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  • klinton
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2003
    • 8766

    #1

    nastydollars ratios after manwin

    steady, drop, or better ?

    mine - dramatically dropped ;-)
  • mikke
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    • Jan 2010
    • 1327

    #2
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    • Matyko
      PsyHead
      • Aug 2005
      • 8681

      #3
      data from 2012:
      1st jan to 15th sep: 1:1667
      16th sep to today: 1:4135 [2 sales]
      not really good measurement but ...
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      • lucas131
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        • Aug 2004
        • 11475

        #4
        i am on the same to say ... hope it will stay like it is ...

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        • iwaxoff
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2011
          • 80

          #5
          so far no changes...

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          • Luscious Media
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2005
            • 785

            #6
            Went from doing a sale or two a day average to 1 sale this pay period. They only thing that has changed is who runs the program. As usual, Manwin buys a program and turns the shave to full throttle. Bye bye ND.
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            • Konda
              ...
              • Apr 2003
              • 2280

              #7
              No change.
              And why would there be. Same sites, same processing, etc.

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              • klinton
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2003
                • 8766

                #8
                Originally posted by Matyko
                data from 2012:
                1st jan to 15th sep: 1:1667
                16th sep to today: 1:4135 [2 sales]
                not really good measurement but ...
                exactly, i was on 1:500 average with them from january.... from 15th september it is 1:2500 ;-)

                never had such tragic 2 consecutive pay periods with them since a VERY long time....

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                • signupdamnit
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6697

                  #9
                  Originally posted by klinton
                  exactly, i was on 1:500 average with them from january.... from 15th september it is 1:2500 ;-)

                  never had such tragic 2 consecutive pay periods with them since a VERY long time....
                  Are you going by the counts in their webmaster area? I hope not because those aren't first page raws or even uniques. 1:2500 by their count is probably more like 1:6000 - 1:10000 in actuality.

                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                  • klinton
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8766

                    #10
                    Originally posted by signupdamnit
                    Are you going by the counts in their webmaster area? I hope not because those aren't first page raws or even uniques. 1:2500 by their count is probably more like 1:6000 - 1:10000 in actuality.
                    well yes, but it doesn't matter actually that much for me...sales are 4 X lower than they should be.

                    and nastydollars counts click OK, the other thing is how program3 or bangbros count clicks ;-)

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                    • signupdamnit
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6697

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Luscious Media
                      Went from doing a sale or two a day average to 1 sale this pay period. They only thing that has changed is who runs the program. As usual, Manwin buys a program and turns the shave to full throttle. Bye bye ND.
                      There's probably 500+ posts from affiliates complaining about ratios after Manwin buys a program. And that's not even counting what may have been deleted. My rude awakening was when they bought Webcams.com. I had no idea they had bought them until six months after the fact.
                      Last edited by signupdamnit; 10-11-2012, 07:25 AM.

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                      • wehateporn
                        Promoting Debate on GFY
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 27176

                        #12
                        When Manwin bought Playboy, sales went up!

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                        • Fat Panda
                          Porn is Dead. Move along.
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 13296

                          #13
                          manwin has owned ND for over a year...

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                          • klinton
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 8766

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SAC
                            manwin has owned ND for over a year...
                            really ? not from September 2012 ?

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                            • klinton
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 8766

                              #15
                              bump.......

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                              • CT-Content
                                So Fucking Intelligent
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 434

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SAC
                                manwin has owned ND for over a year...
                                You may want to verify your information prior to publishing incorrect information.
                                http://business.avn.com/articles/tec...gs-487487.html

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                                • The Dawg
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 2438

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Luscious Media
                                  Went from doing a sale or two a day average to 1 sale this pay period. They only thing that has changed is who runs the program. As usual, Manwin buys a program and turns the shave to full throttle. Bye bye ND.
                                  ESET warning on your LM site.

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                                  • RayBonga
                                    too cool for highschool
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 12164

                                    #18
                                    Its ridiculous, they don't even try to hide it...

                                    Went from a long track record of 1:600/1:800 to 1:1300 overnight when they got bought! (proof below)
                                    Same exact traffic, everything equal, but conversions dropped to half what they were before

                                    BTW, whats the best alternative to these guys right now??

                                    1st half 2011 ratio - 1:768
                                    2nd half 2011 ratio - 1:813
                                    1st half 2012 ratio - 1:654
                                    July to October 2012 ratio - 1:1304







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                                    • Fat Panda
                                      Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 13296

                                      #19
                                      Wow RayBonga that fucking sucks!

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                                      • BlackCrayon
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 19634

                                        #20
                                        for me, shit plummeted so i dumped them.
                                        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                        • klinton
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 8766

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RayBonga
                                          Its ridiculous, they don't even try to hide it...

