Is AVS dead? Anyone does it ?
 

So is it dead or ppl are still making money with it in 2012?

I say dead. I think most of the AVS companies are belly up. I miss the AVS days.

i still do it, i've been getting pretty good coversion ratios with my AVS sites.

Depends.. there are not many systems left..

Is AdultBouncer still around?

Deluxepass died, same as adultsallowed, or jans.. What about pornaccess from joel? (gamma).

Man, I used to have 1200 members in those networks, rebilling at 12-15 per month, just do the math. Really miss those days.

Unfortunately sexkey (from the evil guy, linked to titan?) has no revshare option.

I think a new AVS system should show up, but something more concentrated in unique fetish sites or such.. It would really work, seriously. It's just that people copy each other and one day someone said: Make all paysites like TUBE style and make AVS die, and all followed that path.

Sexkey is still turning and burning! :thumbsup

where the hell is my adultcheck gold id ...

Back in like 1999 we opened an AdultBouncer site, put some galleries on thehun and in a very short time had a lot of members.

They we opened up our own paysite because it did'nt make sense to split the money with AdultBouncer. We redirected all our traffic to our own paysites and AdultBouncer asked us to come back. We did'nt have to since we were already converting and retaining our own members.

I never understood why use and AVS when you can open your own paysite.












Mathieu

because you dont need to solve billing and tracking system? :2 cents:

in the old days, it was definitely billing...being in canada, ccbill and epoch couldnt take us, so we had to use Sypro and Lancelot...when they went down, we went to Netverifier AVS and i still have sites there..

because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

SexKey is still on fire, as it has been for years.

I miss the AgeCheck vs AdultCheck war.

I made tons of cash of CyberAge back in the day.

What the hell are you talking about?

Never used AVS for my own content. I put sponsor (promo galleries) content behind the AVS. They were all cool with it as long as I had their links and banners on the front page and on any inside page. Upsells were amazing. Sponsors were happy to give me content to build AVS sites a loooong time ago.

The AVS from Topbucks - forget its name - was sort-lived, but it kicked ass. One Verify? Was that it? That AVS killed.

I never had any problems with AVS. I really liked their scraper. However, I think MechBunny is much more powerful

Ok so from your replies i see it is still possible to do it.
We have tons of content and free man power so i was thinking about this...
What are best way to drag traffic to AVS these days ? Any good advice?

The same way you drive traffic to any site. AVS doesn't require special traffic.

sake, specifically for you Adult-Empire :thumbsup

those were the days:thumbsup I was mainly concentrating on Adultcheck, but had sites with Agecheck/cyberage as well:winkwink:

wrong AVS :)

Anyone wanting to learn more about AVS and how it's still a great model, just contact me.

Funny thing is that it might be an older model, but more and more webmasters are finding it's "new again". Sexkey is a great way to protect your content, and at the same time make money on free joins and upsell your favorite site(s) at the same time.

Contact me for a demo/examples/info.

You did that in 1999? "Mathieu" ? :1orglaugh

What if you don't have enough content for paysite? Or do not want to dedicate your time for updates? Fr instance lets say you have 2 videos and 200 pictures of some chick. Paysite is not an option, but AVS is.

I'm surprised you even dignified that idiotically stupid post with an answer. You're a better man than I! :thumbsup

but sexkey doesn't pay you for REBILLING like a paysite.. or like adultbouncer or deluxepass did.

That was the MAGIC of keeping your members retention and having 1000 members rebilling each month.

Getting paid 20 bucks or whatever for a one time signup makes no sense for THE AFFILIATE (only for that EVIL GUY or TITAN or whatever the owner is), and you will never ever REACH that level you could reach with adultbouncer or others..

BTW, what happened to MOVIE TITAN? I know he was linked to sexkey few years ago, same as some ASIAN-CANADIAN girl managing that empire of TGPs like loli**movies.com and titan network...

Quoted for truth - even more so today then back then..

Again.. It is pretty clear, lets paste it again:

because for non-us or non-europe webmasters, its like impossible to open a PAYSITE...

You need to have a registered office and ADDRESS in Europe or USA to have CCBILL or EPOCH approve you.. otherwise forget it.

