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Scott McD 05-06-2012 09:02 AM

Are all car salesmen cunts ??
 
Seriously, if they'd stop with all the bullshit and actually let you look around for yourself first, then maybe properly assist you, rather than feeding you all the usual lies, you'd maybe consider giving them the sale.

As it is, i just spent another afternoon listening to the same assholes saying the same shit.

Must be part of the job description. "Are you a cunt ?? Yes!" Congrat's you have the job!!

L-Pink 05-06-2012 09:06 AM

Anyone that would sell an identical product at different prices to the public is a cunt. Yes.

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Brent 3dSexCash 05-06-2012 09:22 AM

"What's it going to take to get you in this car today?"

I was asked once....

To which I replied, "Stop fucking talking to me and find me a salesman that isn't a cunt"

BAKO 05-06-2012 09:30 AM

U have to know how to talk to a car salesman :)

ErectMedia 05-06-2012 09:31 AM

Last 2 cars I bought I must have got up and walked away 2-3 times. I bluffed a little about dealer down the road being at a certain price, had them throw on a few k in accessories as well, very happy with last 2 new car prices I paid but got them by being a complete prick.

Last new one 1 1/2 years old and when I look up blue book cars worth a few more K than I paid and I put 0 down kinda confirming I robbed them as the first payments are generally just killing off interest, last time I went to the dealer my sales guy said "not this guy" so he still remembers me.

With so much info online now pretty easy to have price comparisons/quotes on hand from multiple dealers when ya walk in and getting up once or twice doesn't hurt as that usually gets shit thrown in. Run a search and receive multiple quotes, grab the 3 lowest call them up and say no bullshit buying today give me your best price and tell them when you hang up your calling the other 2 dealers. You will have all 3 calling you to see if anyone beat their price so basically you're letting them bid against each other.

Scott McD 05-06-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 18932531)
"What's it going to take to get you in this car today?"

Funnily enough i heard that exact line twice today!

They didn't look very amused when i gave my answer... :1orglaugh

shake 05-06-2012 09:43 AM

Last car I bought new I happened to talk to one of the managers who of course also sells cars. It worked out really well, because most of the time he had better things to do and just gave me the keys, and let me take it as long as I wanted over several weeks. He'd answer questions when I had them, but otherwise left me alone. In the future I'll look for a manger when looking at cars - they have better things to do than bug you too much. Made it much nicer buying a car!

d-null 05-06-2012 09:51 AM

that "c" word you used is extremely harsh and vulgar :2 cents:

we get that you don't like the car salesman, but your choice of that word is pretty inappropriate, you could have said "all all car salesmen assholes?" or "are all car salesman dicks?"

maybe if it was a female that really badly is fucking you around that word would make sense in this kind of situation

Supz 05-06-2012 09:57 AM

you do realize you sell porn on the internet right?

HandballJim 05-06-2012 09:58 AM

The car salesman is the lowest guy at the dealership, the finance guy is the real cunt, the car salesman gives you the best deal...then pushes you to the finance guy where you end up paying more and getting fucked over.

Scott McD 05-06-2012 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 18932556)
you do realize you sell porn on the internet right?

Umm, which means ??

d-null 05-06-2012 10:05 AM

calling men "cunts" is fucked up on it's own, regardless of whether the word is appropriately vulgar or not :2 cents:

Scott McD 05-06-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18932563)
calling men "cunts" is fucked up on it's own, regardless of whether the word is appropriately vulgar or not :2 cents:

I suggest you go outside and get some fresh air... :2 cents:

tony286 05-06-2012 10:42 AM

I worked in dealerships,that all comes from up top. Before we bought our last car. We walked out of two places because they were pulling that shit. The last place we went a guy walked up introduced himself. He said look around, you need anything im at that desk. I bought a car from him.

MrBottomTooth 05-06-2012 10:52 AM

Depends on the dealer. Probably in larger dealerships most of them will be cunts.

I know one that is basically a one-man show and he just buys vehicles wholesale at the Toronto auto auction and tries to make a living by marking them up as little as possible.

