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gimme-website 06-09-2012 01:43 AM

My public "sorry" to Fris
 
There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.

As can be seen in a selection of replies i recived this morning.
Quote:

Hi Anna,

I can tell you that this is not true. We offer an affiliate program
with profit sharing for customers generated through affiliate links
but I do not believe that this is something we have done. We rely on
our customers to continue working on theme development and pirates
like this hurt us a lot.

Ryan - deluxethemes

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Anna GW <[email protected]> wrote:
> He is saying he has a dev licence/ GPL licence and he can do what he wants..
> including reselling/redistrubution.
But what I will do is this. I was contacted by your "money rinser".. and he has implored me to keep his name out of this. I will honour his request.

Ive also been asked to complete one of your unfinished projects by a client of yours.
I've taken a look and its a 4 hour job...It looks like 1 hour has been spent so far.
Your quote $450.. My estimate is $250... but im prolly gonna do it for free.. Lets call it goodwill and you've earnt an easy $450.

Peace. I hope you can get back to work soon. xxx

Oracle Porn 06-09-2012 01:50 AM

Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.

gimme-website 06-09-2012 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 18995443)
Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.

Groove on

looky_lou 06-09-2012 01:59 AM

Get off your high horse.

Sure you had a right to asks the questions and post your findings. But the way you have projected yourself and your attitude are a real negative. You have done nothing with this issue to gain any respect for your professional reputation.

With that said, I know that I would never hire you to do anything now.

Say hi to Biggy for me and please ask him when I might get paid from Melissa Midwest.

lucas131 06-09-2012 02:03 AM

oh man ... hope you have all your software bought, photoshop and other, all original?

Don Imus 06-09-2012 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by looky_lou (Post 18995451)

Say hi to Biggy for me and please ask him when I might get paid from Melissa Midwest.

As the OP states in the other thread.

'Ill fight for anyone whose trying to earn an honest living. And I will equaly challenge those that choose to earn their money off the backs of other peoples hard work.'

Should probably resign from her job!

HomeFry 06-09-2012 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 18995454)
oh man ... hope you have all your software bought, photoshop and other, all original?

She keeps dodging that question. My guess is "No".

She simply doesn't "Get It". It doesn't matter what these theme developers / owners say in emails to her. Only parts of their themes are legally protected at best, and I would bet that 95% of them don't even understand the law. So for her to keep on this tirade of abuse is simply ridiculous. We can't assume that these companies she is quoting even understand the law, so why in the fuck is she trying to understand it through them?

If she's so butt-hurt about Fris and really wants to understand, why doesn't she go pay an attorney to teach her exactly what is right and wrong with the GPL license and whether Fris is in the wrong or not, and then go get a second opinion.

Disseminating bad information is not in the public interest. Just because she has a source does not make that information good.

Go educate yourself, you fat hog, or shut the fuck up already. You have no clue what you are going on about and you keep making yourself look dumber and dumber every time you try to post about it.

HomeFry 06-09-2012 02:56 AM

I mean seriously, what she did here by asking the theme owners about GPL & Licensing is like going to a retard hospital and asking the retard about his condition, then going to a forum full of retards and conveying the condition verbatim.

Stupid. Go ask an expert.

acrylix 06-09-2012 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 18995435)
There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.

http://potomoto.com/bhc/shitmotivation.jpg

Tofu 06-09-2012 03:53 AM

:party-smi

ottopottomouse 06-09-2012 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 18995435)
Quote:

Hi Anna,

I can tell you that this is not true. We offer an affiliate program
with profit sharing for customers generated through affiliate links
but I do not believe that this is something we have done. We rely on
our customers to continue working on theme development and pirates
like this hurt us a lot.

Ryan - deluxethemes

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Anna GW <[email protected]> wrote:
> He is saying he has a dev licence/ GPL licence and he can do what he wants..
> including reselling/redistrubution.

Why do you need to email them questions?
Quote:

Originally Posted by http://deluxethemes.com/terms-and-conditions/
1. Theme Licensing & Usage

All our WordPress themes are licensed under the GNU general public license.

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney
Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money? (#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney)

Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.)
Does the GPL allow me to charge a fee for downloading the program from my site?

Yes. You can charge any fee you wish for distributing a copy of the program. If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide ?equivalent access? to download the source?therefore, the fee to download source may not be greater than the fee to download the binary.
Does the GPL allow me to require that anyone who receives the software must pay me a fee and/or notify me? (#DoesTheGPLAllowRequireFee)

No. In fact, a requirement like that would make the program non-free. If people have to pay when they get a copy of a program, or if they have to notify anyone in particular, then the program is not free. See the definition of free software.

