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Mutt 08-20-2012 08:45 PM

Please explain 'tax minimization' legit techniques through offshore corps
 
Mitt Romney does it, billion dollar US corporations do it, and if you look at most of the big programs in porn they have corporations in the UK and the Carribean for tax purposes i'm sure.

So how legally does it work?

wdsguy 08-20-2012 08:56 PM

You gotto know the right people.

xXXtesy10 08-20-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy (Post 19136625)
You gotto know the right people.

Google HSBC

BIGTYMER 08-20-2012 08:59 PM

There is a thread about this somewhere on here...

Joshua G 08-20-2012 10:17 PM

you should go into merrill lynch wealth management & ask them that question. they will ask you how much you make. if you not making over 250K, they will laugh at you, then press a button & you will fall into a garbage chute.

Paul Markham 08-21-2012 12:25 AM

Ask an accountant, it's simple if you have the funds.

John. 08-21-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 19136707)
you should go into merrill lynch wealth management & ask them that question. they will ask you how much you make. if you not making over 250K, they will laugh at you, then press a button & you will fall into a garbage chute.

what he said

rowan 08-21-2012 12:58 AM

Google Adsense is a separate company based for tax purposes in Ireland, from memory.

Captain Kawaii 08-21-2012 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19136607)
Mitt Romney does it, billion dollar US corporations do it, and if you look at most of the big programs in porn they have corporations in the UK and the Carribean for tax purposes i'm sure.

So how legally does it work?

If you have at least 100k to invest contact me, I can refer you to an excellent company, 110 years old that has proven to be quite the money makers with us. They set us up off shore easily and quickly. This is an OLD money firm.

teomaxxx 08-21-2012 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 19136707)
you should go into merrill lynch wealth management & ask them that question. they will ask you how much you make. if you not making over 250K, they will laugh at you, then press a button & you will fall into a garbage chute.

its more easy then 250k...there are Latvian banks you can have account with opening amount of 1k EUR. But then they suck for adult type of income, at least thats my experience.

Adraco 08-21-2012 05:29 AM

It's all very easy.
Setup a Panama company, or almost anywhere else where taxes are low or even zero. Then that company bill your legit, US based normal day to day operation, with invoices and all, for "consultancy services" and it just so happens that those invoices for "consultancy services" amounts to just about your yearly net profit. So you are basically moving the profit, which would be taxes with US taxes, out of the country and into a company which sees much lower taxes on its profits.

You can also set things up so that the Panama company ownes copyrights, brands, domains and such, and your US based company pay licensing fees to use the domains, brand names and other intellectual properties. Again, it just so happens,that the licensing fees, royalties and all amounts to just about the yearly net profit of the US based company.

That way you can take part of all tax deductions and stuff in the US, like business expenses and whatever not and then move the profits offshore and then cash out with much lower taxes.

To get a fully legal setup of the above basic scheme, go see a CPA or wealth management division at one of the largest banks. Do not fall for the millions of "start-your-own-offshore-company-we-promise-it's-legal-and-we-will-help-you" websites, which all claim to do it for about $1000 and up.

Mutt 08-21-2012 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 19137132)
It's all very easy.
Setup a Panama company, or almost anywhere else where taxes are low or even zero. Then that company bill your legit, US based normal day to day operation, with invoices and all, for "consultancy services" and it just so happens that those invoices for "consultancy services" amounts to just about your yearly net profit. So you are basically moving the profit, which would be taxes with US taxes, out of the country and into a company which sees much lower taxes on its profits.

This is what I assumed is what's done. But doesn't the IRS or CRA in Canada see through that and make you defend what exactly these 'consultancy services' are and who is providing them?

My best friend comes from a fairly wealthy family, him and his sisters when they were young adults would get paid from the dad's company a couple grand a month. They didn't do any work. I wasn't jealous or envious, not in my nature to be that way BUT I could never understand how the taxman never investigated and I think the company was audited once.

Phoenix 08-21-2012 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19137139)
This is what I assumed is what's done. But doesn't the IRS or CRA in Canada see through that and make you defend what exactly these 'consultancy services' are and who is providing them?

My best friend comes from a fairly wealthy family, him and his sisters when they were young adults would get paid from the dad's company a couple grand a month. They didn't do any work. I wasn't jealous or envious, not in my nature to be that way BUT I could never understand how the taxman never investigated and I think the company was audited once.

Well those kids would have been paying tax on the income as well.
Im about to start a corporation in china..for non adult of course.
tax there is 4%

Adraco 08-21-2012 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19137139)
This is what I assumed is what's done. But doesn't the IRS or CRA in Canada see through that and make you defend what exactly these 'consultancy services' are and who is providing them?

My best friend comes from a fairly wealthy family, him and his sisters when they were young adults would get paid from the dad's company a couple grand a month. They didn't do any work. I wasn't jealous or envious, not in my nature to be that way BUT I could never understand how the taxman never investigated and I think the company was audited once.

