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GrantMercury 08-22-2012 09:27 PM

Rape-ublicans
 
This fucking party is so full of these shit skids.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...he-gop-ticket/

Paul Ryan thinks your sister, wife, or daughter should have no choice but to deliver her rapist's baby. No matter how she feels about it.

http://www.bartcop.com/Akin-legitimate-rape.jpg

topsiteking 08-22-2012 09:46 PM

I guess this is shocking to those who do not read the laws they pass.LOL

Coup 08-22-2012 10:16 PM

if it's a legitimate baldness... combs have a way to shut that whole thing down.

GregE 08-22-2012 10:19 PM

I just looked it up. That cretin really is a member of the Congressional Committee on Science and Technology.

Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann - who thinks the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the Federal Government - is on the Select Intelligence Committee.

WTF!

Gotta wonder how many times George Washington has rolled over in his grave by now :(

GrantMercury 08-22-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 19140560)
I just looked it up. That cretin really is a member of the Congressional Committee on Science and Technology.
:(

Unreal. Yet there are women who vote for these miscreants.

Today's GOP. Backwards! :boid

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DTK 08-22-2012 10:59 PM

This woman-hating, bigoted psychopath Akin also wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

http://www.boycotttheday.com/news/in...ng-rights-acts

Paul Markham 08-22-2012 11:13 PM

A women has the right to decide on her own body. If the State wants to intervene, it must bear the cost of intervention. In this case full support for the Mother and child.

In the case of rape, forcing a woman to bear a child of her rapist is how low some people will sink. It isn't a question that needs the State to intervene in. Of course people like Akin will just fly his daughter to a country where it's legal and deny others that right. If he has a daughter, wife or sister their views might be worth airing.

GrantMercury 08-22-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19140590)
This woman-hating, bigoted psychopath Akin also wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

http://www.boycotttheday.com/news/in...ng-rights-acts

Those charges of racism and misogyny in the GOP are TOTALLY unfounded.

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acrylix 08-22-2012 11:55 PM

And the cretins of the country continue their bickering about abortion and gay marriage while Rome burns.

Thank god there's hope for America come this November.

Obamney 2012. :2 cents:

http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.co...amney-2012.jpg

topsiteking 08-23-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrylix (Post 19140639)
And the cretins of the country continue their bickering about abortion and gay marriage while Rome burns.

Thank god there's hope for America come this November.

Obamney 2012.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Bill8 08-23-2012 12:18 AM

OP - who are you again? A jul2012 reg puts you in a position of suspicion.

I tend to agree with some of your points, but, I got no idea if you are credible.

smashits 08-23-2012 12:40 AM

One thing is sure, No women is going to vote from him.

I think, his political career is finished.

DTK 08-23-2012 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashits (Post 19140702)
One thing is sure, No women is going to vote from him.

I think, his political career is finished.

Want to bet on this? :disgust

kane 08-23-2012 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashits (Post 19140702)
One thing is sure, No women is going to vote from him.

I think, his political career is finished.

There are plenty of women who will vote for him.

I don't think he will win this election and he is like 65 so if he loses this election he may choose to retire, but while most women agree that what he said is dumb, and terrible, there are still a lot of women who think abortion should be illegal period and they will vote for him.

GrantMercury 08-23-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19140738)
There are plenty of women who will vote for him.

I don't think he will win this election and he is like 65 so if he loses this election he may choose to retire, but while most women agree that what he said is dumb, and terrible, there are still a lot of women who think abortion should be illegal period and they will vote for him.

Yup. There are millions of idiot women who vote GOP. They can't deal with their freedoms and want fewer of them. One has to wonder is they're upset about their right to vote. There was a time they couldn't do that. Do they consider those times "the good old days"?

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2012 08-23-2012 11:00 PM

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martinsc 08-23-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrylix (Post 19140639)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

2012 08-24-2012 12:20 AM

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GetSCORECash 08-24-2012 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashits (Post 19140702)
One thing is sure, No women is going to vote from him.

I think, his political career is finished.

Plenty of women will vote for him, you will see, not a majority but older religious women who are pro life will.

Paul Markham 08-24-2012 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19142738)

QFT I think I was making this point. Ban abortion, cut welfare, cut social program, cut health and then the world will be such a better place.

***********

The problem with religions is they are all based on a book that was obsolete before it was written. The three Jewish, Christian, Islam religions take their routes back to Abraham who know one knows much about. Probably a nomadic shepherd and the head of his family. The stories were passed orally by story tellers. Their authenticity is vague. Which suits the purpose of the religious.