The GPL is a free software license, and therefore it permits people to use and even redistribute the software without being required to pay anyone a fee for doing so.
If I distribute GPL'd software for a fee, am I required to also make it available to the public without a charge? (#DoesTheGPLRequireAvailabilityToPublic)

No. However, if someone pays your fee and gets a copy, the GPL gives them the freedom to release it to the public, with or without a fee. For example, someone could pay your fee, and then put her copy on a web site for the general public.


anexsia 06-09-2012 04:07 AM

Talk about backfire....fris is a good dude and I can't even count all the times that he has helped out many GFY users for FREE. Just the other week he developed his own wordpress link theme and let everyone here download it for FREE. Have a wordpress question? Hit up fris and he'll always give you advice. Looking for suggestions on good wordpress themes to use? Fris will always post some to help you out.

CurrentlySober 06-09-2012 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrylix (Post 18995528)

Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?

Harmon 06-09-2012 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18995541)
Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

u-Bob 06-09-2012 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 18995435)
It was in the public interest.

Wait, what? The "public interest"? Whenever I hear that, it immediately sets off a few alarm bells. Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as the "public interest". There is only the interest of each individual human being. I don't know you, but usually when people claim to have the public interest at heart, they actually have other intentions.

First you attack Fris. Then you say you're not attacking him. Then you basically apologize. And then you start a new thread pretending to be apologizing, but you're actually attacking him again...

Like I said: I don't know you. But the way you've been handling this whole mess doesn't reflect well on you.

Nasty 06-09-2012 05:03 AM

And The Asshole of the Year Award Goes To ... :321GFY

candyflip 06-09-2012 05:05 AM

You are by far the biggest cunt to grace the pages of GFY.

I'm sure you're proud of that too.

Freaky_Akula 06-09-2012 05:05 AM

http://i-got-bored.weebly.com/upload...30/9803591.jpg

Quagmire 06-09-2012 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 18995435)
There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.

The reason it isn't cleared up in your mind is because you didn't investigate anything relating to what GPL is and how it works. An investigation would involve doing more than going to people offering something and asking them their opinion.

You didn't investigate anything. You went on a witch-hunt, plain and simple. :2 cents:

geedub 06-09-2012 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18995541)
Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?

Post of the year.

u-Bob 06-09-2012 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 18995594)
The reason it isn't cleared up in your mind is because you didn't investigate anything relating to what GPL is and how it works. An investigation would involve doing more than going to people offering something and asking them their opinion.

Even if the GPL didn't apply, there's still the issue of the developer licenses. In that case he would still have had the right to sell "installations of the (majority(?) of the) themes/plugins" even if he didn't have the right to resell the scripts themselves.

Slew_ 06-09-2012 05:39 AM

Geeeezus.. Never had a problem with sir fris...

CaptainHowdy 06-09-2012 05:44 AM

Of men, dumb women, and death ...

MrCain 06-09-2012 05:51 AM

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i45/5/2/21...84d01fabca.jpg

Lace 06-09-2012 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 18995443)
Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.

+1.

You have not only made a fool of yourself, but if in fact you do work for FUC and Biggy, you've made them look like idiots for hiring such an idiotic person who would rather spend time creating lies and trying to tarnish the reputations of others than actually being productive. :disgust

candyflip 06-09-2012 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18995600)
Even if the GPL didn't apply, there's still the issue of the developer licenses. In that case he would still have had the right to sell "installations of the (majority(?) of the) themes/plugins" even if he didn't have the right to resell the scripts themselves.

Exactly. He is/was good on two fronts.

This chick had no other intention than to cause trouble. She knew exactly what the fuck she was doing, but also knows she can play the innocent, cute chick and most of the morons here will look the other way.

Fuck that.

KingNigel 06-09-2012 06:01 AM

Fris has always been good to me.

He is one of the few helpful people on gfy.

CyberHustler 06-09-2012 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 18995435)
As can be seen in a selection of replies i recived this morning.


But what I will do is this. I was contacted by your "money rinser".. and he has implored me to keep his name out of this. I will honour his request.

Ive also been asked to complete one of your unfinished projects by a client of yours.
I've taken a look and its a 4 hour job...It looks like 1 hour has been spent so far.
Your quote $450.. My estimate is $250... but im prolly gonna do it for free.. Lets call it goodwill and you've earnt an easy $450.

