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shimmy2 10-13-2012 07:57 AM

Cost of outsourcing grunt webmaster labor to phillipines? (ie: posting/promo/tubes/etc)
 
ok so I'm busy filming more than ever now and dont have the time to devote to manual tasks like posting trailers all over tubes etc just curious how much in PI are these types of gigs going for? not looking for someone to blog for me, just to take my existing promo tools and blast em out there everywhere semi regularly

shimmy2 10-13-2012 08:00 AM

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Sly 10-13-2012 08:02 AM

In my experience, 90% of the time, Filipinos are more trouble than any savings you could possibly get. You have to go through a lot of them to find a good one. And then you have to train them. And then you have to wonder whether or not they are actually doing the work the way you train them. And then you have to wonder how many times their maternal grandmother is going to die within the next six months. My guess is five.

amateurcanada 10-13-2012 08:11 AM

You might try local, of age students etc. they can be easily trained and you do not need to make the time commitments to someone offshore. Just an idea. You can even reword things as apprenticeship opportunities and pay him bonuses only.

BareBacked 10-13-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 19248883)
ok so I'm busy filming more than ever now and dont have the time to devote to manual tasks like posting trailers all over tubes etc just curious how much in PI are these types of gigs going for? not looking for someone to blog for me, just to take my existing promo tools and blast em out there everywhere semi regularly


It will cost you a min $3000 to set it up right

Dirty F 10-13-2012 08:20 AM

You can find good ones who will work hard for 1 to 3 dollars per hour.

DamageX 10-13-2012 08:32 AM

Cost = whatever you pay them + time to redo all their work + income lost during that period.

Same with Indians.

Just find some college kids on craigslist, they do a lot better work and quite often charge very little. Not to mention some will probably do it for free too, just for the perk of working with porn. :1orglaugh

AllAboutCams 10-13-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19248943)
Cost = whatever you pay them + time to redo all their work + income lost during that period.

Same with Indians.

Just find some college kids on craigslist, they do a lot better work and quite often charge very little. Not to mention some will probably do it for free too, just for the perk of working with porn. :1orglaugh

Good advice i have found the same
indian/paki/filipino are way too much trouble they very rarely complete the work on time if at all.

woj 10-13-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19248943)
Cost = whatever you pay them + time to redo all their work + income lost during that period.

very true, you get what you pay for :2 cents:

shimmy2 10-13-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by amateurcanada (Post 19248907)
You might try local, of age students etc. they can be easily trained

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yeah that will go over real well here in the DR

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Profits of Doom 10-13-2012 09:15 AM

I have an incredible full-time Filipino virtual assistant for my mainstream sites that I hired through http://www.virtualstafffinder.com/. You're going to have to pay them $400 to find you good candidates that you give the final interviews to and pick from, but it's well worth it as the candidates they give you actually have experience in what you ask for, be it content creation, design, etc. The only problem with this company is I don't know if they place for adult, so you would have to ask them.

But if you are just looking for really simple grunt work like tube uploads you should have no problem finding that from sites like Freelancer, Odesk (which I think doesn't allow adult jobs but you can work around that), Digital Point, etc.

DamageX 10-13-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19249015)
But if you are just looking for really simple grunt work like tube uploads you should have no problem finding that from sites like Freelancer, Odesk (which I think doesn't allow adult jobs but you can work around that), Digital Point, etc.

Those places are full of Indians, Pakis and Filipinos too. If you can, try getting someone from Eastern Europe instead. They charge about the same, but they actually do good work and, surprisingly, they actually understand English quite well.

Bossman 10-13-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19249015)
I have an incredible full-time Filipino virtual assistant for my mainstream sites that I hired through http://www.virtualstafffinder.com/. You're going to have to pay them $400 to find you good candidates that you give the final interviews to and pick from, but it's well worth it as the candidates they give you actually have experience in what you ask for, be it content creation, design, etc.

Looks intresting, how much is the per month cost for a an incredible full-time Filipino virtual assistant ? :)

Profits of Doom 10-13-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 19249033)
Looks intresting, how much is the per month cost for a an incredible full-time Filipino virtual assistant ? :)

I pay the girl I have $400 a month. She started out at $350 a month, as I was just having her do basic but tedious work like managing all my niche blogs, basic link building, sorting and posting content, etc. When I found out she was also a decent writer I gave her $50 a month more, and I will be giving her another raise shortly as she has picked up really quickly on software like The Best Spinner and Long Tail Pro. Keep in mind though I have no idea if Virtual Staff Finder places VA's for adult, and I don't use her for any adult work.

