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beks001 08-03-2012 10:12 PM

7 day $1.00 trial non recurring...why?
 
I was looking at some ccbill programs and I see one that offers a 7 day non recurring trial for $1.00. That means $0.58 for the affiliate and who gets the rejoin commission when they offer a reduced price via mail as a win back? I'm confused here...Not many do it but I see wankpass does.

Does the affiliate make money on the join if they resign in these instances?

freecartoonporn 08-03-2012 11:38 PM

try contacting wankpass

KRosh 08-03-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by beks001 (Post 19102341)
I was looking at some ccbill programs and I see one that offers a 7 day non recurring trial for $1.00. That means $0.58 for the affiliate and who gets the rejoin commission when they offer a reduced price via mail as a win back? I'm confused here...Not many do it but I see wankpass does.

Does the affiliate make money on the join if they resign in these instances?

I am sure this is a limited trial with probably one video from each site and if you want to see more you have to pay $20-30

I am assuming you will get paid for those instant upgrades but you'll have to pay the $1 and find out :helpme

baddog 08-03-2012 11:53 PM

There is a lot of logic to it, think volume.

wehateporn 08-04-2012 02:05 AM

Collecting emails for the niche, they'll then send out mass emails that bypass the affiliate with the real price for the good stuff

adult_text_links 08-04-2012 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19102962)
Collecting emails for the niche, they'll then send out mass emails that bypass the affiliate with the real price for the good stuff


BINGO!

:1orglaugh

PornDiscounts-R 08-04-2012 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by beks001 (Post 19102341)
I was looking at some ccbill programs and I see one that offers a 7 day non recurring trial for $1.00. That means $0.58 for the affiliate and who gets the rejoin commission when they offer a reduced price via mail as a win back? I'm confused here...Not many do it but I see wankpass does.

Does the affiliate make money on the join if they resign in these instances?

It may seem wierd on the surface, but trust me. It works. And Michael ( Wankpass ) knows very well how to convert traffic and retain as well.
You can get some great numbers with him.

Test, test and more test have lead to this. But as suggested, send an email and have a chat with him. Very nice guy :thumbsup

And yes, it is a limited trial. Cant remember how much that is offered on the trial.

biskoppen 08-04-2012 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19102962)
Collecting emails for the niche, they'll then send out mass emails that bypass the affiliate with the real price for the good stuff

:321GFY

We aint mailing our members shit besides a "sure you dont want to upgrade" to members who hasnt upgraded after 5 days..

We do NOT spam our members

biskoppen 08-04-2012 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by beks001 (Post 19102341)
I was looking at some ccbill programs and I see one that offers a 7 day non recurring trial for $1.00. That means $0.58 for the affiliate and who gets the rejoin commission when they offer a reduced price via mail as a win back? I'm confused here...Not many do it but I see wankpass does.

Does the affiliate make money on the join if they resign in these instances?

Hey

Yeah, I get questions about this mysterious $1 none recurring trial every now and then, and it's understandable because it's not seen very often.

I have been experimenting with this for quite some years now and the results has been quite interesting.

If there's something a lot of customers/surfers doesn't like to read it's the word "recurring", that I found out like 4-5 years ago or so when we tried replacing our recurring trial with a none recurring one.. over night our trial sales increase by - are you ready? - 300%

So, our trial members gets access to a limited version of the full members area.. and if they want to view the full videos/galleries they need to upgrade their membership to full month recurring - for some reason it's much easier to get them to go recurring them they're already inside and seen a peak of the thousands of videos which they will get access to after they upgrade.

So, with 300% more trials sold, the upgrade ratio can be quite low to match up with the recurring trials.. but for a good portion of my sites it's actually pretty decent.

Here's the recent stats for my best sites (how long a period this is for, is classified information :pimp) :

These are 100% raw numbers, not uniques :

scandalshows 7861 5419 191 13 14 6 43% 27 1:291
publicsexshows 9009 6225 251 5 18 8 44% 23 1:392
stripclubcheaters 10829 7180 324 11 11 4 36% 22 1:492
untamedshows 11478 7315 189 16 6 3 50% 22 1:522

The numbers explained : raw tour hits, join page views, join page clicks, full sales, trials, upgrades, upgrade percentage, total sales, and raw ratio.

