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chaze 06-28-2012 04:04 PM

hmm Obama is currupt and weak, Paul is a closet evengelish, and Romney is a spineless puppet
 
Welcome to the continual downgrade of our country and it's rulers.

galleryseek 06-28-2012 04:18 PM

Why would you care if someone is a closet evangelical? RP has said repeatedly he would never use his personal faith to influence policy, and he's pretty much the 0.001% of politicians you can actually trust based on a 30 year track record of sticking to his word.

But no, you're right about the other two, except Obama is also a puppet.

Tijuana_Tom 06-28-2012 04:22 PM

The only reason I can see people saying "Obamacare" is bad is just because they are taking control away from the public.

But in the end it's better for everyone.

Just like car insurance.

Not a single legitimate reason as to why "Obamacare" is bad for the American people.

galleryseek 06-28-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19030042)
The only reason I can see people saying "Obamacare" is bad is just because they are taking control away from the public.

But in the end it's better for everyone.

Who are you to make that determination? You don't speak for me, my family or anyone else for that matter.

And also, the public doesn't exist; groups don't exist. "they" as you refer to the government and politicians are individuals ruling over other individuals. When you take away the cognitive dissonance that people experience when they think of "government", it's easier to see the reality of the situation; others ruling others by force.

If you're perfectly fine with accepting the reality of the situation, that you're okay with violent solutions to solve social problems, then OK, you're a statist. Personally, I believe in voluntary relationships.

sperbonzo 06-28-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galleryseek (Post 19030061)
Why would you care if someone is a closet evangelical? RP has said repeatedly he would never use his personal faith to influence policy, and he's pretty much the 0.001% of politicians you can actually trust based on a 30 year track record of sticking to his word.





Who are you to make that determination? You don't speak for me, my family or anyone else for that matter.

And also, the public doesn't exist; groups don't exist. "they" as you refer to the government and politicians are individuals ruling over other individuals. When you take away the cognitive dissonance that people experience when they think of "government", it's easier to see the reality of the situation; others ruling others by force.

If you're perfectly fine with accepting the reality of the situation, that you're okay with violent solutions to solve social problems, then OK, you're a statist. Personally, I believe in voluntary relationships.



STANDING OVATION!!!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup



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chaze 06-28-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galleryseek (Post 19030033)
Why would you care if someone is a closet evangelical? RP has said repeatedly he would never use his personal faith to influence policy, and he's pretty much the 0.001% of politicians you can actually trust based on a 30 year track record of sticking to his word.

But no, you're right about the other two, except Obama is also a puppet.

You mean he has lied about it several times, do your home work it's public knowledge now. He signed a petition to over turn roe vs wade and to make abortion illegal yet said he wouldn't make his personal abortion views law. He lied about the very core of what he says he stands for.

chaze 06-28-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19030042)
The only reason I can see people saying "Obamacare" is bad is just because they are taking control away from the public.

But in the end it's better for everyone.

Just like car insurance.

Not a single legitimate reason as to why "Obamacare" is bad for the American people.

Like insurance we have to pay a stupid price for bad drivers. I am sorry their are bad drivers but I don't want to pay for them.

I am sorry there is people that take crap care of themselves but I also don't want to pay for them. We are the most unhealthy nation and now I have to pay to help all these people?

It's BS and if you don't see it then you are fooled by the corporations once again. The ones who benefit the most are the Health Care industry. They will make billions from this.


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