Django 10-13-2012 10:06 AM

rent an indian

Best-In-BC 10-13-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19248943)
Just find some college kids on craigslist, they do a lot better work and quite often charge very little. Not to mention some will probably do it for free too, just for the perk of working with porn. :1orglaugh

There is also a plus that if he is working out that he is probley a local and you could actually meet up and work smarter and ect.

DamageX 10-13-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 19249113)
There is also a plus that if he is working out that he is probley a local and you could actually meet up and work smarter and ect.

Absolutely. And you could always put up some wanted ads on the local college boards.

DWB 10-13-2012 11:30 AM

Very few people have outsourcing success stories. You usually get what you pay for. All the best ones already have jobs. What you will probably end up with is a total fuck up who has been let go from lots of other companies.

Bossman 10-13-2012 11:31 AM

Profits of Doom, Thanks for answering - and good luck with your business :thumbsup

icymelon 10-13-2012 11:34 AM

usually the internet is slow over there. My first thought is that tube video posting or transferring large files is going to end up not being cost effective. They are all very slow best I hope for is performing quality work at half normal person speed or productivity.

beks001 10-13-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19248891)
In my experience, 90% of the time, Filipinos are more trouble than any savings you could possibly get. You have to go through a lot of them to find a good one. And then you have to train them. And then you have to wonder whether or not they are actually doing the work the way you train them. And then you have to wonder how many times their maternal grandmother is going to die within the next six months. My guess is five.

This is so true! I've had this happen. There are lots of "in the hospital" and "car accidents" I guess over there. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19248943)
Cost = whatever you pay them + time to redo all their work + income lost during that period.

Same with Indians.

Just find some college kids on craigslist, they do a lot better work and quite often charge very little. Not to mention some will probably do it for free too, just for the perk of working with porn. :1orglaugh

Good call Damagex. It's better to pay a lil more and have the satisfaction of knowing it will get done without baby sitting imo.

LeRoy 10-13-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19248891)
In my experience, 90% of the time, Filipinos are more trouble than any savings you could possibly get. You have to go through a lot of them to find a good one. And then you have to train them. And then you have to wonder whether or not they are actually doing the work the way you train them. And then you have to wonder how many times their maternal grandmother is going to die within the next six months. My guess is five.

It does actually happen though. Ive had one guy show me the stream. It was live with him @ the funeral home next to his grandma's casket.

Along with storms, floods and internet outages. Its tough to find anything solid. Best thing is a "no deadline" type project and pay by the job.

Prices vary from 3.00 per hour and up.

mineistaken 10-13-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19249025)
Those places are full of Indians, Pakis and Filipinos too. If you can, try getting someone from Eastern Europe instead. They charge about the same, but they actually do good work and, surprisingly, they actually understand English quite well.

Anyone who outsourced knows this is true. It looks like any "yes sir" idiot in east asia is going online to work for webmasters. When you hire from eastern europe you at least get mostly those that know what they are doing. Plus you can communicate with them well, rather than "yes sir" indians..
I manage outsourced workers and I could source you decent one for about 700$/month.

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Dirty F 10-13-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19249625)
Anyone who outsourced knows this is true. It looks like any "yes sir" idiot in east asia is going online to work for webmasters. When you hire from eastern europe you at least get mostly those that know what they are doing. Plus you can communicate with them well, rather than "yes sir" indians..
I manage outsourced workers and I could source you decent one for about 700$/month.

Or easily find one yourself for 300.

mineistaken 10-13-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19249654)
Or easily find one yourself for 300.

Like few already posted - its not that easy, especially not for 300$. You obviously have no idea if you say easily and 300$. At least 9 out of 10 would be a bust until you find half decent one.
And by the way I was talking about europeans, not philipinos. So no 300$, lol

ilnjscb 10-13-2012 08:44 PM

Get chinese or eastern european OR in phil have a native management co. I didn't know oDesk didn't allow adult - I've never seen an issue. Maybe no one has reported ....

icymelon 10-13-2012 09:38 PM

never hire them for full time because they are working a few gigs anyway. Figure that if it takes you one hour it will take them 2 hours and pay them per project at a rate of $2-$3 dollars hour. But never hourly. always on project basis.

BareBacked 10-14-2012 06:55 PM

you are looking at easy $3000 a month for this


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