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ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 10:32 AM

Bella Cash is threatening me, I've done nothing wrong. Advice?
 
Last night I received the following email:

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Bella Network Legal Department [email protected]

10:06 PM (13 hours ago)

Eastyn,

Are you fucking retarded?

facebook . com / pages / Bryci / 116566835158764

Impersonation, stealing my copyrights etc?

I can and will have all your affiliate accounts with all CCbill sites,
Gods Girls, Pink Velvet etc shut down within 24 hours if you don't
remove this fake Bryci page and stop being an idiot.

This is your own warning. Then I have ccbill shut you down as well as
give me your address so I can pass it on to my lawyer.

Legal action. Lawsuit time. You feel me?

You have 24 hours

Steve
(I would have posted a screencap but gfy doesn't allow me to)

It's apparently a fake account for Bella Cash's model "Bryci", and is automatically updating by importing posts from a blog I run. PornThings [.] tumblr [.] com IS my blog that I use as an affiliate promotional tool, but the fake Bryci account has nothing to do with me and I was just as surprised to see what's happening as he was.

It shocks me that someone would create a fake account and import posts from my blog, I have no idea what their reasoning is, but I have nothing to do with it and would never do something so stupid so as to impersonate someone like that.

I have nothing to hide and I have done nothing wrong. I have no control over that fake "Bryci" Facebook account and am at a loss.

Any advice, suggestion, etc., is welcome.

Thanks,
Eastyn

DamageX 09-08-2012 10:38 AM

OK, first of all, if any of that is making them sales, they're retards for wanting it pulled.

Second, the first measure they should take is contact Facebook or flag the page or something. AFAIK Facebook is NOT tolerant of porn.

Third, threats are fucking childish either way... I know they're trying to protect their content and whatnot and I agree they should. BUT there are significantly more diplomatic ways of doing so. I do understand them being mad though.

beks001 09-08-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177481)
Last night I received the following email:



(I would have posted a screencap but gfy doesn't allow me to)

It's apparently a fake account for Bella Cash's model "Bryci", and is automatically updating by importing posts from a blog I run. PornThings [.] tumblr [.] com IS my blog that I use as an affiliate promotional tool, but the fake Bryci account has nothing to do with me and I was just as surprised to see what's happening as he was.

It shocks me that someone would create a fake account and import posts from my blog, I have no idea what their reasoning is, but I have nothing to do with it and would never do something so stupid so as to impersonate someone like that.

I have nothing to hide and I have done nothing wrong. I have no control over that fake "Bryci" Facebook account and am at a loss.

Any advice, suggestion, etc., is welcome.

Thanks,
Eastyn

Tell him to contact facebook and that it is not your page. Tell him you have no control over it if you truly don't...I just saved you 2k in legal fees. There you go. :)

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19177488)
Second, the first measure they should take is contact Facebook or flag the page or something. AFAIK Facebook is NOT tolerant of porn.

That's what I feel as well! I don't know why he didn't do that. It has nothing to do with me whatsoever so I cannot remove it myself. Frustrating!


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Originally Posted by beks001 (Post 19177490)
Tell him to contact facebook and that it is not your page. Tell him you have no control over it if you truly don't...I just saved you 2k in legal fees. There you go. :)

Definitely. I did tell him it's not me and I have nothing to do with it. He asked me "If you were me would you believe you?"

It's not me. I have no idea who did it or why anyone would link to my blog. It's not benefiting me (I never made a Bella Cash sale) and it's certainly not benefiting the person who created it. Bella Cash closed my affiliate account with them, which is fine, but I am concerned about my other account with GodsGirls being shut down because that one is important to me. This is aggravating.

Roald 09-08-2012 11:17 AM

Yeah that sounds like Bellacash, not a bad guy just extremely protective on his content.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19177536)
Yeah that sounds like Bellacash, not a bad guy just extremely protective on his content.

That's totally understandable and I'm fine with him closing my BC affiliate account as well as no longer posting any BC models because it's not that big a deal to me at all. But threatening my other accounts is what is really not cool with me especially considering I've done nothing wrong and am baffled by this Facebook thing as well.

Roald 09-08-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177539)
That's totally understandable and I'm fine with him closing my BC affiliate account as well as no longer posting any BC models because it's not that big a deal to me at all. But threatening my other accounts is what is really not cool with me especially considering I've done nothing wrong and am baffled by this Facebook thing as well.

I totally understand and it would be a low blow.

