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xxxjay 08-06-2012 07:08 PM

Who is WTF Bucks?
 
Can someone tell me who is behind them?

Coup 08-06-2012 07:12 PM

Sound like someone else has been enticed by their clever email marketing campaign*.





*spam

u-Bob 08-06-2012 07:13 PM

All I know is I've been getting a lot of spam from them (including spam sent to an address I only used to sign up for one of your programs: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1075083 )

Do a GFY search for wtfbucks and you'll find lots of threads about those spammers. Nicky from Eurorevenue was already looking into how they got a hold of addresses people only shared with Eurorevenue.

xxxjay 08-06-2012 07:15 PM

I don't even know who they are. They hack our www.LordsOfPorn.com webmaster list. Our other 3 programs didn't get touched.

I juts want to know so we can take legal action.

Anyone?

u-Bob 08-06-2012 07:16 PM

a few other's that got hit:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1076000
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1077068

xxxjay 08-06-2012 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 19107741)
All I know is I've been getting a lot of spam from them (including spam sent to an address I only used to sign up for one of your programs: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1075083 )

Do a GFY search for wtfbucks and you'll find lots of threads about those spammers. Nicky from Eurorevenue was already looking into how they got a hold of addresses people only shared with Eurorevenue.

They set off a seed unique email at Natnet. There is no question they are hacking programs still on NATS 3. Like I said our NATS 4 programs (which are much bigger) didn't get hit.

georgeyw 08-06-2012 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19107744)
I don't even know who they are. They hack our www.LordsOfPorn.com webmaster list. Our other 3 programs didn't get touched.

I juts want to know so we can take legal action.

Anyone?

They are a sponsor here - hit up Eric :thumbsup

Freaky_Akula 08-06-2012 07:21 PM

Ask Robbie. Maybe he knows. He said he was pushing them. Maybe he has information on where they send their payments from.

AmeliaG 08-06-2012 07:45 PM

Ah, mystery solved . . . well, my mystery of how they got my email, as I don't promote the other programs which have complained so far.

Hacking NATS installs to spam is almost as bad as the AFF spam. The AFF spam masquerades as emails one actually has to engage with, so it wastes more time.

But, sheesh, who the heck promotes programs which spammed them?

bluebook18 08-06-2012 07:55 PM

WTF bucks-hiit

The Ghost 08-06-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19107747)
They set off a seed unique email at Natnet. There is no question they are hacking programs still on NATS 3. Like I said our NATS 4 programs (which are much bigger) didn't get hit.

Jay, if you could send an email to webmaster [attttt] islanddollars.com. Want more details on this. Thanks.

Konda 08-06-2012 08:03 PM

They most likely used an exploit in un-patched Nats 3 installs (i think this was about a year ago?)

fris 08-06-2012 08:47 PM

that sucks jay, if its being used on nats3 install, im sure a lot of programs will be effected, if thats the reason with all the emails, im sure its just not 3 or 4 different programs db's they have now.

cause ive gotten about 20-25 emails all together over a period of time, not all belonging to the same program.

V_RocKs 08-06-2012 09:31 PM

I love their emails!

anexsia 08-06-2012 10:47 PM

WTF Spam!

CarlosTheGaucho 08-06-2012 11:41 PM

Jay I'll drop you a mail.

ShoeBox 08-06-2012 11:46 PM

yay drama

marlboroack 08-06-2012 11:52 PM

Waiting for shit to hit the fan.

ShoeBox 08-07-2012 12:01 AM

for everyones sake i hope xxxjay fucks them up!

anexsia 08-07-2012 12:02 AM

Serious Partners + 35 PPS = WTF Bucks

martinsc 08-07-2012 12:22 AM

:Oh crap :Oh crap

Darkhorse 08-07-2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 19108052)
Serious Partners + 35 PPS = WTF Bucks

That's them. They've been sending out these spam emails for a few months now so been doing it for awhile now.

DamianJ 08-07-2012 02:07 AM

Did I hear someone say Class Action?

Konda 08-07-2012 02:26 AM

WTFBucks: Veldix Trading Ltd

Boris Yuhmin

Veldix Trading Ltd.
Zina Kanther & Origonus
P.C. 3034
Limassol
Cyprus

helterskelter808 08-07-2012 02:59 AM

Who is DDFCash (apparently they are involved too)? I just looked at their site and WTF? It's a fucking joke.

http://nats.ddfcash.com

DamageX 08-07-2012 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19108187)
WTFBucks: Veldix Trading Ltd

Boris Yuhmin

Veldix Trading Ltd.
Zina Kanther & Origonus
P.C. 3034
Limassol
Cyprus

Yeah, good luck collecting...

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19108216)
Who is DDFCash (apparently they are involved too)?

Take your head out of your ass.

helterskelter808 08-07-2012 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19108224)
Take your head out of your ass.

Fuck off.

Edit: I'll explain my post above to avoid any more tiresome dumbfuck replies like BrainDamageX. Obviously I know DDFCash, but their site looks like it's either been hacked (like their database) by retards or it's been taken over by retards. So the question is who are they now, or what has happened to their site?

Nicky 08-07-2012 03:10 AM

We are moving to Nats 4.1

jscott 08-07-2012 03:11 AM

WTF Bucks, so we can all agree they are blacklistable? Adding today :)

I was annoyed with their email spams, but hacking databases to get our emails, that is just fucked up!!!

I hope you guys get some good legal actions against them fucks

CamTraffic 08-07-2012 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19108224)
Yeah, good luck collecting...