Because since Abraham people have been finding religious ideas to gather wealth and control of people. They found loads of excuses for murder, genocide (even their mythical god figure was good at that) slaves, burning people at the stake, robbing them, torturing them and anything else they need to keep power and wealth.

A walk through any Cathedral, Mosque or Temple will confirm the evil of religion. The wealth built of the backs of others is clear to see.

CyberHustler 08-24-2012 03:49 AM


bronco67 08-24-2012 04:35 AM

Here's a question...

When all of these silly old white fucks die, will there be a new batch of silly old white fucks to step in their place? Or will there be less of these dirtbags with each generation, until finally all old white men will be forward thinking, progressive types who love their fellow man, and the opposite sex?

spazlabz 08-24-2012 05:18 AM

Akin definitely said something that is going to be remembered for at least 30 news cycles. So it'll be forgotten by the end of next month if it survives that long.

Was watching Maddow last night and she was pointing out that all the repubs are turning their back on what he said. Coming out strongly against it. Even Mitt did it so it is quite the wave right now.... Dems are not coming out against it. His opponent Claire McCaskill does not want to get in the way of his right to run and seems very concerned that the repub primary voters who selected him by an overwhelming majority be allowed to have their voices heard hahahaha

sperbonzo 08-24-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19142738)

George Carlin is funny, but actually Republicans give more to charity than liberals do... Look it up.

Maybe their feeling is more along these lines:

http://aiglstorfer.me/wp-content/upl...nnJillette.png

Meanwhile Akin and his ilk are sick bastards that need to shut up and go away.






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tony286 08-24-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143035)
George Carlin is funny, but actually Republicans give more to charity than liberals do... Look it up.

Maybe their feeling is more along these lines:

http://aiglstorfer.me/wp-content/upl...nnJillette.png

Meanwhile Akin and his ilk are sick bastards that need to shut up and go away.






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Really? Based on what bullshit blog is that? There should be a war on poverty not a war on the poor.

IllTestYourGirls 08-24-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19143076)
Really? Based on what bullshit blog is that? There should be a war on poverty not a war on the poor.

Huffington Post?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1810425.html

ABC news?
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gener...ry?id=17030246

Choopa_Pardo 08-24-2012 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19142738)

Perfect.

spazlabz 08-24-2012 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143035)
George Carlin is funny, but actually Republicans give more to charity than liberals do... Look it up.

Maybe their feeling is more along these lines:

http://aiglstorfer.me/wp-content/upl...nnJillette.png

Meanwhile Akin and his ilk are sick bastards that need to shut up and go away.






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I like Penn and and respect his views on a lot of things and I even wont deny that social conservatives will give to charities. I am not sure of the context of that quote but I am going to assume it is in regards to something like Somalia. And I do not think that is what Carlin was addressing.

Locally (in the US and not a part of foreign policy) the government has a much greater ability to help the poor than all of the charitable organizations and churches combined. I am a huge liberal for sure but I think the way they go about it could be improved greatly... providing assistance while training people or educating them for better jobs for those that can work would be great. But once those people have the education or training who is going to hire them? No one right now thats for sure and we certainly cant give them government jobs.... the social conservatives may give to charities, feel all warm and fuzzy for helping their fellow man.... but the policies they support do much more harm to the poor than any charity they could ever give :2 cents:

sperbonzo 08-24-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143142)
I am not sure of the context of that quote but I am going to assume it is in regards to something like Somalia. And I do not think that is what Carlin was addressing.

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Nope. The context was specifically about people in the US that think that by voting to have their neighbors money be taken, and given to others, is not "compassion". If I come to your house and take half of your stuff under threat of force and give it to other people, am I being "compassionate"?

meanwhile, I would like to see ANY study or research that shows that the government has a greater ability to help the poor than private charities. The fact that the government can take our money by force, or print more, is not an indication of their ability to do good works with that money in any kind of efficient, or even fair manner. Please show me a place that tells you that the government is better at this. I would be fascinated to read it.




.:)

Tom_PM 08-24-2012 07:45 AM

If you set aside $1 a day for the rest of your life then give it to your child who finds himself out of work with no food, it's fucking compassion.

spazlabz 08-24-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143160)
Nope. The context was specifically about people in the US that think that by voting to have their neighbors money be taken, and given to others, is not "compassion". If I come to your house and take half of your stuff under threat of force and give it to other people, am I being "compassionate"?

compassionate no....seriously injured..yes. I AM still an American

and that is a gross misrepresentation of taxation and not even worthy of an intelligent response.