That is if you really don't own the fb page of course.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19177542)
I totally understand and it would be a low blow.

That is if you really don't own the fb page of course.

I do not own it. I have nothing to hide.

helterskelter808 09-08-2012 11:28 AM

Whether you do or not, Steve sounds like a monumental cunt.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19177549)
Whether you do or not, Steve sounds like a monumental cunt.

I thought the "are you fucking retarded?" comment was particularly interesting.

TheDA 09-08-2012 11:39 AM

Interesting that he is accusing you. I wonder what evidence he has or is he just playing the hunch card.

edgeprod 09-08-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19177549)
Whether you do or not, Steve sounds like a monumental cunt.

I'm trying to chalk it up to an e-mail written in the heat of passion. We've all done that, but ... wow. I'm a big "benefit of the doubt" kind of guy, though, so we'll see what time tells us.

TheDA 09-08-2012 11:44 AM

What happened to the tumblr blog?

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 19177564)
Interesting that he is accusing you. I wonder what evidence he has or is he just playing the hunch card.

The fake Bryci Facebook account is importing posts from my Tumblr account (which include my affiliate links), which is frustrating me a lot because it serves them no benefit so why do it?

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 19177579)
What happened to the tumblr blog?

I changed it's name in hopes that the fake Facebook account can no longer import from it.

helterskelter808 09-08-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177555)
I thought the "are you fucking retarded?" comment was particularly interesting.

Is http://mypornreviews.blogspot.mx yours?

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19177586)
Is (url removed as gfy wont allow me to post URLs) yours?

No affiliation whatsoever.

EddyTheDog 09-08-2012 11:52 AM

If you have the money let him try and hope he enjoys paying your fees.....

I have been in similar circumstances and only wish I had the cash to call their bluff.

Whatever the real situation is he sounds like someone I would not do any biz with.

rowan 09-08-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19177549)
Whether you do or not, Steve sounds like a monumental cunt.

To be fair, maybe that email was typed out when he was feeling particularly dark about having people copying his content; maybe it wasn't the first email he'd had to send that day. But yeah, it does look a lot like a tantrum. I especially like that it came from "Bella Network Legal Department", that's definitely something composed by a legal professional! :1orglaugh

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19177589)
If you have the money let him try and hope he enjoys paying your fees.....

I have been in similar circumstances and only wish I had the cash to call their bluff.

Whatever the real situation is he sounds like someone I would not do any biz with.

I probably don't have the money. I'm fine with no longer being a part of Bella Cash's affiliate program because I truly have nothing to hide and am not involved with that Facebook account.

Brujah 09-08-2012 11:54 AM

Steve sounds like a real asshole. Remind me never to promote BellaCash sites.

jimmycooper 09-08-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19177549)
Whether you do or not, Steve sounds like a monumental cunt.

Agreed. Something similar to this happened to someone else not too long ago. I think he threatened to tell 600 or some other random arbitrary number of affiliates that the offending affiliate was a bad person. Or something similarly retarded.

If I were in your shoes, I would contact CCBill to inform them of the situation and ask it's even possible for him to get any your non-BellaCash accounts suspended. Without even waiting for a response, I'd email Steve, tell him to eat my ass, and include this link: https://epoch.com/epochstats_program.html

Brujah 09-08-2012 11:56 AM

I'd wonder how CCBill and the other sponsor programs feel about him threatening the termination like that too.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 19177594)
I'd email Steve, tell him to eat my ass,

I did tell him that I have no reason to continue replying to his emails as I've done nothing wrong and have no affiliation to that Facebook. It's so ridiculous.

jimmycooper 09-08-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19177569)
I'm trying to chalk it up to an e-mail written in the heat of passion. We've all done that, but ... wow. I'm a big "benefit of the doubt" kind of guy, though, so we'll see what time tells us.

Good point. Considering that Bryci is his girlfriend, it may very well have been written in the heat of passion. Or maybe he's just off his meds. We've all been there before, right? :thumbsup

fitzmulti 09-08-2012 12:02 PM

The EASIEST resolution to this is to get the damn fake FB page removed...go report it, and have him, as well as anyone else who you can get to care, to report it.
Explain to him, if you haven't already, what is apparently going on.

Asking for advice here, is all well and good, but common sense dictates, to get the damn FB page removed. {It says it's only been there since Wednesday...so, it ought not be too difficult}
:P

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fitzmulti (Post 19177603)
The EASIEST resolution to this is to get the damn fake FB page removed...go report it, and have him, as well as anyone else who you can get to care, to report it.
Explain to him, if you haven't already, what is apparently going on.