Not sure if there is some trick to register a UK LIMITED COMPANY for 300 bucks and there is a way to have an addrees of UK to register in EPOCH.. any ideas?

Well, if there is some trick nobody here will tell me, that's for sure... but im sure there must be some way.

What is AVS? Can you break this down for the idiots like me that may not know what this is and how it's ran?

I'm assuming you're just trolling, and not really this stupid, but since SexKey is FREE for users, it'd be a bit tough for them to pay you for REBILLS, no? If you can't give away a FREE pass, you don't belong in this business.

Certifier AVS webmasters, step inside! LOL

Why the attack man? Why so aggressive?

I'm being serious, as someone who has worked 10 years with all the AVS's in the business I know what I'm talking about...

REBILLING in AVS's is the way to go to build a long term and solid income.

ASK anyone here who has been involved in rebilling AVS systems... ASK the 8-baller guy that had his AVS in DELUXEPASS, Ask apornarchive guy that had 10,000 members rebilling each month in every single AVS system... Do the math and you will see.

SEXKEY doesn't offer that. For me it doesn't matter if it's 25 per free signup, I would make 5 times more money, if they offered Rebilling, let's say 29.95 and 14,95 rebills for me...

I'm not attacking you. I'm complimenting you, in a way -- that you couldn't possibly be as stupid as your comments would lead people to believe. It's like Paul Markham .. he's probably not an idiot, he just posts like one. You always think I'm being aggressive toward you. No one else has accused me of that; it's odd.


I've listened to your argument. Please allow me to retort:

http://www.edgeprod.com/dom/skchex.jpg

The increased conversions of SexKey being free more than make up for the rebills, in my personal experience. I've been an AVS webmaster since 1996, and I'm "doubling down" .. no, "tripling down" with SexKey right now. Evil Chris convinced me to reconnect with the SK guys in a big way, and I'm in the nascent stages of scaling out a very ambitious project.

Well man, that's your opinion... I'm convinced I can make more with rebills, In fact I made way more than what you list on your checks, with rebills...

And I trust in a long term relationship with the surfer, who joins to your system and wants to stay there, thus you need to give them more content, movies and pictures and UPDATE your archive regularly with more content...

Post some checks up so we can drool over 'em. SexKey pays every 2 weeks, so if you're making more than $25k in a two-week period, you might just convince me to do it YOUR way.

Looking forward to you showing us the light. :thumbsup

Post a more recent check.

Who writes checks anymore? Read my previous posts for my plan to renew my relationship with SexKey. Now that I'm out of my 6-year-long "exclusive" contract, I can promote whoever I want again, and SexKey is going to be my first stop! I feel like a huge weight has been lifted! :)

thats 4 real

Dude, just google "nominee director", it's not a trick, it's called business 101.

When you make some good money, you don't get paid via check...

BTW, nobody answered my question, is TITAN still related to SEXKEY? And what about the Asian-Canadian girl?

I am convinced Venus Blogger is a fake nick. There's just no way.

You`re thinking the xxxkey.com network I believe. Titan converted a number of his movie sites into tubes.

I used to really like using sexkey - great system. :)

I thought there was at least SOME glimmer of hope ... but the answer was all I needed to see.


C'mon back, we'll have a "returning to SexKey" party. I'm having a meeting with Chris tomorrow about going back. :thumbsup

Thanks mate. I will certainly consider it. It really was an easy conversion several years ago with never any missed payments and truly exceptional support. :)

They have NEVER, EVER missed a payment for me. :thumbsup

Good chatting with you guys yesterday!

Indeed, thanx for making us things clear Chris! Looking forward to work with you guys !

conversions are pretty shit these days i find on AVS, havent really found it worthwhile to hit it hard like we once did. Sexkey used to do great for me.. but not so much anymore.. unfort

Aren't those checks you posted for doing work for that particular AVS system and not for actually sending traffic/joins?

I'm pretty sure that's what you said the last time you posted those checks.

I would be interested in seeing a sex key demo, never got into avs, but always love pushing free.. What is the catch?

with deluxe pass (my first attempt at selling porn) I was doing around 16k a month by the end of my first year. I maintained & grew a little the next 2 years after that. Then it died.Thankfully around 6 months in I started my own sites. The flaw with that model is the 3 way split of money.
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