Take your head out of your ass.

why do you always have this MrKnowItAll attitude?
Like you know so much but you never actually say anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 19108052)
Serious Partners + 35 PPS = WTF Bucks

That's correct!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 19108230)
WTF Bucks, so we can all agree they are blacklistable? Adding today :)

I was annoyed with their email spams, but hacking databases to get our emails, that is just fucked up!!!
I hope you guys get some good legal actions against them fucks

added

jscott 08-07-2012 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 19108275)
added

Same here :thumbsup http://www.jscottcash.com/blacklist.php

DamageX 08-07-2012 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 19108275)
why do you always have this MrKnowItAll attitude?
Like you know so much but you never actually say anything.

Maybe I'm so stupid and insecure that I have to adopt such an attitude, in order to feel good about myself?

Or maybe I just know a lot of shit?

You pick one, makes no difference to me which. :)

Nicky 08-07-2012 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19108280)
Maybe I'm so stupid and insecure that I have to adopt such an attitude, in order to feel good about myself?

Or maybe I just know a lot of shit?

You pick one, makes no difference to me which. :)

I'm going with the first one you noob :winkwink:

DamageX 08-07-2012 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 19108284)
I'm going with the first one you noob :winkwink:

Asshole. :disgust

xxxjay 08-07-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoeBox (Post 19108049)
for everyones sake i hope xxxjay fucks them up!

Thanks.

Bump for drama.

xxxjay 08-07-2012 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19108187)
WTFBucks: Veldix Trading Ltd

Boris Yuhmin

Veldix Trading Ltd.
Zina Kanther & Origonus
P.C. 3034
Limassol
Cyprus

I am also getting this through anonymous sources...

I strongly assume WTF Bucks are the same company as http://serious-partners.com/ - Russians well known for stealing content and no 2257.

Even the program structure, layout is the same, their terms are the same and their aff. rep is Russian.

http://serious-partners.com/rules.html

http://wtfbucks.com/external.php?page=terms

The only company listed is

AVS Group Ltd, Suite 102, Ground Floor, Blake Building, Corner Eyre & Hutson Streets, Belize City

NewNick 08-07-2012 06:09 AM

NATS - what a pile of shite.

I have no idea why you all use this piece of garbage.

xxxjay 08-07-2012 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19108384)
NATS - what a pile of shite.

I have no idea why you all use this piece of garbage.

I disagree, but you are entitled to your wrong opinion.

spazlabz 08-07-2012 06:32 AM

Luckily we use NATS v4.1 so our list should be safe. Good luck in pursuing this Jay :thumbsup

PR_Phil 08-07-2012 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19108379)
I am also getting this through anonymous sources...

I strongly assume WTF Bucks are the same company as http://serious-partners.com/ - Russians well known for stealing content and no 2257.

Even the program structure, layout is the same, their terms are the same and their aff. rep is Russian.

http://serious-partners.com/rules.html

http://wtfbucks.com/external.php?page=terms

The only company listed is

AVS Group Ltd, Suite 102, Ground Floor, Blake Building, Corner Eyre & Hutson Streets, Belize City

I searched that addy when I got spammed, it is an incorporating lawyers office in Belize, so they paid him to incorperate a company for them, and are paying him to act as a DMCA agent. Or they are just using the addy.

they appear to also own this:
http://daltronn.com/homepage.php
which has it's own affiliate program

and process through a Cyprus corp called Hard media Inc.

topsiteking 08-07-2012 06:57 AM

Is there proof of any hacking?

helterskelter808 08-07-2012 07:02 AM

I don't see anyone denying it.

topsiteking 08-07-2012 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19108474)
I don't see anyone denying it.

I don't think that counts as proof.:1orglaugh

Konda 08-07-2012 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19108379)
I strongly assume WTF Bucks are the same company as http://serious-partners.com/

and also 35pps.com

http://35pps.com/license.php

Quote:

NATS (v4.1.2.1) LICENSE



This Version of NATS is licensed to:
Veldix Trading Ltd


http://35pps.com/
http://nats.wtfbucks.com/license.php

Quote:

NATS (v4.1.2.2) LICENSE



This Version of NATS is licensed to:
Veldix Trading Ltd


http://nats.wtfbucks.com/

Konda 08-07-2012 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topsiteking (Post 19108470)
Is there proof of any hacking?

They might not have hacked the databases themselves. They might just have bought the lists from a hacker, but it's a fact that some affiliate program's databases have been compromised and are being spammed by WTF Bucks.

Multiple people have confirmed to have received spam from WTF Bucks on unique email addresses which they have only used to signup for a specific program. At least 2 programs have been identified. The owner of 1 program was even informed by his host that his database was compromised, because when the host setup their Nats they seeded it with a Unique email, on which they now received email from WTF Bucks. Hence this thread.
There is no doubt about it that WTF Bucks spams compromised affiliate databases.

xxxjay 08-07-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19108419)
Luckily we use NATS v4.1 so our list should be safe. Good luck in pursuing this Jay :thumbsup

Hopefully we can find these scumbags and hang them by their scrotum. If not, hopefully everyone will be smart enough to not to business with them.

Evil Chris 08-07-2012 08:19 AM

Who is behind OC Cash? :)

2012 08-07-2012 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 19108610)
Who is behind OC Cash? :)

https://gfy.com/image.php?u=12932&dateline=1264032469

xxxjay 08-07-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 19108610)
Who is behind OC Cash? :)

Some douchebag - www.xxxjay.com

The Porn Nerd 08-07-2012 08:29 AM

Fiddy WTF's.


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