Asking for advice here, is all well and good, but common sense dictates, to get the damn FB page removed.
:P

Obviously I have reported it, and I'm sure he has as well.
My main concern is his threats about having my main CCBill account closed down.

rowan 09-08-2012 12:06 PM

Steve sounds like a more angry version of AlphaSky.

TheDA 09-08-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177584)
The fake Bryci Facebook account is importing posts from my Tumblr account (which include my affiliate links), which is frustrating me a lot because it serves them no benefit so why do it?


I changed it's name in hopes that the fake Facebook account can no longer import from it.

You can see how it looks, you are the one that is benefiting from it.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 19177613)
You can see how it looks, you are the one that is benefiting from it.

I can see how it looks, but how it looks is not how it is. This is exceedingly alarming to me that someone would go through the trouble of creating a new Facebook account simply to link to that blog when nothing benefits them out of it. And I actually don't benefit at all either as I've never made a Bella Cash sale. I'm not upset about losing their affiliate partnership and I'm fine with going our separate ways, but I'm incredibly frustrated that this is happening in the sense that someone created this account and it's clearly making me look bad. I've got nothing to hide at all here but other than reporting the account (which I've done) and changing the blog's address so that the Facebook can not import anymore, I don't know what else I can do.

lucas131 09-08-2012 12:14 PM

lol ... so he didnt registered facebook account for his model, now someone did, someone have seo or made the facebook account active so bella admin knows about it, and now the guy is pissed that someone is sending traffic? now, he found out, and he cannot even find out what is going on and is treating you to have your other ccbill accounts, that he is not associated, blocked? is the guy fucking real? is he drunk or just that big ego bitch? motherfucker!!! say go fuck yourself you bitch to him and his lawyers! :2 cents: oh fucking man i love those fuckheads ...

Sly 09-08-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177616)
I can see how it looks, but how it looks is not how it is. This is exceedingly alarming to me that someone would go through the trouble of creating a new Facebook account simply to link to that blog when nothing benefits them out of it. And I actually don't benefit at all either as I've never made a Bella Cash sale. I'm not upset about losing their affiliate partnership and I'm fine with going our separate ways, but I'm incredibly frustrated that this is happening in the sense that someone created this account and it's clearly making me look bad. I've got nothing to hide at all here but other than reporting the account (which I've done) and changing the blog's address so that the Facebook can not import anymore, I don't know what else I can do.

It's fairly common and doesn't make you look bad really. Somebody is scraping your content. That's the end of the story. If it's not you, you did nothing wrong, and there is really not much you can do about it nor do you need to.

The real beef is with the guy that is impersonating this model. There is nothing wrong with your content use, from what I understand.

Brujah 09-08-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177616)
I can see how it looks, but how it looks is not how it is. This is exceedingly alarming to me that someone would go through the trouble of creating a new Facebook account simply to link to that blog when nothing benefits them out of it.

This kind of thing happens all the time. Someone wants to put a new site up and they can just grab some content so their site/page looks active by using a feed. Your site just happened to be the feed chosen.

rowan 09-08-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177616)
This is exceedingly alarming to me that someone would go through the trouble of creating a new Facebook account simply to link to that blog when nothing benefits them out of it.

If the page gets enough 'Likes' it can be used for marketing other things. You never know, the owner could have done the same thing with 50 other blogs. Or maybe they're some weird fan and that's a quick way of kick starting the page.

TheDA 09-08-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177616)
I can see how it looks, but how it looks is not how it is. This is exceedingly alarming to me that someone would go through the trouble of creating a new Facebook account simply to link to that blog when nothing benefits them out of it. And I actually don't benefit at all either as I've never made a Bella Cash sale. I'm not upset about losing their affiliate partnership and I'm fine with going our separate ways, but I'm incredibly frustrated that this is happening in the sense that someone created this account and it's clearly making me look bad. I've got nothing to hide at all here but other than reporting the account (which I've done) and changing the blog's address so that the Facebook can not import anymore, I don't know what else I can do.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

lucas131 09-08-2012 12:20 PM

not like trying to work something out, but hey i will block you and will get your adress and will send lawyers your way and will make from your life hell! what a fucking shit head! piece of human trash ... fuck. bellacash, good to know

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19177621)
This kind of thing happens all the time. Someone wants to put a new site up and they can just grab some content so their site/page looks active by using a feed. Your site just happened to be the feed chosen.