Quote:

meanwhile, I would like to see ANY study or research that shows that the government has a greater ability to help the poor than private charities. The fact that the government can take our money by force, or print more, is not an indication of their ability to do good works with that money in any kind of efficient, or even fair manner. Please show me a place that tells you that the government is better at this. I would be fascinated to read it.
lets see, a study. Well I could spend a couple of hours researching this to try and win a debate on the interwebs or I could apply common sense... I'll take a swing at the latter.

How many people are on unemployment
how many people are still unemployed and off the unemployment statistics
How many people are on (yeah I call it this) welfare... all forms
how many people are on medicare/medicaid
what is the annual state and federal budget for unemployment, welfare, medicare/medicaid

I am assuming here that the difference between the sum total of all the above would greatly exceed the combined total of all domestic charitable and faith based organizations in the country based on what they give to help the poor in their communities. Why? because they do not have a budget of trillions. I would love to know (as a piece of trivia) what combined budget all the charities and faith based organizations have per year but I seriously doubt that anyone has those numbers.

having said all that my apologies to the OP for my part in hijacking a thread about Akin

MaDalton 08-24-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143160)
Nope. The context was specifically about people in the US that think that by voting to have their neighbors money be taken, and given to others, is not "compassion". If I come to your house and take half of your stuff under threat of force and give it to other people, am I being "compassionate"?

meanwhile, I would like to see ANY study or research that shows that the government has a greater ability to help the poor than private charities. The fact that the government can take our money by force, or print more, is not an indication of their ability to do good works with that money in any kind of efficient, or even fair manner. Please show me a place that tells you that the government is better at this. I would be fascinated to read it.




.:)


in other countries there are almost no charities and no donations - at least not of any significance compared to what the government does

look up the so called "Agenda 2010" and "Hartz IV" reforms the german government did and which was a huge step to strengthen the german economy and brought down the unemployement by 2 million people

not all fine and dandy though - sure - but with the right steps a government can do a lot.

unfortunately it leads to everyone relying on the german money now :Oh crap

2012 08-24-2012 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143035)
Look it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143160)
show me

http://i.imgur.com/BxcGD.gif

:1orglaugh

sperbonzo 08-24-2012 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143178)
compassionate no....seriously injured..yes. I AM still an American

and that is a gross misrepresentation of taxation and not even worthy of an intelligent response.



lets see, a study. Well I could spend a couple of hours researching this to try and win a debate on the interwebs or I could apply common sense... I'll take a swing at the latter.

How many people are on unemployment
how many people are still unemployed and off the unemployment statistics
How many people are on (yeah I call it this) welfare... all forms
how many people are on medicare/medicaid
what is the annual state and federal budget for unemployment, welfare, medicare/medicaid

I am assuming here that the difference between the sum total of all the above would greatly exceed the combined total of all domestic charitable and faith based organizations in the country based on what they give to help the poor in their communities. Why? because they do not have a budget of trillions. I would love to know (as a piece of trivia) what combined budget all the charities and faith based organizations have per year but I seriously doubt that anyone has those numbers.

having said all that my apologies to the OP for my part in hijacking a thread about Akin

Like I said in my post, the fact that the government has taken control of so much money does NOT mean that it is more efficent or fairer at helping the poor than private charity is. In fact on the contrary it has been shown over and over again to be grossly inefficent and prone to all kinds of sway from special interests. Just because the government can take your money by force, or print it, and private charity cannot, does not make it "better" at helping the poor.



....also my apologies for taking away from the subject of that Akin asshat....