                                          Went from a long track record of 1:600/1:800 to 1:1300 overnight when they got bought! (proof below)
                                          Same exact traffic, everything equal, but conversions dropped to half what they were before

                                          BTW, whats the best alternative to these guys right now??

                                          1st half 2011 ratio - 1:768
                                          2nd half 2011 ratio - 1:813
                                          1st half 2012 ratio - 1:654
                                          July to October 2012 ratio - 1:1304









                                          i earn few times less, but the trend of ratios is almost the same

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                                          • wargames
                                            Kliris
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 10423

                                            #22
                                            Business as usual here.
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                                            • V_RocKs
                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 32449

                                              #23
                                              not a big change either way

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                                              • Niktamer
                                                Lord of the Leads
                                                • May 2005
                                                • 3021

                                                #24
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                                                • Nasty
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 1575

                                                  #25
                                                  Nasty Dollars down about 40% but program3 and bang bros are just fucking horrible this period for me

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                                                  • mechanicvirus
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 4219

                                                    #26
                                                    January 1-September 15: 6,082 4 1:1521
                                                    September 15-October 15: 2,467 5 1:493

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                                                    • DWB
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 31779

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RayBonga
                                                      Its ridiculous, they don't even try to hide it...

                                                      Went from a long track record of 1:600/1:800 to 1:1300 overnight when they got bought! (proof below)
                                                      Same exact traffic, everything equal, but conversions dropped to half what they were before

                                                      BTW, whats the best alternative to these guys right now??

                                                      1st half 2011 ratio - 1:768
                                                      2nd half 2011 ratio - 1:813
                                                      1st half 2012 ratio - 1:654
                                                      July to October 2012 ratio - 1:1304







                                                      Was it not Fabian himself who said he can buy a company and increase its profits something like 50% within a few months?

                                                      Duh. I doubt he's using Paul Markham magic join links.

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                                                      • thickcash_amo
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                                                        • Sep 2009
                                                        • 3847

                                                        #28
                                                        when exactly was the switch from RK to Manwin?

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                                                        • Dirty Dane
                                                          Sick Fuck
                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 9491

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DWB
                                                          Was it not Fabian himself who said he can buy a company and increase its profits something like 50% within a few months?
                                                          Affiliate ratio is not the same as company profit

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                                                          • Lace
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 16116

                                                            #30
                                                            It's been horrible since the merger. I have a few friends saying the same thing. Went from steady sales each and every period to almost nothing.

                                                            Shave-o-meter got cranked up.
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                                                            • CT-Content
                                                              So Fucking Intelligent
                                                              • Aug 2012
                                                              • 434

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DWB
                                                              Was it not Fabian himself who said he can buy a company and increase its profits something like 50% within a few months?

                                                              Duh. I doubt he's using Paul Markham magic join links.
                                                              According to Fabian, your statement is correct. You're failing to realize Fabian is a ex-master programmer. If memory serves me correctly, he sold FAO awhile ago and purchased other online ventures which are currently earning him a cool 1.5 mil a month.

                                                              Can not deny Fabian's claims after witnessing Manwin buying up every substantial property in the adult biz. It's like the Home Depot arrived in your neighborhood sucking up all the small business owners.

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                                                              • Fat Panda
                                                                Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                • 13296

                                                                #32
                                                                nd gallery creation has pretty much stopped....

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                                                                • Dirty F
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 59204

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Lace
                                                                  It's been horrible since the merger. I have a few friends saying the same thing. Went from steady sales each and every period to almost nothing.

                                                                  Shave-o-meter got cranked up.
                                                                  So how do you explain all the people who are doing the same as before?

                                                                  What do you people think happens after they buy a program. They somehow right away install a shaver in the software and shave random webmasters?
                                                                  I'm really curious. I hope someone will answer me.

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                                                                  • BIGTYMER
                                                                    Junior Achiever
                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                    • 17066

                                                                    #34
                                                                    As expected.

                                                                    #fail

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                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 59204

                                                                      #35
                                                                      No answer. Guess common sense is not something people are interested in in topics like this.

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                                                                      • Fat Panda
                                                                        Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                        • 13296

                                                                        #36
                                                                        after the RK Manwin merger announcement a year ago my conversions instantly TANKED...but they are now slowly coming back

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                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 59204

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by SAC
                                                                          after the RK Manwin merger announcement a year ago my conversions instantly TANKED...but they are now slowly coming back
                                                                          Yup, most he because they instantly turned on the shaver and then slowly started shaving less and less. Right?

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                                                                          • klinton
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 8766

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                            No answer. Guess common sense is not something people are interested in in topics like this.
                                                                            oh come on

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                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 59204

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by klinton
                                                                              oh come on
                                                                              Come on? What?

