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sid 06-03-2012 07:39 PM

Host ignoring DMCAs - whats the next step...
 
If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?

cosis 06-03-2012 08:03 PM

Sue them

AAB 06-03-2012 08:08 PM

Sometimes when site is run by Russians (or any of former Soviet states) and hosted in a similar country, you won't even hear back from anyone let alone have the site taken down. I found the next best thing to do was to notify Google to at least have their pages removed from the rank. Though one big time thief who steals my content a lot had at least a 100 pages unlisted from Google yet they still rank them high for everything. Hundreds of take down notices and it did not hurt their overall ranking one bit.

baddog 06-03-2012 08:18 PM

Registrar?

Konda 06-03-2012 08:23 PM

If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

Major (Tom) 06-03-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid (Post 18984692)
If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?

try sending it in russian.
send to upstream. then get an attornery
ds

AllAboutCams 06-03-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18984741)
If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

is leaseweb any good

CyberHustler 06-03-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid (Post 18984692)
If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?

Hire a hitman

Due 06-03-2012 10:10 PM

Report it to the major backbone providers. They can black-hole the IPs

Even if it's not their initial responsibility they have to review it each time, and that cost them money. If you annoy them enough they will take some actions :2 cents:

DWB 06-03-2012 11:35 PM

If it's a USA host, get a lawyer and sue the piss out of them.

Spunky 06-03-2012 11:47 PM

Send Bubba over to talk to them

BNMedia 06-04-2012 02:50 AM

Block Russia from your sites. I did and have seen a huge drop in our content being shared ever since!

pornguy 06-04-2012 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18984738)
Registrar?

Now thats funny.


Try the upstream provider for the host.

u-Bob 06-04-2012 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 18984825)
send to upstream.

that .

chaze 06-04-2012 06:28 AM

What host? Most will if you can prove the content is yours and is not allowed to be shared.

Brad Mitchell 06-04-2012 07:07 AM

What is the site or web host?

Brad

Django 06-04-2012 07:21 AM

ask google to remove the indexed page
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/removals

ravo 06-04-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18984741)
If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

+1 Perfect Response. Remember that DMCA only applies in the US. If the host is outside the US, use the corresponding rules for takedowns in that country.

Barefootsies 06-04-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo (Post 18985334)
+1 Perfect Response. Remember that DMCA only applies in the US. If the host is outside the US, use the corresponding rules for takedowns in that country.

Correct.

I recall there is a law that either the EU, or some of the countries in the EU follow that is similar to DMCA over there. The name escapes me at the moment. But if you have a lawyer involved, I am sure they can find it easily enough. Good luck chief.

sid 06-04-2012 09:57 AM

Host is http://www.altushost.com/

hetzner.de which is the upstream provider just saying
they do not host the site so they are not responsible

chaze 06-04-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid (Post 18985612)
Host is http://www.altushost.com/

hetzner.de which is the upstream provider just saying
they do not host the site so they are not responsible

Yep, they have almost no copyright laws there. Sorry

sid 06-04-2012 04:06 PM

Thanks for all the info.....I will see what I can work out.....

Major (Tom) 06-04-2012 11:27 PM

anyone have a form for takedown directions for leaseweb?
ds

Deej 06-04-2012 11:34 PM

What host...

sid 06-05-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Django (Post 18985333)
ask google to remove the indexed page
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/removals

Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?

xp-ViT 06-05-2012 02:34 PM

tell us the target site, We probably can help you abusing.

Brad Mitchell 06-05-2012 03:46 PM

As far as my research digs up it is a shit bag host. What is the web site with the infringing content?

Brad

TheSwed 06-07-2012 07:37 AM

you always try the processing company http://www.2checkout.com

Django 06-07-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid (Post 18987949)
Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?

No, I don't
here a couple of tools
http://support.google.com/bin/static...905&page=ts.cs
http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/

TheSwed 06-07-2012 08:03 AM

You can always...should it be :)

cgiGeek 06-07-2012 08:21 AM

ping domain, search for ip here http://whois.arin.net/ui
resend DMCA to all listed, check daily

ajrocks 06-07-2012 09:56 AM

go after the domain.

kristin 06-07-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sid (Post 18987949)
Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?

Just the URLs with content. Google Lady Gaga Download and then scroll to the bottom and you'll see what happens with the Google takedowns.


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