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beks001 09-22-2012 10:05 AM

Bootstrapping vs. Capital or Equity Injections
 
What way do you prefer or think is best to operate? Hypothetical, let's say you have an idea. Startup costs less than 50-100k. Do you go balls out and back yourself through debt on CCs and other expensive interest modes or do you give up a piece of the pie?

Let's say you currently have 10k to work with as a hypothetical.

Sly 09-22-2012 10:10 AM

I like balls out.

You are up against the wall. You have no choice but to succeed.

Other people's money. You can lose it and not care.

Barefootsies 09-22-2012 10:14 AM

I prefer to live and die on my own sword.

Often times "investors" are not going to have the industry knowledge you do. They see everything black and white by the numbers. When you're self employed, or have "your balls out"... there is an element of calculated risk you need to account for. Often times, this can create tension.

Having an investor is a lot like answering to a boss. If you're going into business with someone, you want to make sure you both have a few bucks to your name, and are on the same page for the business plan. Otherwise, you will have endless grief.

:2 cents:

DamageX 09-22-2012 10:17 AM

Operating on a shoe string budget can be very stressful. If you CAN get investors, it can buy you resources that would enable your project to take off much faster than it would otherwise.

Barefootsies 09-22-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19205100)
Operating on a shoe string budget can be very stressful. If you CAN get investors, it can buy you resources that would enable your project to take off much faster than it would otherwise.

Correct. But you then must answer to investors/business partner.

Essentially, you're just trading off one stress for another at the end of the day.

:2 cents:

DamageX 09-22-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19205102)
Correct. But you then must answer to investors/business partner.

Essentially, you're just trading off one stress for another at the end of the day.

:2 cents:

Thing is, depending on the kind of investors you bring on board, you may well be a lot less stressed. Investors tend to think long-term, whereas you are usually under time pressure to make back your cash and go into positive cash-flow. So if an investor isn't looking for break-even until after 18-24 months, and thereafter for no more than 20% yearly ROI, you're good. With your own money, you need to break even fast and make it into positive cash-flow, because, well... You need to eat. :)

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Socks 09-22-2012 09:29 PM

1. Never use your family's money or borrow from a relative
2. Never borrow money from someone who can't afford to easily lose everything
3. Try to find someone who brings more than money to the table
4. Don't have an investor unless you have to
5. Capital is best for accelerating a business you know is profitable but needs capital to scale.


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