Frustrating! All I care about, really, is my main CCBill account so I'm hoping that stupid Facebook gets removed and my other account left in tact.

robwod 09-08-2012 12:21 PM

The one thing GFY has always been a great resource for is in revealing someone's true level of professionalism, be it that of affiliates, webmasters, brokers or program owners.

Brujah 09-08-2012 12:29 PM

So is this guy Steve/James also with GND and SpunkyCash? Always good to know who to avoid.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19177642)
So is this guy Steve/James also with GND and SpunkyCash? Always good to know who to avoid.

No idea, hopefully someone else knows!

DigitalTheory 09-08-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19177642)
So is this guy Steve/James also with GND and SpunkyCash? Always good to know who to avoid.



No he is not with spunkycash. As far as I remember he sold his GND network to spunky and moved onto bellacash.

VenusBlogger 09-08-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19177488)
OK, first of all, if any of that is making them sales, they're retards for wanting it pulled.

Second, the first measure they should take is contact Facebook or flag the page or something. AFAIK Facebook is NOT tolerant of porn.

Third, threats are fucking childish either way... I know they're trying to protect their content and whatnot and I agree they should. BUT there are significantly more diplomatic ways of doing so. I do understand them being mad though.

Completely agree, I had a sponsor do that to me once, they even called me via telephone, they were threating me badly... but finally they just closed my account.

And all because I created 5 blogs with 5 of their girls names (not impersonating anyone, although most people do it, but I created blogs of the girls)... And the girls saw the blogs and they were pissed. TRULY SUCKS...

That's another reason to take care of what PERSONAL INFO you give the sponsor NOWADAYS, since that day I really take care because NOWADAYS sponsors are really acting like Fucking IDIOTS, so must take care of what personal info you give to them, because they CAN ABUSE THE SYSTEM to MOLEST YOU.. Really sucks that a sponsor does that. After all we ARE sending them sales, we are not ENEMY.. but the sponsors sometimes take their OWN AFFILIATES as ENEMIES.. I hate when that happens and I specially HATE when a sponsor ACTS like a fuckign NAZI... At the first warning sign I see of a sponsor contacting me because of some bullshit, I STOP PROMOTING them because it always leads to the same end...

PIRIOD.

Brujah 09-08-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory (Post 19177652)
No he is not with spunkycash. As far as I remember he sold his GND network to spunky and moved onto bellacash.

Good stuff, thanks for the clarification.

DamageX 09-08-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19177654)
Completely agree, I had a sponsor do that to me once, they even called me via telephone, they were threating me badly... but finally they just closed my account.

And all because I created 5 blogs with 5 of their girls names (not impersonating anyone, althgouh most people do it, but I created blogs of the girls)... And the girls saw the blogs and they were pissed. TRULY SUCKS...

Easy fix, start using those blogs to send traffic to a different sponsor. I still have it in for a sponsor who strong-armed a friend of mine into selling them a domain ranking 2nd for a paysite name of theirs. One of these days I'll rank a site for that name and send the traffic to a different sponsor. If I ever get of my ass, that is. :1orglaugh

VenusBlogger 09-08-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19177536)
Yeah that sounds like Bellacash, not a bad guy just extremely protective on his content.

Thanks.

I will stay away from that fucking ASSHOLE from BELLA CASH.

I never promoted that idiot, but anyways... I will stay away.

Really hate NAZI SPONSORS. Can't stand those fucking idiots who got stuck in the past.

PIRIOD.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 12:57 PM

CCBill replied to me assuring that because my main account is not under his program he can't do anything to it. Good to know!

alias 09-08-2012 01:00 PM

Tell him to go fuck himself, I did.

helterskelter808 09-08-2012 01:10 PM

You jelly, newb? :winkwink:

EddyTheDog 09-08-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19177680)
CCBill replied to me assuring that because my main account is not under his program he can't do anything to it. Good to know!

Cool - Now tell him to shove it up his ass and show him this thread.

ZombieMovies 09-08-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19177708)
Cool - Now tell him to shove it up his ass and show him this thread.

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 19177684)
Tell him to go fuck himself, I did.

Haha well. I'm not vindictive. I'm happy to just let it go really.

arock10 09-08-2012 01:59 PM

another program owner that knows nothing about how websites work. thanks for posting


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