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                                                                              • DWB
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 31779

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                Affiliate ratio is not the same as company profit
                                                                                Of course not. But if a lot of those affiliate sales go elsewhere, as it appears they always do, the company profits go up quite a bit.

                                                                                Originally posted by CT-Content
                                                                                You're failing to realize Fabian is a ex-master programmer.
                                                                                That is exactly the one thing I have not failed to realize.

                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                What do you people think happens after they buy a program. They somehow right away install a shaver in the software and shave random webmasters?
                                                                                I'm really curious. I hope someone will answer me.
                                                                                If you're the guy who created the software used to track the sales of those sites, it probably wouldn't take much to change it to make it do what you want. I'm not saying that is the case, but I think it is naive to think it couldn't be done very easily, all things considered.

                                                                                Perhaps those pushing Manwin sites experiencing reduced ratios should run random test joins every now and then to make sure you're getting credit.

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                                                                                • signupdamnit
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                  • 6697

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                  So how do you explain all the people who are doing the same as before?

                                                                                  What do you people think happens after they buy a program. They somehow right away install a shaver in the software and shave random webmasters?
                                                                                  I'm really curious. I hope someone will answer me.
                                                                                  Almost anything is possible in regards to this sort of thing. You could program a shaver to do almost anything. Only shave webmasters who send under 100,000 uniques per month, shave 50% of affiliates one month and the other 50% the next. Anything is possible. Just because Niktamer is doing great with them doesn't necessarily mean that Joe Affiliate is getting the same fair deal. Even back during the times of the MPA2 shaving fiasco there was the capability to only shave certain affiliates while leaving others alone.

                                                                                  This post is entirely theoretical and applies in general. Not only to Manwin. Although I will say that I have a history of bad experiences once Manwin buys a program I promote as an affiliate and I have seen literally hundreds of posts from other affiliates on different boards stating the same.

                                                                                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                  • Django
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Jul 2010
                                                                                    • 2578

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    hey are you doing

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                                                                                    • DWB
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 31779

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                      Almost anything is possible in regards to this sort of thing. You could program a shaver to do almost anything. Only shave webmasters who send under 100,000 uniques per month, shave 50% of affiliates one month and the other 50% the next. Anything is possible. Just because Niktamer is doing great with them doesn't necessarily mean that Joe Affiliate is getting the same fair deal. Even back during the times of the MPA2 shaving fiasco there was the capability to only shave certain affiliates while leaving others alone.

                                                                                      This post is entirely theoretical and applies in general. Not only to Manwin. Although I will say that I have a history of bad experiences once Manwin buys a program I promote as an affiliate and I have seen literally hundreds of posts from other affiliates on different boards stating the same.
                                                                                      Conspiracy theorist. No one in this industry would shave their webmasters.

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                                                                                      • RayBonga
                                                                                        too cool for highschool
                                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                                        • 12164

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                        So how do you explain all the people who are doing the same as before?

                                                                                        What do you people think happens after they buy a program. They somehow right away install a shaver in the software and shave random webmasters?
                                                                                        I'm really curious. I hope someone will answer me.
                                                                                        Why is that so unbelievable? I honestly don't get your point.

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                                                                                        • Roald
                                                                                          SecretFriends.com
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 27910

                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • Wicked 1
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 188

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Sales stopped here then picked up again at a normal rate.

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                                                                                            • arock10
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2006
                                                                                              • 6217

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Worst period all year for both fling and nasty dollars by a lot
                                                                                              Sup

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                                                                                              • klinton
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                                • 8766

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Wicked 1
                                                                                                Sales stopped here then picked up again at a normal rate.
                                                                                                same........

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                                                                                                • john1975
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2009
                                                                                                  • 985

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  when will there ever be an adult affiliate program that we never have to be paranoid over ? Pisses me the f off...never knowing if were gettin jipped or not.

                                                                                                  what about CrakRevenue...whatcha guys think ? supposedly made up by webmasters like ourselves.

                                                                                                  I need 1 friggin program I could fully trust...and won't be bought out by anybody the next friggin day.

                                                                                                  Another thing about nastydollars that pizzes me off...is how they redirect everything to RealityKings Mobile...even when I say No.

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                                                                                                  • klinton
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 8766

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    situation with ND seems to be back to normal at my side...from november...from april however something broken but its mostly google fault
                                                                                                    Originally posted by john1975
                                                                                                    when will there ever be an adult affiliate program that we never have to be paranoid over ? Pisses me the f off...never knowing if were gettin jipped or not.

                                                                                                    what about CrakRevenue...whatcha guys think ? supposedly made up by webmasters like ourselves.

                                                                                                    I need 1 friggin program I could fully trust...and won't be bought out by anybody the next friggin day.

                                                                                                    Another thing about nastydollars that pizzes me off...is how they redirect everything to RealityKings Mobile...even when I say No.

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