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10-10-2012, 09:23 AM

What size of videos for streaming in members area should I use? I am going to use MP4 but not sure of the size.
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10-10-2012, 09:49 AM

The biggest you can. We have up to 1920x1080.

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10-10-2012, 10:37 AM

We use 960 x 540 h.264 @ 2.0 Mbps

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10-10-2012, 01:15 PM

You have two real options for optimal streaming:

1) Find a middle ground for the one stream you will offer. A video that is not too big so it will play for all of your members regardless of their connection. Just as a reference, if you encode it over 2000kbps, I can't stream it from here I am. Neither can a whole lot of people. That said, you can make a great looking 1280 x 720 video at 1800 - 2000kbps if you encode it right.

2) Load a few different size videos and let your media server choose the video that is correct for your users bandwidth.

Downloading, you can make the file as large as you want. But to stream it in real time with little problems, you need to make sure everyone can do it.

Originally posted by nicedreams

The biggest you can. We have up to 1920x1080.

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Streaming? I bet 1/2 of your members can't stream them at that size without letting them buffer for a long time.
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10-10-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by DWB

You have two real options for optimal streaming:

1) Find a middle ground for the one stream you will offer. A video that is not too big so it will play for all of your members regardless of their connection. Just as a reference, if you encode it over 2000kbps, I can't stream it from here I am. Neither can a whole lot of people. That said, you can make a great looking 1280 x 720 video at 1800 - 2000kbps if you encode it right.

2) Load a few different size videos and let your media server choose the video that is correct for your users bandwidth.

Downloading, you can make the file as large as you want. But to stream it in real time with little problems, you need to make sure everyone can do it.

Streaming? I bet 1/2 of your members can't stream them at that size without letting them buffer for a long time.

I don't have Wowza and am going to use lighttpd so I think the server can't choose the video optimal for each user. I don't know much about streaming so I'm not sure. What, based on your experience, would be the most popular settings for video encoding for streaming?
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10-10-2012, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by DWB

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Streaming? I bet 1/2 of your members can't stream them at that size without letting them buffer for a long time.

Perhaps, but that doesn't mean we can't offer it. Question didn't specify members speed...

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10-10-2012, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Kolargol

I don't have Wowza and am going to use lighttpd so I think the server can't choose the video optimal for each user. I don't know much about streaming so I'm not sure. What, based on your experience, would be the most popular settings for video encoding for streaming?

I don't know much about lighttpd, sorry.

Hit me up on ICQ and I'll walk you through what we do and the software we used to do it. It will be a good starting point for you.
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10-10-2012, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by nicedreams

Perhaps, but that doesn't mean we can't offer it. Question didn't specify members speed...

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That is right, you sure can, because 1/2 of them can stream it.

You should look into offering a lower stream option as well for those of us without blazing net connections (if you don't have it already). It just may help retention.
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10-10-2012, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by DWB

That is right, you sure can, because 1/2 of them can stream it.

You should look into offering a lower stream option as well for those of us without blazing net connections (if you don't have it already). It just may help retention.

Of course, we actually have 6 sizes:

[1920 x 1080 at 5900Kbps]
[1280 x 720 at 2600Kbps]
[1024 x 576 at 1700Kbps]
[768 x 432 at 900Kbps]
[512 x 288 at 400Kbps]
[512 x 288 at 200Kbps]

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10-10-2012, 02:55 PM

Most of our customers are offering videos in at least 2 sizes so that users that can't stream the really large version can still watch the movies. Most are offering a bigger version at 1280 or larger and a smaller one in the 640 or 720 range. Many are also offering 640 and/or 320 MP4 for iPad and mobile viewing

If you're using a CMS like Elevated X that has automatic video encoding it costs you nothing but a bit more hard drive space on your server to offer multiple sizes.

I hope this info is helpful.

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10-10-2012, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by nicedreams

Of course, we actually have 6 sizes:

[1920 x 1080 at 5900Kbps]
[1280 x 720 at 2600Kbps]
[1024 x 576 at 1700Kbps]
[768 x 432 at 900Kbps]
[512 x 288 at 400Kbps]
[512 x 288 at 200Kbps]

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Well then I'm just going to shut up and go sit in the corner.

Do you have stats on what gets watched the most? With such a large selection for them to choose from, I'm curious what is the most viewed size. For me, I can't stream anything over 2000Kbps without letting it buffer for a long time.
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10-10-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by BNMedia

We use 960 x 540 h.264 @ 2.0 Mbps

Use streaming 960x540 @1.5Mbps here as my current standard.

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10-10-2012, 03:56 PM

we have 1920X1080 5750K, thought that was highest but not anymore LOL,
Then 3-4 other sizes, we offer whole video and cut up parts also. WMV & Mpeg. Most people download the 2nd highest quality which is still very good but the highest is very close to it in downloads and the quality is so sweet

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10-10-2012, 05:09 PM

Generally, mine are 1920 x 1080 or "older" non HD are 720 x 480 until I re-encode them.

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10-11-2012, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by DWB

I don't know much about lighttpd, sorry.

Hit me up on ICQ and I'll walk you through what we do and the software we used to do it. It will be a good starting point for you.

OK, I will hit you up on ICQ.

It looks like 960x540 seems popular resolution.
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