I don't think he makes much more than $2000 per vehicle at best and if they sit for a while he has to drop his price to get rid of them. So if you walk in and ask him for his best price he's basically already got his best price posted on the car. He can't sell them at a loss.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-06-2012 10:59 AM

http://stblogs.automotive.com/files/...ny-623x362.jpg

Not much different than politicians...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6TTwlAeYY6...ar%2Bsales.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bstXBEDnG9...r+salesman.jpg

ADG

Grapesoda 05-06-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18932500)
Seriously, if they'd stop with all the bullshit and actually let you look around for yourself first, then maybe properly assist you, rather than feeding you all the usual lies, you'd maybe consider giving them the sale.

As it is, i just spent another afternoon listening to the same assholes saying the same shit.

Must be part of the job description. "Are you a cunt ?? Yes!" Congrat's you have the job!!

here's what I said: I work for myself, so if I'm at a deal getting jerked off by a salesman I'm loosing money. what I want is a really nice car with a great sound sytem for 'x' amount... what do you have?

the guy took me right to the car I wanted...

Grapesoda 05-06-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shake (Post 18932546)
Last car I bought new I happened to talk to one of the managers who of course also sells cars. It worked out really well, because most of the time he had better things to do and just gave me the keys, and let me take it as long as I wanted over several weeks. He'd answer questions when I had them, but otherwise left me alone. In the future I'll look for a manger when looking at cars - they have better things to do than bug you too much. Made it much nicer buying a car!

same here with my first vette... the guy pulled all the sales records and showed me what the other guys were paying so I would see what I was getting, BTW most guys that buy vette just walk in and say "I'll take the blue one" and don't really fuck around with sales guys

Ron Bennett 05-06-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 18932557)
The car salesman is the lowest guy at the dealership, the finance guy is the real cunt, the car salesman gives you the best deal...then pushes you to the finance guy where you end up paying more and getting fucked over.

Yep. Many car salespeople are desperate / willing to give a lot on price when pushed to get a sale...

That's where the "Business Manager" / "Finance Officer" / "Sales Manager" / etc come in to protect the profit margins. Those are the people to really watch - they can add tons of extra cost while working their magic fooling the buyer in thinking they got a great deal.

When ever I buy cars, I ultimately negotiate to the "Drive Away Price" - let the dealership figure out the taxes, delivery, doc fees, etc ... sometimes comedy ensues watching numerous people working desperately to calculate that final number, since it can get tricky when calculating in some things, such as sales tax.

2intense 05-06-2012 11:17 AM

:thumbsup:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 18932556)
you do realize you sell porn on the internet right?


ottopottomouse 05-06-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18932552)
that "c" word you used is extremely harsh and vulgar :2 cents:

not in this country it isn't :)

dgraves 05-06-2012 11:38 AM

Most are douche bags.

Don't you just love the up-sells like the "special" paint protection. They tried to sell me the "Desert UV Protection" package that was basically Pep Boys wax. I told them I didn't want it and they said it was already applied. I told them to find me a vehicle that didn't have it. "OK, we'll just waive that upgrade". Gee, thanks!

It's amazing that they can charge $150 for Turtle Wax.

Scott McD 05-06-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18932678)
not in this country it isn't :)

I never thought i'd have to worry about using a swear word on GFY... :1orglaugh

selena 05-06-2012 12:00 PM

:warning:warning

Confessions of a Car Salesman

SilentKnight 05-06-2012 12:28 PM

I lodged a formal complaint with Consumer & Corporate Affairs after a local car dealer pulled a 'bait-and-switch' stunt with my wife and I.

Yep, there are a lot of car salesmen out there that really deserve the cunt badge.

Rochard 05-06-2012 12:37 PM

One time in Phoenix we had this young Hispanic kid who - I kid you not - was just promoted out of the detail department. I went in to buy a new SUV for my wife, but also saw a new Mustang I liked. We ended up paying cash for both. Kid was cool as hell really.

I also had a friend of mine who worked at a Ford dealer down in San Diego. I was big into Mustangs then, Cobras and what not, and we took a Saleen out for test drive. He's like "Okay, don't go above seventy here because the cops are all over" and seconds later I'm doing 130 while he was crapping in his pants.