When a member upgrades it will pop up as a new recurring sale in your CCBILL affiliate stats.

These are ofcourse my best sites, but even an upgrade ratio of 30% is pretty good with none recurring trials if you ask me.. and it also minimized the cb ratio because here's it's actually the member himself taking the decision instead of a recurring trial he forgot to cancel ;)

PornDiscounts-R 08-04-2012 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 19103119)
Hey

Yeah, I get questions about this mysterious $1 none recurring trial every now and then, and it's understandable because it's not seen very often.

I have been experimenting with this for quite some years now and the results has been quite interesting.

If there's something a lot of customers/surfers doesn't like to read it's the word "recurring", that I found out like 4-5 years ago or so when we tried replacing our recurring trial with a none recurring one.. over night our trial sales increase by - are you ready? - 300%

So, our trial members gets access to a limited version of the full members area.. and if they want to view the full videos/galleries they need to upgrade their membership to full month recurring - for some reason it's much easier to get them to go recurring them they're already inside and seen a peak of the thousands of videos which they will get access to after they upgrade.

So, with 300% more trials sold, the upgrade ratio can be quite low to match up with the recurring trials.. but for a good portion of my sites it's actually pretty decent.

Here's the recent stats for my best sites (how long a period this is for, is classified information :pimp) :

These are 100% raw numbers, not uniques :

scandalshows 7861 5419 191 13 14 6 43% 27 1:291
publicsexshows 9009 6225 251 5 18 8 44% 23 1:392
stripclubcheaters 10829 7180 324 11 11 4 36% 22 1:492
untamedshows 11478 7315 189 16 6 3 50% 22 1:522

The numbers explained : raw tour hits, join page views, join page clicks, full sales, trials, upgrades, upgrade percentage, total sales, and raw ratio.

When a member upgrades it will pop up as a new recurring sale in your CCBILL affiliate stats.

These are ofcourse my best sites, but even an upgrade ratio of 30% is pretty good with none recurring trials if you ask me.. and it also minimized the cb ratio because here's it's actually the member himself taking the decision instead of a recurring trial he forgot to cancel ;)

And there you have it :thumbsup

beks001 08-04-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 19103119)
Hey

Yeah, I get questions about this mysterious $1 none recurring trial every now and then, and it's understandable because it's not seen very often.

I have been experimenting with this for quite some years now and the results has been quite interesting.

If there's something a lot of customers/surfers doesn't like to read it's the word "recurring", that I found out like 4-5 years ago or so when we tried replacing our recurring trial with a none recurring one.. over night our trial sales increase by - are you ready? - 300%

So, our trial members gets access to a limited version of the full members area.. and if they want to view the full videos/galleries they need to upgrade their membership to full month recurring - for some reason it's much easier to get them to go recurring them they're already inside and seen a peak of the thousands of videos which they will get access to after they upgrade.

So, with 300% more trials sold, the upgrade ratio can be quite low to match up with the recurring trials.. but for a good portion of my sites it's actually pretty decent.

Here's the recent stats for my best sites (how long a period this is for, is classified information :pimp) :

These are 100% raw numbers, not uniques :

scandalshows 7861 5419 191 13 14 6 43% 27 1:291
publicsexshows 9009 6225 251 5 18 8 44% 23 1:392
stripclubcheaters 10829 7180 324 11 11 4 36% 22 1:492
untamedshows 11478 7315 189 16 6 3 50% 22 1:522

The numbers explained : raw tour hits, join page views, join page clicks, full sales, trials, upgrades, upgrade percentage, total sales, and raw ratio.

When a member upgrades it will pop up as a new recurring sale in your CCBILL affiliate stats.

These are ofcourse my best sites, but even an upgrade ratio of 30% is pretty good with none recurring trials if you ask me.. and it also minimized the cb ratio because here's it's actually the member himself taking the decision instead of a recurring trial he forgot to cancel ;)

Awesome! This is a great explanation and makes sense now. Looks like I'll be getting more my links up shortly!


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