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Zimmerman was concerned about beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white officer
There goes you race card kids. Sorry.
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No big deal, it never had to have a racial element anyway. The fact that he said he was following him because he matched a description of supposed burglars covers it pretty well.
There is however recent news of Zimmerman harassing a co worker with racist remarks as well. He's probably somewhere in the middle on the issue. http://www.inquisitr.com/239453/geor...acist-remarks/ But I still think it's more likely that he just over reacted, or reacted in a way he thought was needed but it turned out it wasn't needed at all. He sure didnt' appear to be near death anyway. |
I spent 4 days recently in the hospital in Orlando and got a bunch of information, as this was pretty much all the main coverage on the news.
Here's another bit of info for you. Both he and his wife were mentors for young black youth. When the company they volunteered with closed up shop, they both continued mentoring the kids they had been mentoring plus a few others. Anyone playing the race card is ignorant. |
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And theres also this person who says Zimmerman had serious anger issues, describing him as a Jekyl and Hyde type of personality.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...s-violent-past I'm sure there's also some grandma's out there who knows him as a sweet boy. That's how it goes. People drag up shit when you're in the news. |
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There is no doubt that some persons are pulling the race card in this situation, but anyone with a smidgen of common sense can see that something was amiss with how things were handled.
The issue for me was how the police department initially decided not to pursue an investigation in a scenario where an unarmed teen was shot by a neighborhood watch captain, especially when the very defense of SYG that the shooter claimed also could apply to the victim. Completely removing accountability from the shooter for his actions when those very actions have led to a dead teen is unfair and highly questionable. It is quite logical and rational to gather all relevant evidence and to perform due diligence to ensure that justice is served on behalf of both the victim and the shooter. |
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According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence ? a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. http://rollingout.com/culture/george...losed-arrests/ this did confuse me :helpme "I'd like to know what action the commission is taking in order to repeal Mr. Tooley's pension," Zimmerman said to the commission. "I'm not asking you to repeal his pension; I believe he's already forfeited his pension by his illegal cover-up in corruption in what happened in his department." :Oh crap |
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This is one bit of trivia I would expect a black man to be quite familiar with. :winkwink: |
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alex :moon |
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OP has ' racist ' pretty much cornered ..... :1orglaugh
Now, let's askj ourselves one single simple question : ' if Trayvon would have been white , would it have gone down the same way ' ? ( PS: naturally, someone called Trayvon cannot be white, but that is beside the point ... ) |
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If you read the whole article it sounds more like Zimmerman is angry with the cops as a whole and not just this one incident. He goes on to explain how he was disgusted when he went on a ride along and the cop supposedly showed him his favorite place to hide and take a nap as well as explaining to him that he didn't carry a rifle with him because anything that would require him to use it would take a lot of paper work so he stays away from those things. He talks about the cops taking multiple lunches and also attending parties while on duty.
It looks like Zimmerman had more of an axe to grind than just this one case. But that doesn't make nearly as good a headline. |
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Finally, the witness stated he had had enough. According to RawStory, he filed a report with HR, but Zimmerman was ?so persuasive and ingenuous in his testimony to the committee that he fooled not only the committee, but the witness said that [he] even began to doubt himself.? |
The race issue ain't with the Zim, the race issue is with a lot of his (and Trayvon's) blind supporters.
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I personally can't defend that position. Being followed by some dude at night does not imho give me the right to kill them in self-defence, specially if the person has not shown a weapon or cornered me and demonstrated that they intend to do me harm. Quote:
If he hadn't gone back to confront Zimmerman and hadn't beaten him up he most likely wouldn't have gotten shot. There's another thing nobody seems to want to mention. The fact that Zimmerman didn't have his gun out points to Treyvon attacking Zimmerman suddenly, not giving him the time to pull it out and try to make Treyvon stand down. |
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We don't. What we know for sure is that when Zimmerman was on the phone with the police Treyvon ran from the scene. Zimmerman pursued him then when the dispatch person told him that he didn't need to do that he appeared to stop. He said he was going to go meet the police at an agreed upon location. At some point after he hung up with dispatch he and Treyvon ended up in a confrontation. A fight broke out. Zimmerman appeared to be getting his ass kicked at he shot Treyvon. How that confrontation came about nobody seems to know. Who followed who? Treyvon's girlfriend who apparently was on the phone with him just before the fight broke out says that Zimmerman chased Treyvon down and confronted him. That sounds a whole lot more plausible than the guy who was running from the scene changing his mind and going back to confront the guy who was looking at him. |
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You do know what the population percentages are in the USA right? In case you don't : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra..._United_States |
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Also, getting one's ass kicked when one is directly responsible for the confrontation taking place does not fall in line with self-defense. The accountability factor falls squarely on the living participant of the confrontation. |
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But without proof that's all it is, speculation. You can't prove that Treyvon didn't go back to confront Zimmerman, pissed off at having gotten scared while talking to his girl. If Treyvon was so scared, why didn't he call the police? He had a cell phone. Why didn't he run all the way home? In the end Zimmerman's version of events is the one that will stand, and the fact that Treyvon was beating him up backs up his claim of self-defence. |
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In the end the jury will decide. As you said, without proof it is all speculation and we both can only speculate. |
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Unarmed does not mean not life-threatening. People get beaten up to death all the time. |
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Didn't Martins parents create a flock of blind ollowers by releasing an old photo of Trayvon? If I die tomorrow my Mom isn't going to use a photo of me from when I was 23. I don't look like that anymore. |
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This is why it all comes to down to exactly what happened. If Zimmerman pursued and confronted Treyvon and that led to the fight, Zimmerman might have a hard time defending himself. If Treyvon sought out Zimmerman and attacked him it is a different story. |
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Don't forget, No_limit_Nigga went off on schoolbus driver before. I doubt the driver was profiling or following little No_limit_nig. |
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That is my point. Nobody knows how this all went down, but everyone is speculating. As for going off. Zimmerman had a restraining order against him from an Ex (although it was later dropped) and he had been arrested for resisting arrest and battery against a cop. It sounds like neither one of these guys were angels. |
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