Sigh. Good times.

georgeyw 05-06-2012 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18932563)
calling men "cunts" is fucked up on it's own, regardless of whether the word is appropriately vulgar or not :2 cents:

Take two..... it is four letters. Get over yourself you stupid cunt.

d-null 05-06-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18932790)
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Take two..... it is four letters. Get over yourself you stupid cunt.

fuckers with their casual use of brit/aussiespeak on an international forum :helpme

kane 05-06-2012 01:16 PM

Many years ago I worked for a company that put values on total loss cars for insurance companies. This meant finding market values of cars so I dealt with a lot of car salesmen and it seems like about 90% of them are cuts.

A friend of mine once bought a truck and he negotiated heavily with them. He even walked away and told them to call him if they decided to accept his offer. When he got home there was a message on the machine waiting for him. He goes back to buy the truck and as he was about to sign the contract he says, "I think my signature is worth $100 don't you?" They asked what he meant and he told them he was only going to sign if they gave him $100 cash so he could take his girlfriend out to dinner and movie in his new truck. They gave him the money and the sales manager said to him, "I don't know if I should hate you or offer you a job." He replied, "I'm not sure if I should be offended by that or not."

bronco67 05-06-2012 01:21 PM

Are they even really necessary? What exactly is a car salesman going to do except annoy you when you're tying to look at cars? They're the equivalent of gas pumpers. Irrelevant and obsolete.

CurrentlySober 05-06-2012 01:28 PM

Funnily enough, I bought my new car last month, and I found the exact opposite!

They left me alone, let me test drive, asked if I had any questions, then went out of their way to be helpful

I was amazed TBH...

nico-t 05-06-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18932563)
calling men "cunts" is fucked up on it's own, regardless of whether the word is appropriately vulgar or not :2 cents:

educate yourself, it is a very vulgar term in the US but not that much where he lives.

DatePoster 05-06-2012 01:51 PM

My most recent car salesman never even attempted to sell me the car. I hit the lot told him what car I wanted, he helped me get financed, and sent me home made chocolate chip cookies in the mail with a thank you card! :thumbsup

Herb Kornfield 05-06-2012 02:09 PM

I researched online the cars I was buying, got my pricing models together and generally when I walked into a dealership knew the car I was looking for and what price point + a general idea of my monthly payment I would do. All before I rolled into a dealership.

At the dealership my line after the general pleasantries was: I am buying a car today and I have 2 hours to do this. If you need a manager or whatever else, let's get them now to talk biz. If I cant roll out of here in 2 hours ... then Thank you and I am off to the dealer ( insert name here ) that is next on my list. Being a sales professional I want to respect both of our time and not waste time.

This was my mode of ops until 2009 ... worked every time as some reps would give the "manager is on lunch" .. wrapped on other deals, etc. Screw that, I dont want to make this an all day experience. It is a car, not the birth of a child.

2009 and onwards: I buy only BMWs ... Their reps so far here in PA and NJ are just on their game everytime when it comes to getting things done. Same guy has sold me three Bimmers so far and when #4 comes into the picture in a year - Pete will have the biz.

kane 05-06-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield (Post 18932862)
I researched online the cars I was buying, got my pricing models together and generally when I walked into a dealership knew the car I was looking for and what price point + a general idea of my monthly payment I would do. All before I rolled into a dealership.

At the dealership my line after the general pleasantries was: I am buying a car today and I have 2 hours to do this. If you need a manager or whatever else, let's get them now to talk biz. If I cant roll out of here in 2 hours ... then Thank you and I am off to the dealer ( insert name here ) that is next on my list. Being a sales professional I want to respect both of our time and not waste time.

This was my mode of ops until 2009 ... worked every time as some reps would give the "manager is on lunch" .. wrapped on other deals, etc. Screw that, I dont want to make this an all day experience. It is a car, not the birth of a child.

2009 and onwards: I buy only BMWs ... Their reps so far here in PA and NJ are just on their game everytime when it comes to getting things done. Same guy has sold me three Bimmers so far and when #4 comes into the picture in a year - Pete will have the biz.

That is the way to do it. Go in, tell them what you want, what you want to pay and how much time you have and put them to work. If you have the means to get a loan from a bank so you can go in with a check from the bank or you can pay cash for the car (this only works if it is a new car) you ask to talk to the fleet manager. Tell them what you want and ask for the cash price. They deal with big companies on leases an cash buys so they don't mess around and will get you a good deal and be fast in getting it all done.