"Create" whatever expense you feel is necessary. Have all your servers in the Panama company and rent them out to your US business at a steep price and keep the profit in the Panama company. Create licensing fees, royalties and other things.

About being paid from a company and never doing any work, that's absolutely legal. It's up to the companyto decide if your work is good enough to keep you hired. The tax man does not investigate exactly how much, if at all, you actually work. They look at your declared income, if you are paying taxes on that, then everything's fine in their eyes.

sperbonzo 08-21-2012 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 19137132)
It's all very easy.
Setup a Panama company, or almost anywhere else where taxes are low or even zero. Then that company bill your legit, US based normal day to day operation, with invoices and all, for "consultancy services" and it just so happens that those invoices for "consultancy services" amounts to just about your yearly net profit. So you are basically moving the profit, which would be taxes with US taxes, out of the country and into a company which sees much lower taxes on its profits.

You can also set things up so that the Panama company ownes copyrights, brands, domains and such, and your US based company pay licensing fees to use the domains, brand names and other intellectual properties. Again, it just so happens,that the licensing fees, royalties and all amounts to just about the yearly net profit of the US based company.

That way you can take part of all tax deductions and stuff in the US, like business expenses and whatever not and then move the profits offshore and then cash out with much lower taxes.

To get a fully legal setup of the above basic scheme, go see a CPA or wealth management division at one of the largest banks. Do not fall for the millions of "start-your-own-offshore-company-we-promise-it's-legal-and-we-will-help-you" websites, which all claim to do it for about $1000 and up.



Some of this will change when FATCA is implimented. There will actually have to be a foreign national that is the signer for the offshore company and de facto owner.



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mafia_man 08-21-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19136607)
Mitt Romney does it, billion dollar US corporations do it, and if you look at most of the big programs in porn they have corporations in the UK and the Carribean for tax purposes i'm sure.

So how legally does it work?

It's not that hard.

You either move abroad or keep your money abroad.

As soon as I remit my money back to the UK I'll get taxed on it.

teomaxxx 08-21-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 19137069)
its more easy then 250k...there are Latvian banks you can have account with opening amount of 1k EUR. But then they suck for adult type of income, at least thats my experience.


just reading about Cyprus banks and adult income:
http://www.cclogic.com/forum/f2/offs...usiness-16546/
there are also some related threads to this topic.
they suck too
I had also in the past my account kicked out of one Austrian bank due bangbros sending me wires with title "bangbros com" :error

wdsguy 08-21-2012 12:12 PM

The best solution is to not be a US citizen and try to get citizenship in a country with a much lower tax rate. There are all sorts of ways to minimize your taxes by setting up shop abroad but the problem is you are always going to be in a position to be fucked if you are a US citizen and the IRS decides to come after you at some point.

Klen 08-21-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 19137844)
just reading about Cyprus banks and adult income:
http://www.cclogic.com/forum/f2/offs...usiness-16546/
there are also some related threads to this topic.
they suck too
I had also in the past my account kicked out of one Austrian bank due bangbros sending me wires with title "bangbros com" :error

Lol which bank exactly ?

ravo 08-21-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 19137782)
It's not that hard.

You either move abroad or keep your money abroad.

As soon as I remit my money back to the UK I'll get taxed on it.

This. You can have your offshore company makes as much money as you want, but as soon as you bring money back to your home country, it gets taxed. So, if you need money for your mortgage payments, food, etc, it will be taxed in your home country at your personal tax rates. (that's if you want to be fully legal about it)

teomaxxx 08-21-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19137869)
Lol which bank exactly ?

Hypovbg

and just now I am screaming for that as I am in urgent need of bank account for offshore company and the bank must be from one of the member countries "Financial Action Task Force on Money Laundering", which is exactly Austria or Switzerland - the last two bastions when offshore company can setup accounts when need to have a "serious outlook"

sperbonzo 08-21-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 19137782)
It's not that hard.

You either move abroad or keep your money abroad.

As soon as I remit my money back to the UK I'll get taxed on it.

In the US it doesn't matter where you live. If you are a US citizen and you never set foot back in the US again, you will still owe taxes for the rest of your life, or until you renounce your US citizenship.



.:2 cents:

lucas131 08-21-2012 02:22 PM

please somebody share step by step manual with pictures, so everyone can make it offshore

wdsguy 08-21-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19138166)
In the US it doesn't matter where you live. If you are a US citizen and you never set foot back in the US again, you will still owe taxes for the rest of your life, or until you renounce your US citizenship.



.:2 cents:

Exactly the point i was trying to make. Sucks being a US citizen sometimes.

Barefootsies 08-21-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 19136707)
you should go into merrill lynch wealth management & ask them that question. they will ask you how much you make. if you not making over 250K, they will laugh at you, then press a button & you will fall into a garbage chute.



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