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Tipsy 02-14-2003 05:43 PM

What's up with OneVerify and the insane rules?
 
Just a little rant.

I've just had sites declined by them for 'advertising' on the tour. The advertising in question was a very small box at the bottom of the warning page with links to filtering software to stop children accessing adult sites. Obviously I make no money from linking to stuff like netnanny of surfwatch. It's 100% there just to inform parents that this sort of stuff is available and that they should really be using it if they have kids.

Why is it that OneVerify don't allow that??? Is it OK as far as OV/TB are concerned for children to wander around porn sites? The rules make perfect sense regarding advertising but rejecting for linking to child filtering software as a warning to parents is plain daft.

Rant over.

kenny 02-14-2003 05:51 PM

I think they have a reviewer who is really strict. Sometimes after I have a site approved I will use a mirror layout and submit again to have it rejected. All depends on the reviewer I think. Dont quote me on this.:winkwink:

Tipsy 02-14-2003 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
I think they have a reviewer who is really strict. Sometimes after I have a site approved I will use a mirror layout and submit again to have it rejected. All depends on the reviewer I think. Dont quote me on this.:winkwink:
You're probably right but if that is the case then why would anyone employ staff totally unable to think for themselves? The links in the small box were obviously not advertising as such and simply there because child protection should be pushed more and is by most resposible sites including (I think - can't be bothered to double check) TB's own paysites. Any reviewer with just a little common sense and/or half a brain should have realised and let them go.

Sure - I don't need those links up but take some things seriously including the child thing. Part of the reason I concentrate mainly on AVS these days is because I can censor (and make money :) ). Hmmm...let's see...AVS is marketed as stopping minors having access to porn. However you can't tell parents other ways to help prevent this on AVS sites. Maybe there's logic there somewhere that I'm missing.

Quentin 02-14-2003 07:43 PM

Tipsy - this doesn't sound like a matter of a reviewer being too strict, it sounds like a reviewer who simply made a mistake, and didn't look close enough at the link.

The sites are first scanned by a bot that detects outlinks, and marks known "OK" links like filtering software and other similar non-advertising links. It sounds to me like the bot erroneously identified the link as advertising, and the human editor failed to verify the bot's accuracy.

I can take care of the problem for you right now if you send me your webmaster ID (the site ID for the site in question would help too, if you have that handy).

Tipsy 02-14-2003 07:56 PM

Many thanks for the reply. I was a little upset because there was simply no possible way the links could have been mistaken for anything other than what they were. A case of VERY over zealous reviewing.

I've taken the links out of the sites now because even the best company in the world can be slow to deal with this sort of problem and have resubmitted them without.

It'd be handy though if the reviewers could be told to allow this sort of link. As I say there could have been no confusion as to where the links went to and what they were for. That way I can use them again on future sites.

Again though thanks for the reply. As usual TB/OV support is better than most even if it is via a board :)

Theo 02-14-2003 08:00 PM

OneVerify drives great quality traffic to their AVS list. The ones that have sites in their list should feel very lucky.

gothweb 02-14-2003 08:03 PM

Technically, filtering software is *competition* for age verification systems. Just a thought.

DaLord 02-14-2003 08:09 PM

It sounds like a moron with a computer

Tipsy 02-14-2003 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Technically, filtering software is *competition* for age verification systems. Just a thought.
I wouldn't agree at all. Filtering on a machine would not affect an AVS at all unless kids are joining the AVS.

Quentin 02-14-2003 08:29 PM

Yeah, the reviewers already know that filtering software links are allowed. This sounds like a case of someone moving too fast, and not checking their/the bot's work closely enough.

Did you have multiple filtering software links on the page, or was it just one? The reason I ask is that I'm curious as to which software/link it was, so I can check and see if there are any filtering programs that are missing from our database of 'good links'.

FreeXXX 02-14-2003 08:29 PM

One Verify is just plain rediculous.

I have sites that re 100% clean, no outbound links at all, only outbound link is their console on the join page.

I have 2 galleries inside with a total of 60 pictures with 1 link to my ynot toplist account. Nothing else...

They say i have more than 3 links on the tour and too many advertising links in the members area.

One verify needs to learn to count that 0 is less than 3 and 2 small text links in the members area is ok. They still want a one verify banner over my text link even though they are already in the members area and they have already joined. Lets see lets try and sell their members another join...

I don't know who is dumber the bot or the reviewers? My bet is the reviewers are dumber

Quentin 02-14-2003 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeXXX
One Verify is just plain rediculous.

I have sites that re 100% clean, no outbound links at all, only outbound link is their console on the join page.

I have 2 galleries inside with a total of 60 pictures with 1 link to my ynot toplist account. Nothing else...

They say i have more than 3 links on the tour and too many advertising links in the members area.

One verify needs to learn to count that 0 is less than 3 and 2 small text links in the members area is ok. They still want a one verify banner over my text link even though they are already in the members area and they have already joined. Lets see lets try and sell their members another join...

I don't know who is dumber the bot or the reviewers? My bet is the reviewers are dumber

I assume that you've emailed OV support abut this; what was the explanation that you received? That sounds like a site that should have been approved, as well.

Dveron 02-14-2003 08:42 PM

Quentin, Those new videos sites like Cum Hungry Taylor etc on the new list are popping a console when you click on the video thumb, are consoles allowed now?

Quote:

OneVerify drives great quality traffic to their AVS list
Yup :thumbsup

Tipsy 02-14-2003 08:49 PM

Quentin...

CYBERPATROL NETNANNY SURFWATCH are the ones I use in a small table.

Almost sorry to bring it to the board but it's the best way to get attention sometimes and like I say the whole child thing is important to me :)

Quentin 02-14-2003 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dveron
Quentin, Those new videos sites like Cum Hungry Taylor etc on the new list are popping a console when you click on the video thumb, are consoles allowed now?

Yup :thumbsup

Nope - popping consoles is still not allowed.

Quentin 02-14-2003 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Quentin...

CYBERPATROL NETNANNY SURFWATCH are the ones I use in a small table.

Almost sorry to bring it to the board but it's the best way to get attention sometimes and like I say the whole child thing is important to me :)

Thanks - all 3 of those are in the database, so something went wrong with the scan of your site, obviously (on a bot and human level...)

theWatsonian 02-14-2003 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeXXX

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They still want a one verify banner over my text link even though they are already in the members area and they have already joined. Lets see lets try and sell their members another join...

That's the one that really bugs me.


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