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spazlabz 08-24-2012 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19143187)
in other countries there are almost no charities and no donations - at least not of any significance compared to what the government does

look up the so called "Agenda 2010" and "Hartz IV" reforms the german government did and which was a huge step to strengthen the german economy and brought down the unemployement by 2 million people

not all fine and dandy though - sure - but with the right steps a government can do a lot.

unfortunately it leads to everyone relying on the german money now :Oh crap

I had a chat with a German friend of mine a few months ago and he explained that unemployed people who want benefits there have to work to receive them. I am not sure I am describing it correctly but the idea of the government putting people to work until they can find real employment elsewhere is something I could get behind 100% I may be a serious liberal (social democrat by most American standards) but I think if you can work you should work and the government should be in a position to help you do it :2 cents:

edit: no, the babes cannot control if they get the preggers from a rapist or a family member

MaDalton 08-24-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143199)
I had a chat with a German friend of mine a few months ago and he explained that unemployed people who want benefits there have to work to receive them. I am not sure I am describing it correctly but the idea of the government putting people to work until they can find real employment elsewhere is something I could get behind 100% I may be a serious liberal (social democrat by most American standards) but I think if you can work you should work and the government should be in a position to help you do it :2 cents:

edit: no, the babes cannot control if they get the preggers from a rapist or a family member

not 100% correct but people have to make serious attempts to get work - otherwise they risk losing their benefits

but also no one is left completely on his own

of course also this systems benefits a few that know their way to receive money without doing anything in return - but basically it helped a majority

MaDalton 08-24-2012 08:15 AM

and i have said that before - i wouldnt want to live in a society that doesnt care about the weaker members. i am not raised like that. and even if its my tax money.

i feel blessed to live in places where i can live my life the way i want - in peace. with beer, food and girls ;)

DamianJ 08-24-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19142893)
QFT I think I was making this point. Ban abortion, cut welfare, cut social program, cut health and then the world will be such a better place.

That's entirely, and I mean 100%, the opposite of what Carlin meant. He was MOCKING people for suggesting such things.

/me shakes his head.

mayabong 08-24-2012 08:38 AM

I can't believe someone actually said this in public. lol

GrantMercury 08-24-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19142902)

That's horrifying. You know how to reduce how often this procedure is done?

Support sex education, so kids know how their parts work.
Support free contraception, so there's no reason poor women (and men) can't use it.

You know who is always dead-set against both things? THE FUCKING RAPE-PUBLICANS!!!!

Anyone who is anti-sex education and anti-contraception IS PRO-ABORTION.

The GOP is so full of these backwards fuckheads. George Carlin was absolutely right.

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Nikki_Licks 08-24-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19140487)
This fucking party is so full of these shit skids.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...he-gop-ticket/

Paul Ryan thinks your sister, wife, or daughter should have no choice but to deliver her rapist's baby. No matter how she feels about it.

http://www.bartcop.com/Akin-legitimate-rape.jpg

Doesn't make a difference what party it is.....all politicians are fucking scum sucking pigs...:2 cents:

shake 08-24-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19143555)

:thumbsup

Paul Markham 08-24-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143160)
Nope. The context was specifically about people in the US that think that by voting to have their neighbors money be taken, and given to others, is not "compassion". If I come to your house and take half of your stuff under threat of force and give it to other people, am I being "compassionate"?

meanwhile, I would like to see ANY study or research that shows that the government has a greater ability to help the poor than private charities. The fact that the government can take our money by force, or print more, is not an indication of their ability to do good works with that money in any kind of efficient, or even fair manner. Please show me a place that tells you that the government is better at this. I would be fascinated to read it.

So you want the poor to rely on charity. How noble of you.

Was it the poor that exported all their jobs to the Third World, because it's cheaper there?

The Government takes taxes which it trickles down into the economy far better than the rich will ever do. It employs people, builds things, etc. Maybe as much as 90% of taxes are spent in the US, which means people will be able to spend money on porn memberships. You would take the extra money and run down to the mall and buy yourself a nice imported shirt. Made in China.

The taxes are better off given to the poor. They will buy food, pay rent and spend it in america on the basics. In shops that are owned by the 1%.

Ultimately the problem with the US and many Western countries is you live way beyond your means. The Government has to print more to keep you in the luxury you're used to.

What would you spend the extra money on if you got a tax cut of 10%?

Some of you talk like it's 1960. Get real. The days of exporting more than you import, buying goods made in your country are long gone. Get with the program, it's 2012. :thumbsup

GrantMercury 08-24-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 19143623)
Doesn't make a difference what party it is.....all politicians are fucking scum sucking pigs...:2 cents:


They're not all the same. That's the lazy answer.

Any time you step into a voting booth, vote for the better option. Then keep an eye on them.

Voting is where it all starts - not where it ends. We need to be in touch with our elected officials, and let them know how we feel about what they do. If you don't, you're just giving the lobbyists total control.

Freedom isn't free. Part of the cost is staying informed, and staying in touch. They DO respond if they hear from enough constituents. :angrysoap

Paul Markham 08-24-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19144212)
They're not all the same. That's the lazy answer.

