Thats why the cases are different.

If Hamza is accused of committing crimes in various countries, why was he sent here? Oh, I see, we can't extend laws to McKinnon, but we can to Muslims you don't like? I'm fairly sure the UK is quite capable of trying him, if there is any evidence against him. Likewise the other four people you sent to the US last week, one of whom was British and has asperger's, like McKinnon.

Face it, you sent Hamza and the other four because you are racist Islamophobes, and you prevented McKinnon because he's not Muslim and he's white. Do you think if an Arab did what McKinnon did he wouldn't be sitting in Guantanamo right now?

rogueteens 10-17-2012 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19256642)
If Hamza is accused of committing crimes in various countries, why was he sent here? Oh, I see, we can't extend laws to McKinnon, but we can to Muslims you don't like? I'm fairly sure the UK is quite capable of trying him, if there is any evidence against him. Likewise the other four people you sent to the US last week, one of whom was British and has asperger's, like McKinnon.

Face it, you sent Hamza and the other four because you are racist Islamophobes, and you prevented McKinnon because he's not Muslim and he's white. Do you think if an Arab did what McKinnon did he wouldn't be sitting in Guantanamo right now?

I think that says more about your racism than anyone elses.

MetaMan 10-17-2012 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19256642)
If Hamza is accused of committing crimes in various countries, why was he sent here? Oh, I see, we can't extend laws to McKinnon, but we can to Muslims you don't like? I'm fairly sure the UK is quite capable of trying him, if there is any evidence against him. Likewise the other four people you sent to the US last week, one of whom was British and has asperger's, like McKinnon.

Face it, you sent Hamza and the other four because you are racist Islamophobes, and you prevented McKinnon because he's not Muslim and he's white. Do you think if an Arab did what McKinnon did he wouldn't be sitting in Guantanamo right now?

:1orglaugh

holy fuck what an idiot.

mychemicalromance 10-17-2012 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19255748)
The mother of British computer hacker Gary McKinnon has welcomed Home Secretary Theresa May's decision to block his extradition to the US.

And they are now going to do this for any country who wants to extradite a British Citizen

Measures would be taken to enable a UK court to decide whether a person should stand trial in the UK or abroad - a so-called forum bar.

good or bad ?

who cares why do you care you are a porn punter. don't worry about these things they will take care of it. geez

seeandsee 10-17-2012 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19255810)
He was after 9/11 info, but the media doesn't normally mention that bit.

Oh that is the case, so did he find something?:pimp

helterskelter808 10-17-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19257022)
I think that says more about your racism than anyone elses.

If a British Muslim hacked the Pentagon, would he be extradited or not? Would your Prime Minister be standing up for him? We both know the answer to that one.

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 19257035)
holy fuck what an idiot.

Care to explain what you think what was idiotic about it then?

Of course not. You will simply shut the fuck up and know your place. :1orglaugh

mychemicalromance 10-17-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19257719)
If a British Muslim hacked the Pentagon, would he be extradited or not? Would your Prime Minister be standing up for him? We both know the answer to that one.



Care to explain what you think what was idiotic about it then?

Of course not. You will simply shut the fuck up and know your place. :1orglaugh

^ you got no game in the adult industry, rants about politics and expects people to take him seriously :1orglaugh

helterskelter808 10-17-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemicalromance (Post 19258716)
^ you got no game in the adult industry, rants about politics and expects people to take him seriously :1orglaugh

Promises to get people banned and fails miserably. :1orglaugh

mychemicalromance 10-17-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19258798)
Promises to get people banned and fails miserably. :1orglaugh

still doesn't change the fact you are just a lurker with no business

helterskelter808 10-17-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemicalromance (Post 19258805)
still doesn't change the fact you are just a lurker with no business

Yawn. You're worse at trolling than you are at getting people banned. :Oh crap

_Richard_ 10-17-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19255752)

and that would stop you from thinking about what sort of restrictions a country has to have for not extraditing an individual who just hacked an allys military headquarters

and ask oneself why oneselfs country would be included in those restrictions..

gimme-website 10-17-2012 09:57 PM

Using remote desktop doesn't make you a hacker. And that's all he pretty much did...

Bat_Man 10-17-2012 11:04 PM

US may look for a trial itself but This guy is damn meritorious.He should be used in positive manner not be extradited.


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