nastydollars ratios after manwin
 

steady, drop, or better ?

mine - dramatically dropped ;-)

oh dear..

data from 2012:
1st jan to 15th sep: 1:1667
16th sep to today: 1:4135 [2 sales]
not really good measurement but ...

i am on the same to say ... hope it will stay like it is ... :)

so far no changes...

Went from doing a sale or two a day average to 1 sale this pay period. They only thing that has changed is who runs the program. As usual, Manwin buys a program and turns the shave to full throttle. Bye bye ND.

No change.
And why would there be. Same sites, same processing, etc.

exactly, i was on 1:500 average with them from january.... from 15th september it is 1:2500 ;-)

never had such tragic 2 consecutive pay periods with them since a VERY long time....

Are you going by the counts in their webmaster area? I hope not because those aren't first page raws or even uniques. 1:2500 by their count is probably more like 1:6000 - 1:10000 in actuality.

well yes, but it doesn't matter actually that much for me...sales are 4 X lower than they should be.

and nastydollars counts click OK, the other thing is how program3 or bangbros count clicks ;-)

There's probably 500+ posts from affiliates complaining about ratios after Manwin buys a program. And that's not even counting what may have been deleted. My rude awakening was when they bought Webcams.com. I had no idea they had bought them until six months after the fact.

When Manwin bought Playboy, sales went up!

manwin has owned ND for over a year...

really ? not from September 2012 ?

bump.......

You may want to verify your information prior to publishing incorrect information. :2 cents:
http://business.avn.com/articles/tec...gs-487487.html

ESET warning on your LM site.

Its ridiculous, they don't even try to hide it...

Went from a long track record of 1:600/1:800 to 1:1300 overnight when they got bought! (proof below)
Same exact traffic, everything equal, but conversions dropped to half what they were before :disgust

BTW, whats the best alternative to these guys right now??

1st half 2011 ratio - 1:768
2nd half 2011 ratio - 1:813
1st half 2012 ratio - 1:654
July to October 2012 ratio - 1:1304 :disgust

http://i.imgur.com/tpSks.png

http://i.imgur.com/TLrpJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/mcGXU.png

http://i.imgur.com/VGWAh.png

Wow RayBonga that fucking sucks!

for me, shit plummeted so i dumped them.

:(:(:(:(

i earn few times less, but the trend of ratios is almost the same :)

Business as usual here. :thumbsup

not a big change either way

For me its as good if not better than it always been... one of the best program EVER

We push mainly Gfrevenge and do our own banners.

Mobile
http://content.screencast.com/users/...2012-16.36.png

Web
http://content.screencast.com/users/...2012-16.35.png

My top converting sites (outside my own) on tube traffic with HIGH CTR banners.

www.fubilov.com 1:450
www.brazzers.com 1:600
www.gfrevenge.com 1:673

We make very good profit on very expansive spots, contact your reps.. a-b test your banners, try media buying... invest your time it will pay off.

Nasty Dollars down about 40% but program3 and bang bros are just fucking horrible this period for me

January 1-September 15: 6,082 4 1:1521
September 15-October 15: 2,467 5 1:493

Was it not Fabian himself who said he can buy a company and increase its profits something like 50% within a few months?

Duh. I doubt he's using Paul Markham magic join links.

when exactly was the switch from RK to Manwin?

Affiliate ratio is not the same as company profit :2 cents:

It's been horrible since the merger. I have a few friends saying the same thing. Went from steady sales each and every period to almost nothing.

Shave-o-meter got cranked up.

According to Fabian, your statement is correct. You're failing to realize Fabian is a ex-master programmer. If memory serves me correctly, he sold FAO awhile ago and purchased other online ventures which are currently earning him a cool 1.5 mil a month.

Can not deny Fabian's claims after witnessing Manwin buying up every substantial property in the adult biz. It's like the Home Depot arrived in your neighborhood sucking up all the small business owners.

nd gallery creation has pretty much stopped....

So how do you explain all the people who are doing the same as before?

What do you people think happens after they buy a program. They somehow right away install a shaver in the software and shave random webmasters?
I'm really curious. I hope someone will answer me.

As expected.

#fail

No answer. Guess common sense is not something people are interested in in topics like this.

after the RK Manwin merger announcement a year ago my conversions instantly TANKED...but they are now slowly coming back

Yup, most he because they instantly turned on the shaver and then slowly started shaving less and less. Right?

oh come on

Come on? What?

Of course not. But if a lot of those affiliate sales go elsewhere, as it appears they always do, the company profits go up quite a bit.

That is exactly the one thing I have not failed to realize.

If you're the guy who created the software used to track the sales of those sites, it probably wouldn't take much to change it to make it do what you want. I'm not saying that is the case, but I think it is naive to think it couldn't be done very easily, all things considered.

Perhaps those pushing Manwin sites experiencing reduced ratios should run random test joins every now and then to make sure you're getting credit.

Almost anything is possible in regards to this sort of thing. You could program a shaver to do almost anything. Only shave webmasters who send under 100,000 uniques per month, shave 50% of affiliates one month and the other 50% the next. Anything is possible. Just because Niktamer is doing great with them doesn't necessarily mean that Joe Affiliate is getting the same fair deal. Even back during the times of the MPA2 shaving fiasco there was the capability to only shave certain affiliates while leaving others alone.

This post is entirely theoretical and applies in general. Not only to Manwin. Although I will say that I have a history of bad experiences once Manwin buys a program I promote as an affiliate and I have seen literally hundreds of posts from other affiliates on different boards stating the same.

hey are you doing

Conspiracy theorist. No one in this industry would shave their webmasters.

Why is that so unbelievable? I honestly don't get your point.

Steady on xx sales a day.

Sales stopped here then picked up again at a normal rate.

Worst period all year for both fling and nasty dollars by a lot

same........

when will there ever be an adult affiliate program that we never have to be paranoid over ? Pisses me the f off...never knowing if were gettin jipped or not.

what about CrakRevenue...whatcha guys think ? supposedly made up by webmasters like ourselves.

I need 1 friggin program I could fully trust...and won't be bought out by anybody the next friggin day.

Another thing about nastydollars that pizzes me off...is how they redirect everything to RealityKings Mobile...even when I say No.

situation with ND seems to be back to normal at my side...from november...from april however something broken but its mostly google fault