Any time you step into a voting booth, vote for the better option. Then keep an eye on them.

Voting is where it all starts - not where it ends. We need to be in touch with our elected officials, and let them know how we feel about what they do. If you don't, you're just giving the lobbyists total control.

Freedom isn't free. Part of the cost is staying informed, and staying in touch. They DO respond if they hear from enough constituents. :angrysoap

QFT











When you stop protesting for what's right, the politicians don't need to take you guns away.

gleem 08-25-2012 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143142)
I

Locally (in the US and not a part of foreign policy) the government has a much greater ability to help the poor than all of the charitable organizations and churches combined.

HA! a good charity uses 75% to 95% of it's donations go directly to the people it's trying to help... Gov't has a 75% or MORE overhead on every dollar it gets from the taxpayer to pay for it's own existence, and bureaucracy... you couldn't be more wrong!

The best way to be least effective on any cause is to give the gov't the power and your money to do it.

Amazes me that most people have no idea it's THEIR money that the gov't uses to do all this crap and the only thing the gov't has ever proven to be good & efficient at is wasting tax money, paying themselves & their cronies, growing itself, and killing people around the world.

spazlabz 08-25-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 19144726)
HA! a good charity uses 75% to 95% of it's donations go directly to the people it's trying to help... Gov't has a 75% or MORE overhead on every dollar it gets from the taxpayer to pay for it's own existence, and bureaucracy... you couldn't be more wrong!

The best way to be least effective on any cause is to give the gov't the power and your money to do it.

Amazes me that most people have no idea it's THEIR money that the gov't uses to do all this crap and the only thing the gov't has ever proven to be good & efficient at is wasting tax money, paying themselves & their cronies, growing itself, and killing people around the world.

I'll quote me too
Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143178)
lets see, a study. Well I could spend a couple of hours researching this to try and win a debate on the interwebs or I could apply common sense... I'll take a swing at the latter.

How many people are on unemployment
how many people are still unemployed and off the unemployment statistics
How many people are on (yeah I call it this) welfare... all forms
how many people are on medicare/medicaid
what is the annual state and federal budget for unemployment, welfare, medicare/medicaid

I am assuming here that the difference between the sum total of all the above would greatly exceed the combined total of all domestic charitable and faith based organizations in the country based on what they give to help the poor in their communities. Why? because they do not have a budget of trillions.

sperbonzo brought up a good point, the government sucks at efficiency and oversight of the social safety net programs they provide... they suck at controlling cost in all areas of the budget and whose fault is that? Ours, the American public's fault for not holding them accountable. But to think the government does not have substantially more resources to help the poor and unemployed in this nation that far exceeds the ability of all charitable organizations here... well to believe that in my opinion is to just quit and say "the government is broke and aint nuttin can be done bout it"

I firmly believe we could do a tremendous amount of good for our citizens, poor, middle class, employed, unemployed, small business owners, all of them if the people we elected stopped spending money like a drunk rich whore on rodeo drive and started being much more responsible with how and where they spent the money. They need to negotiate prices for products and services and not just accept outrageous prices. They should hire my wife to look over what they spend money on and then have to explain why such-n-such costs so much more for them... that would learn them!

2MuchMark 08-25-2012 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19140590)
This woman-hating, bigoted psychopath Akin also wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

http://www.boycotttheday.com/news/in...ng-rights-acts

It's not just Akin - its the entire GOP.

garce 08-25-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topsiteking (Post 19140519)
I guess this is shocking to those who do not read the laws they pass.LOL

Its shocking to everyone on the face of the Earth who does not believe in your imaginary "GOD ". Laws? Ha... you funny...

Paul Markham 08-25-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 19144726)
HA! a good charity uses 75% to 95% of it's donations go directly to the people it's trying to help... Gov't has a 75% or MORE overhead on every dollar it gets from the taxpayer to pay for it's own existence, and bureaucracy... you couldn't be more wrong!

The best way to be least effective on any cause is to give the gov't the power and your money to do it.

Amazes me that most people have no idea it's THEIR money that the gov't uses to do all this crap and the only thing the gov't has ever proven to be good & efficient at is wasting tax money, paying themselves & their cronies, growing itself, and killing people around the world.

So the Government cuts your taxes by $100 a month and you will give it to charities to look after the poor? :1orglaugh

Silly me, I was thinking you would go to the mall and spend it.


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