Peace. I hope you can get back to work soon. xxx

This whole part right here, IMHO, proves you weren't doing anything other than looking out for YOUR OWN interests this whole time... you fucked up.

candyflip 06-09-2012 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18995636)
This whole part right here, IMHO, proves you weren't doing anything other than looking out for YOUR OWN interests this whole time... you fucked up.

BINGO. She's just playing dumb. She knew exactly what she was doing and what she was up to.

She insinuated that he was selling "warez" right from the get go.

candyflip 06-09-2012 06:13 AM

And...the company she's quoting in the first post of this thread releases their shit under the general GNU license. Which again gives fris the rights to do what he did.

acrylix 06-09-2012 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18995541)
Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-07...8749904649.jpg

Jakez 06-09-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18995647)
BINGO. She's just playing dumb. She knew exactly what she was doing and what she was up to.

She insinuated that he was selling "warez" right from the get go.

Ban the cunt.

kazbalah 06-09-2012 06:50 AM

lol u guys got too much free time..

Horny Joe 06-09-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18995537)
Talk about backfire....fris is a good dude and I can't even count all the times that he has helped out many GFY users for FREE. Just the other week he developed his own wordpress link theme and let everyone here download it for FREE. Have a wordpress question? Hit up fris and he'll always give you advice. Looking for suggestions on good wordpress themes to use? Fris will always post some to help you out.

QFTT!

Will there be an GFY Awards 2012? I guess Anna is up for the Backfiring Smartass Award.

Failed 06-09-2012 07:06 AM

A person interested in honesty and fighting for public interest, that works for FuckYouCash :1orglaugh And, an apology thread with no apology :1orglaugh

Thanks for the laughs :1orglaugh

Fris, the man who responds to emails, questions, offers free help, and even a free theme he developed comes out clean, as he should. And you, well the picture above is fitting.

freecartoonporn 06-09-2012 07:11 AM

i vote ban.
you are such a cunt.

globofun 06-09-2012 07:33 AM

http://thirtysomethingsingledotcom.f...pg?w=490&h=317

L-Pink 06-09-2012 07:36 AM

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9...wer1xlarge.jpg

Freaky_Akula 06-09-2012 07:38 AM

I vote BAN!

raymor 06-09-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 18995443)
Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.

+1

I'm going to go ask FRIS if he can help with line feeds being inserted into posts now.

raymor 06-09-2012 07:52 AM

Lesson from this - when someone is attacking you, sometimes it's best to shut up and let them talk themselves into an asshole award, rather than engaging them.

candyflip 06-09-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18995786)
Lesson from this - when someone is attacking you, sometimes it's best to shut up and let them talk themselves into an asshole award, rather than engaging them.

This all did eventually blow up in her face. That's what happens when you try to stir up shit and have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

Coup 06-09-2012 07:54 AM

snitches get stitches

B.Barnato 06-09-2012 07:58 AM

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...55/138/ab1.jpg

globofun 06-09-2012 08:03 AM

Wow! Can we do some biz?

I have an attraction to chicks that are nuts..........

Inter-Sex 06-09-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18995541)
Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?

That's a whole different response as that I did expect from you? :1orglaugh
You're ok mate ? :winkwink:

CaptainHowdy 06-09-2012 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18995611)
Of children, dumb women, and death ...

Fixed that for me ...

TheSquealer 06-09-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 18995435)
There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.

As can be seen in a selection of replies i recived this morning.


But what I will do is this. I was contacted by your "money rinser".. and he has implored me to keep his name out of this. I will honour his request.

Ive also been asked to complete one of your unfinished projects by a client of yours.
I've taken a look and its a 4 hour job...It looks like 1 hour has been spent so far.
Your quote $450.. My estimate is $250... but im prolly gonna do it for free.. Lets call it goodwill and you've earnt an easy $450.

http://conspiracyofgenius.files.word...per-retard.jpg

Sly 06-09-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18995569)
Wait, what? The "public interest"? Whenever I hear that, it immediately sets off a few alarm bells. Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as the "public interest". There is only the interest of each individual human being. I don't know you, but usually when people claim to have the public interest at heart, they actually have other intentions.

First you attack Fris. Then you say you're not attacking him. Then you basically apologize. And then you start a new thread pretending to be apologizing, but you're actually attacking him again...

Like I said: I don't know you. But the way you've been handling this whole mess doesn't reflect well on you.

No action takes place without self-interest in mind. Even if the action highly benefits another.

u-Bob 06-09-2012 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18995814)
No action takes place without self-interest in mind. Even if the action highly benefits another.

very true.


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