Rochard 05-06-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18932879)
That is the way to do it. Go in, tell them what you want, what you want to pay and how much time you have and put them to work. If you have the means to get a loan from a bank so you can go in with a check from the bank or you can pay cash for the car (this only works if it is a new car) you ask to talk to the fleet manager. Tell them what you want and ask for the cash price. They deal with big companies on leases an cash buys so they don't mess around and will get you a good deal and be fast in getting it all done.

I've done this and when they dick with me, I walk out. "Here's my card, you have my number". With my last purchase, I just told him I'd go buy something else and he chased me out to the parking lot. Car before that they called me before I got home.

Donny 05-06-2012 07:06 PM

This guy might change your opinions a little about car salesmen. It's usually not the salesman, but the boss who pressures him into doing what he does:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/co...-salesman.html

Donny 05-06-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena (Post 18932723)

You beat me to it.

AllAboutCams 05-06-2012 07:13 PM

The last one i went to have a look at wouldn't let me drive the car

RyanEagle 05-06-2012 07:27 PM

You have to kinda be a dick to pull the stunts they have to pull to sell cars. I found a private broker I use that's transparent with his margins and I let him keep almost 100% of what he is asking every time I buy.

The Heron 05-06-2012 07:43 PM

I had a fucking salesmen actually use the line 'we've got another customer really interested in your car, better come in and buy it quick' I told him I don't give a shit and blocked his number, will never go to that dealership again.

Scott McD 05-07-2012 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 18933186)
I had a fucking salesmen actually use the line 'we've got another customer really interested in your car, better come in and buy it quick' I told him I don't give a shit and blocked his number, will never go to that dealership again.

I never give any of them my number. I ask them for their card, and tell them if I need them, i'll be the one who makes the call...

2MuchMark 05-07-2012 05:28 AM

The best car salesman are the ones you welcome you to the shop, then invite you to ask them your questions when you're ready.

ottopottomouse 05-07-2012 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Heron (Post 18933186)
I had a fucking salesmen actually use the line 'we've got another customer really interested in your car, better come in and buy it quick' I told him I don't give a shit and blocked his number, will never go to that dealership again.

I had one say that to me while I was in there deciding whether to buy it or not. Just said 'fine, they can have it' and walked out. Seeing him go white and realise he'd just cost himself a sale was entertaining but if they can't be honest before you've even bought it what will they be like if there's any problems after sale.

Wagerboy 05-07-2012 06:40 AM

The funny thing is that about 80% of car salesmen make more then 99% of people in here posting. My top guy made a little over 300k last yr, bottom guy made 120k. PLus a car, health ins, 401k, 4 weeks paid vacation, etc. Its not for everyone.

Heres a lil secret for all you ballers. The nicer you are to the salesman, the nicer they are to you. Go in with a tough guy attitude, your getting raped. Period. They are just trying to make money as is everyone selling porn as well.

jimmy-3-way 05-07-2012 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18932500)
Seriously, if they'd stop with all the bullshit and actually let you look around for yourself first, then maybe properly assist you, rather than feeding you all the usual lies, you'd maybe consider giving them the sale.

As it is, i just spent another afternoon listening to the same assholes saying the same shit.

Must be part of the job description. "Are you a cunt ?? Yes!" Congrat's you have the job!!

Test drove an M3 recently...6 speed stick.

The salesman kept telling me the M button on the console "raised the shift points."

Scott McD 05-07-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18932803)
fuckers with their casual use of brit/aussiespeak on an international forum :helpme

Cunts who get offended by a swear word on a forum called Go Fuck Yourself!

PR_Glen 05-07-2012 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18932559)
Umm, which means ??

which means that WE ARE SALESMEN TOO!

fuck.. hehe

Ross 05-07-2012 06:59 AM

I just bought a new car last week, I had done my homework on all the models I was interested in and when I went to the dealership, there wasn't anything they could tell me I didn't know. You'd be surprised how well this worked btw. I straight up told them I was looking at 3 cars and I would choose the car that gave me the best bang for my bucks. In the end the car I got, the salesman was pretty ok with me, wasn't too demanding, he knew I knew about every feature on the car and all about the deal so there was nothing he could say or do.

bns666 05-07-2012 07:34 AM

shortly: yes.


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